Talk:St Aloysius' College, Glasgow

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good start, suggest an info box and more refs, welcome. Nearly a startVictuallers 17:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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Deponent verb in the school motto

Latin 'nascor' is a deponent verb, so 'natus sum' to my mind means 'I was born' due to its adherence to passive conjugations. Thus I suggest removing the alternative erroneous translation 'I am born'. - OldAloysian2007, 21.01.2011

    Done. 06.02.2011  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.214.137 (talk) 10:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC) 

I spent 5 years studying Latin to Higher Paper III level and the consistent message from the teachers was there were two versions. OA1984 , 16/2/2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by OA1984 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Irrelevancies

Using articles about other schools as guidelines and templates, I notice many things on this article are irrelevant (and not keeping with the tone of wikipedia - this is no place for in jokes). There is no reason to have the following categories on the page: 1.1 Current Senior School staff; 1.2 Former Senior School Staff; 1.3 Current Junior School Staff; 1.4 Former Junior School Staff; 2 Current School Captains; and 3 Current Vice Captains. For this reason, I have edited out these things, as they are, completely irrelevant. The current structure or the article has clearly been done by a school child, and if you are attempting to edit this wikipedia article, please follow these examples instead: [1], [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.0.13 (talk) 22:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Notable Staff

In what sense are any of these people genuinely "notable"? The page really doesn't need a list of who teaches there unless they are of interest in their own right. Flapdragon 13:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

This is not a place for in jokes

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. I know any person can edit its content, but some people are abusing that and filling this page with their idiotic in jokes, irrelevancies, or vandalism. Please save this for your school, and not this website.HarukoBass 22:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

A bit of school politics

I've removed a bit of discontent regarding the College's alleged "Big Brother" tendencies. I fully agree it'll be tragic when big Ronnie Renton retires, but here's maybe not the place for a hatchet-job on the rest of the management, n'est-ce pas? Hope everyone back at the old school's well. Regards Iain southern (talk) 15:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

What A Load of Pap

View the history page for my previous attempts at comments. This page should be taken over by the above mentioned 'fathers', who are the only people qualified to comment in any way as to what the school's representative page should be like.

The most disgusting thing, imo, is that the supposed representative of Hutcheson's Grammar is too ill educated to use wiki syntax while referring to their entry as an example.

Id est, a load of egotistic mediocrity that the people that taught me would have given a serious kick up the arse for. Fr Richmond, may your influence still be strong in the school that I had so many good friends and teachers in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.240.202 (talk) 15:21, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Upcoming Review

Having contacted the school since my above comment and knowing that the wiki entry is scheduled for revision, I would like to make some points with respect to that.

In the first place and in response to the comment above from Hutcheson's staff or pupil, my personal feeling is that, while wiki entries should be concise and to the point, they should also be reflective (in the case of schools) of the concerns that parents considering sending their children there might have. Thus a brief list of notable and contactable staff is pertinent.

Talk Page

I generally read the Talk pages on wiki's as a source of information about progressional development of the page, not as a source of vanity oriented ego boosting, so I would suggest that, on revision of the wiki page, that the talk page be prefixed with a request for salient comments only.

Current Content

The History section does seem disjoint and could be the reason for the current C rating that the entry has, ie acceptable but not good. I would expect history there, not architecture.

Social Activity seems to me to be a redundant entry that should probably be under a subheading of Curricular. The Houses section seems to be to me to be historical comment and not deserving of a separate section. Chaplaincy should be under either Staff or Religion and also not have a separate main heading. Sport should be under Curricular Augmentations and not given its own heading. St. Aloysius had several 'extra-curricular' activities, as they were called, when I attended. Retreats should be under Religion. Music, at least when I attended, was a subject unto itself. Though extra curricular in terms of normal school hours, none of my friends took it lightly, nor did the teachers. Notable Former Pupils, I recognise the pride in them but many of those names are non global. Most of those names would be unknown.

Suggested Revision

Follow the structure as outlined, should it be deemed suitable ...

Main Preface

An overview of the school and its criteria as both the world at large and parents of prospective pupils might be interested in it. Perhaps images of the old school, the church and the new building.

Connotive Blurb

A less definitive description but one more appealing to a human perspective. This is a school not just a history or buildings or an advert.

History

A human perspective on the development of the school as its moves from area to area and time to time.

Staff

Pertinent current contact details for staff that may be contacted for further information about the school and its activities

Curriculae

Academic subjects that the school currently teaches

Augmentary Curriculae

Other activities that the school promotes outwith the normal academic school timetable, such as sport, physical education, drama, music. (I personally dont know the school's full current curriculum)

Facilities

Sports grounds, science labs, available musical instruments, etc. What the school can supply to augment learning, education and the life of the pupil at the school.

Notables

A much shorter list of notable former pupils indicating only names that would be immediately recognised.

Student Perspective

See below ..

Etc

References and bibliography

Student Perspective

From my perspective, as an ex pupil, the experience of going to St Aloysius pretty much changed my life. From the perspective of parents considering sending their children to St Al's, that has to be a serious consideration. At the end of the day will my child come out of that school better off than had I sent them elsewhere?

Understanding why and how and to what extent children like going to the school is part of what St Aloysius stands for.

Headmasters List

What about a list of headmasters? Surely, some of them are notable? Pjposullivan (talk) 17:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

John Ogilvie Hall

St Aloysius expanded its preparatory school in 1954 and moved it from Garnethill to Langside. It had entrances from the west side of Mansionhouse Road and from the north side of Camphill Avenue, so was either on the corner or went round the back of the building on the corner. It was called John Ogilvie Hall. It was expanded in 1964. It subsequently closed (when?) and the school was incorporated within the main buildings back at Garnethill. At some stage the name John Ogilvie Hall seems to have been dropped. I understand that the buildings have been demolished.

Can anyone enlarge on this and provide citations with a view to a paragraph being included in the article? The college’s own website (cited below) merely gives the 1954 date and nothing else. Exbrum (talk) 20:57, 31 January 2018 (UTC) Exbrum (talk) 09:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Judging by this https://issuu.com/stalsglasgow/docs/73294_-_final/s/13658425 taken in conjuction with this https://www.liveincaredirect.org/providers/thornwood-hall-71268.php the school was at 157 Camphill Ave, and the main, Victorian, building is still there. Probably the new build at the back has been demolished. Certainly Google streetview shows modern housing there https://www.google.com/maps/@55.8248168,-4.2776544,3a,75y,23.4h,83.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXlM4Fn6-nWP_AmAe-jRWGA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DXlM4Fn6-nWP_AmAe-jRWGA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D23.399838259537102%26pitch%3D6.557711406725005%26thumbfov%3D90!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205410&entry=ttu.

It would seem that the school closed in 1984. It is now a nursing home, Thornwood Hall, but I have not been able to establish if this is the building's original name.

The two websites I have quoted from look like self-publication, so I have not updated the article. Can someone improve on this? Exbrum (talk) 14:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Punctuation

Shouldn't it be St. Aloysius's not St. Aloysius'. 88.110.98.173 (talk) 03:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)