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Merger of variant spellings

Srivastava and Shrivastava should not be merged! They are not the one and same.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.195.12.4 (talk • contribs) 03:46, 5 July 2006

Shrivastava or Shrivastav or Srivastav are all unconventional and undesired spelling changes to the name of the caste.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shashwat sri (talk • contribs) 12:44, 2 August 2006

Bachchan (merged from Talk:Srivastava/Old page)

I think this is a misinformation. According to Dr. Harivansh Rai Bachchan's autobiography 'Kya bhuloon-kya yaad karoon', their family name was Rai and not Srivastava.Being a poet, he took bachchan as his pen name and later on his wife and children also took this pen name as their surname. (By-Dr. Akhoury Ajoy Shanker,U.K.)

This is not a misinformation. In one of his interviews, Amitabh Bachchan has told the media that his name was infact Srivastava before his father, Mr. Harivansh Rai Bachchan, changed it to Bachchan, as that is what his mother used to call him. They originate from Allahabad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajat Ghai (talk • contribs) 23:42, 16 June 2006

I think Dr akhoury is misinformed and is f--------.Amitabh Bacchan used to write Amitabh Srivastava when he was working for jenson and Nicholsan in Calcutta. Also in his film Saat Hindustani, the credits refers him as Amitabh Shrivastava instead of Bachchan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.176.21.80 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 1 November 2006

Maharishi is Varma not Shrivastava

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (1918–2008, recorded by Allahabad University as "M.C. Shrivastava"), introduced Transcendental Meditation

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (Hindi: महर्षि महेश योगी), born Mahesh Prasad Varma. Name removed from list.--NotDoingDone (talk) 17:41, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored it. There's some dispute over the family name of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Will Beback talk 20:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Origin

User:Siddharthmukund contributed the following, but I have moved it here from the article as it needs clarification and sources.

Shrivastavas are descendants of Shree Shribhanu (Srivastava), who was a son of Mata Nandini (Dakshina). Shree Shribhanu's rashi name was Dharamdwaj. Maharaj Chitraguptji sent Shree Shribhanu to establish a Kingdom in the Shrivaas (Srinagar) region in Kashmir and Kandhar. He was married to Nagaraj Vaasuki’s daughter Devi Padmini and two divine sons named Shree Devdatta and Shree Ghanshyam were born. Shree Devdatta got the rulership over Kashmir and Shree Ganshyam got the rulership over the banks of Sindhu river. They were called Srivastava ‘Khare’ born from second wife Kheri. Two divine sons named Shree Dhanvantari and Shree Sarvagya were born. They were called Srivastava ‘Doosre’. The Srivastavas are divided into 65 main Als.

- Fayenatic (talk) 09:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Similar material was added again in March by an anon, User talk:167.88.201.100. I've labelled it as unreferenced. None of the names mentioned have existing articles in Wikipedia, and as it has neither links nor sources it has little value in Wikipedia. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted again as still unreferenced, and none of the names are linked in Wikipedia. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

People NOT named Shrivastava

Can anybody explain why anon editors have added the following people with other names? I've moved these here from the article:

Dr Rajendra Prasad, first President of India
Maha Devi Verma, Hindi poetess

People stated as previous name Shrivastava: ^{[citation needed]}

Swami Shradha Nand - his previous name before accepting Sanyas

- Fayenatic (talk) 17:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same question for Swami Vivekanand? - Fayenatic (talk) 21:01, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move page. - GTBacchus^(talk) 17:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shrivastava → Srivastava — - primary spelling in the article and list of people. Fayenatic (talk) 12:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The name spellings are often used interchangeably in India, and well, spelling mistakes do occur and I don't feel there is a lot of difference in spellings of Sri, Shri, Shree, Sree. Swaroop (talk) 17:45, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notified Noticeboard for India-related topics.--RegentsPark (talk) 02:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't matter From what I understand "Sri" is probably an older Anglicized form and "Shree" is more commonly used now. Nothing to be gained by moving it. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 16:40, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- My reason for nominating it is that most of the notable examples in the article are spelled that way. Someone has changed the text of the article so that its lead paragraph no longer matches the article name. I thought it was better to move the article than to revert to a spelling in the intro which is not the most common one demonstrated in the rest of the article. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved in 2015

I WP:BOLDly moved the page Shrivastava → Srivastava despite the lack of consensus above, given repeated edits by other contributors wanting to give priority to the spelling Srivastava rather than Shrivastava.

To preserve the page history, I first moved the old page Srivastava to Srivastava/Old page. – Fayenatic London 14:12, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

without source

famous person SECTION is without source Shubhamkoeri (talk) 01:04, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Raj era sources

Gupte, TV. "Appendix I.(page 7)". TV Gupte's translation of 1779 AD letter of Banaras Pandits to Peshwa Darbar. p. 8. "Kayasthas are said to be of three sorts (kinds)— (1) the Chitragupta Kayasthas (2) Dhalbhaga Gatri Kshatriya Kayasthas and (3) Kayasthas of the mixed blood. The origin of Chitraguptavanshi Kayasthas is given in the Puranas. He was born from the body of Brahma while he was contemplating how he should know the good and evil acts of living beings. He was a brilliant person with pen and ink in his hands. He was known as Chitragupta and was placed near the God of death. He was appointed to record the good and evil acts of men. He was a Brahmin possessed of supra sensible knowledge. He was a god sharing the offerings at sacrifices. All the Brahmins offer him oblations of rice before taking their meals. He is called Kayastha because of his origin from the body of Brahma. Many descendants of his bearing different Gotras still exist on this earth. From this it will be seen that Kayastha Brahmins of Karhada and Khandesha are the Brahma-Kayasthas.

This was used by a new editor, Raj era sources are not reliable in caste and ethnicity related articles.Heba Aisha (talk) 15:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at WP:RSN

FYI: there is a related discussion at WP:RSN#Modern secondary sources along with primary source from Raj Era about the sources used in the currently disputed text. –Austronesier (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recent revert: March '22

Hey קייאסטה שירומאני, as mentioned in my edit summary, one is a Raj-era source and the other two doesn't even talk about Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha. You need to provide the full quote from the two sources here, which will then be verified as per WP:V. The source (you mentioned Sitush has accepted), is not a WP:RS, please provide the revision history (difference) where Sitush has accepted the same. Do not engage in edit warring, which may lead to getting blocked! Thanks! Ekdalian (talk) 18:07, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Look. TrangaBellam and Sitush.קייאסטה שירומאני (talk) 11:00, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In Bengal, Boses and Basus are an offshoot of Srivastava community of Kannauj of Uttar Pradesh.^[1]^[2] Chequemagnate (talk) (talk) 18:16, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, not done! Bellenoit doesn't say so; TOI is not at all a reliable source for caste related articles; this is a perfect example of WP:OR & WP:SYN. Ekdalian (talk) 19:07, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hayden J. Bellenoit (17 February 2017). The Formation of the Colonial State in India: Scribes, Paper and Taxes, 1760-1860. Taylor & Francis. p. 34. ISBN 978-1-134-49429-3. Retrieved 10 June 2018.
^ "its one big family study says amitabh bachchan netaji shastri related".

Madan Mohan Malviya, Srivastava?

That doesnt seem right. AFAIK he is Brahmin. Wikigaurav (talk) 03:16, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[Bellenoit2017-1] Hayden J. Bellenoit (17 February 2017). The Formation of the Colonial State in India: Scribes, Paper and Taxes, 1760-1860. Taylor & Francis. p. 34. ISBN 978-1-134-49429-3. Retrieved 10 June 2018.

[2] "its one big family study says amitabh bachchan netaji shastri related".

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