Talk:Spleen/Archive 1

Archive 1

pain in spleen area?

You've given about as little information as possible. The spleen has no pain innervation, although some think that contraction of the smooth muscle may explain the pain felt when exercising on a full stomach. If the pain is continuous or occurs at rest then think left lower lobe of lung, pancreas, stomach, colon. JFW | T@lk 20:27, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Could someone please clarify an issue, please?

I'm spleenless and I'm also about to turn 21. I heard from a friend that i couldn't drink alcohol because of the lack of a spleen. Is this true?

Perhaps someone should add a section on what you can do with a spleen as opposed to what you can't...

-Ryan

above added by User:129.61.46.16 21:03, 21 February 2006

I have issue with the statement of use of antibiotics outside of medical advice. The use of Penicillin daily for life is most harmful purely for the fact that the bacterium trying to be prevented would become resistant to the low dose. The purpose for a "course" of antibiotics is to make sure all possibilities of resistance developing is wiped out. You should ALWAYS get medical diagnosis before starting a course of antibiotics.

Above added by User:60.224.124.26 14:47, 25 April 2006

• It has not been well studied by single comparative studies how vaccination alone, antibiotics alone or combination of the two compare at prevention - the consensus is that the combination is probably better than either measure alone. With Penicillin generally used for the routine prophylaxis, very little "harm" is envisaged - most other disease causing bacteria (e.g. staphylococcus aureus, Ecoli) have been resistant to this for many years. As for pneumoccocal itself - only a few selected patients in the community are on long-term prophylaxis and so risks of resistance developing are small; although obviously a good reason not to routinely indiscriminatly treat viral sore throats, children's ear infections or adult's viral coughs with antibiotics. For an individual patient being concerned for long-term antibiotics resulting in resistance is tautology: If we envisage breading up their own bacteria to be resistant, then we are accepting they already have the bacteria - they are either immediately about to die from this infection, or are long-term carries of the bacteria and converting these into antibiotic-resistant will not make them any more virulent to that patient. If however the concern is of acquiring a resistant strain from elsewhere, then being on an ineffective antibiotic makes one no more likely to pick up an already resistant strain (but obviously will prevent picking up a sensitive strain).
• As for awaiting a medical diagnosis before starting a full course - this is explicitly advised against for asplenic patients developing temperature or respiratory tract infections. Waiting to see a doctor and tests to be arranged etc may result in a delay of starting antibiotics for several hours - indeed surviving until the following morning to see ones doctor possibly is proof enough that that patient does not require antibiotics against septicaemia/meningitis causing bacteria - of course the trick is to have survived that long ! In addition most doctors are poorly aware of measures for those who are asplenic and so may not advise starting antibiotics unless the patient's condition starts to deteriorate, by which time it may be too late. Whilst doctors will be usually be right in normal patients in suggesting watchful waiting for a mild fever & sore throat that has started that day, for asplenic patients the risk is not of a greater throat soreness and an extra day off work prevented by a course of antibiotics, but of the onset of septicaemia - which is much better prevented than attempting to cure. Indeed whenever I see an asplenic patient with a mild fever starting within 24hours that they have waited to seek my opinion, I advice them to start taking antibiotics even before examining them - if the illness is just starting, no examination or test nor apparent "wellness" of the patient will exclude the possibility that something is not brewing-up. Of course, after examination I may well tell them that I think they have a viral infection and to be prepared for a few days off work, but I then re-emphasise that they should still take the course of antibiotics !
• Of course asplenic patients having started a course of antibiotics should then see the own doctor - that otherwise isolated temperature may the next day have developed other signs suggesting cystitis for which a change in antibiotic is required (penicillin & amoxycillin are usually poor choices for urinary infections).
• Also I agree that, in hindsight, the course of antibiotics might prove to have been unecessary - e.g. if everyone else in the family comes down with what proves to be a viral sore throat. But for asplenic patients the prevention of the rare but serious risk of septicaemia outweighs occasionally taking a course of antibiotics.
• A long section was added about measures for those without a spleen - this seems inappropriate, given that there already is an article asplenia. However I agree than asplenia was a little limited in its description and needed expansion on travel advice and the need for antibiotics after animal bites. So I have transfered & merged info across to that article. Also I found additional info on what measures are required for tick bites (many sources just warn of these, but give little practical advice). David Ruben ^Talk 16:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

four humors

The "Etymology and cultural views" section of this article links the spleen to black bile and melancholy. But the Four humours article links it to yellow bile and anger. Me, I think the latter is probably correct, but someone shoudl research and definitively fix this. —Steve Summit (talk) 23:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Effect of removal

There was no citation regarding the statement that the abscence of a spleen has been linked to erectile dysfunction in certain trials.Jfournier 13:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

What infections, specifically, are an individual predisposed to after the removal of the spleen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Louis reed (talk • contribs)

Have you checked out asplenia? -- Coneslayer 16:23, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

How do 4.1 out of 740 people die of something? Is this 4.1 per 100? Or was there some way that they classified him as 1/10th dead or 1/10th dead because of this disease.

under Functions

The section states: "The most important functions of the spleen are mechanical filtration, which removes senescent red blood cells and control of infection." I'm having trouble parsing this. Should it read, "The most important [function] of the spleen [is] mechanical filtration, which removes (senescent red blood cells and) control of infection," or is there just a comma missing that would set off a parenthetical phrase, as in, "The most important functions of the spleen are mechanical filtration, which removes senescent red blood cells, and control of infection"?

I've reorganized that section - it should be clearer now. --Arcadian 23:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

More Spleen Lore Needed

It seems that spleens are ruptured pretty easily-- if true, why is it so? Also, how do the spleenless deal with old red blood cells if they don't have a spleen to help in the process of destroying them? Physiologically, how does a spleenless human adapt? Possible infections aside, does a spleenless person have any noticeable troubles in daily life that a spleen possessor wouldn't have, e.g. circulatory problems that hinder athletic persuits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.49.146.16 (talk • contribs)

The Kupfer cells in the liver compensate by removing effete (yes, that is the technical term!) red blood cells. Spleens are not ruptured that easily - you might as well ask why people break bones so easily as they do. It takes a lot of pressure at just the right angle to rupture a (healthy) spleen. And as far as I know, there are no long term problems with being spleenless except an increase in susceptibility to infection (which is generally a LOT LESS marked than a number of people here seem to believe).

Dlh-stablelights 21:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

How would one know if they ruptured or damaged their spleen? And what happens to them if it goes unnoticed?

I had a splenectomy, due to idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura. If I hadn't been there, I wouldn't realize anything were missing. No limitations on athletics, etc. I think lymph nodes carry out many of same functions as the spleen and can more or less take over for it. -- Coneslayer 20:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Spleen pH

Because RBCs are still metabolizing while in the red pulp (the majority of the plasma has been removed), acid byproducts build up, causing a drop in the pH of the environment. Does anyone know what the pH of the spleen is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.113.62 (talk) 23:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Korean article?

This might be a silly question, but I was trying to explain a Korean what the spleen does, so I got the idea of just looking it up here and click on the korean link on the left... If there was one. Actually maybe there is, but I don't know what spleen is in Korean... So if anyone can help out it would be nice. (Either confirm there is no Korean article or just add the missing link) --91.19.183.173 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 15:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Belly?

It doesn't seem very scientific. I think abdominal cavity would sound better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.13.27.117 (talk • contribs) 2007-05-29

Also, the article could say which side of the body the spleen is on. It isn't clear from the picture whether one is looking at the front or the back. -Amatulić (talk) 21:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Strange 'description' meta tag

This is the description of this page as it appears on Google:

Spleen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The spleen is an organ found in all rappers with important roles in regard to songs and the immune system. In rappers, it is located on the vocal cords. ...

Anatomy - Function - Effect of removal - Disorders en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spleen - Cached - Similar

111.223.139.118 (talk) 18:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Anatomy

In the Anatomy section it says: "... Human females lack this organ, as they tend to have increased kidney functions ...". This is not true, females DO have a spleen! I don't know where this idea comes from, but it is not correct. It is true that female's spleens are a bit smaller (males approx. 165 grams vs females approx. 150 grams). Please correct this.

In the venous sinusesof the spleen, approx. 300ml of blood is stored in humans, contradictory to what is written here. (McCance and Huether, Pathophysiology 5th Edtn.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.220.159 (talk) 08:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

More Information needed

This needs more information on the gross anatomy of the spleen, its relations, bloody supply, etc. Going by the article, am I supposed to infer that the spleen levitates in place and teleports its oxygen and bloody supply in from the kidneys? Nonagonal Spider (talk) 19:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

medical advice in "Variation among Vertebrates" section ??

In cetaceans and manatees it tends to be quite small, but in deep diving pinnipeds it can be quite massive, owing to its function of storing red blood cells. Also if your spleen happens to be enlarged you shall rest and keep hyderated but accasionally you may go on walks but do not run or jump around for the health of your body and could cause eruption of the spleen.

The sentence beginning with "also" should be redacted. G. Robert Shiplett 22:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grshiplett (talk • contribs)

Why is there oriental philosophy here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.216.30.126 (talk) 08:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Correction of Anatomy Image

Umm... Appears the intestines have been left to right reversed in the image. Connection of the transverse colon to the descending colon is on the left side, same side as the spleen; not opposite as pictured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.253.194.1 (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I assume you are talking about the first picture in the infobox; It is not the best illustration, but everything is where it should be. If you look closely you will see that the iliocecal junction is on the right and that the descending colon is hidden away behind the ilium to the left... But at first glance it can look like the rectum is simply joined to the iliocecal junction at the picture. JakobSteenberg (talk) 22:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Muddled introduction - suggest reorganization and rewrite.

To my eye, the opening paragraph is muddled and duplicative. Most of it, especially the details about function, should be moved to the appropriate undersection. At the very least, it should be re-organized so that we do not jump from topic to topic as we move from sentence to sentence. Remember that the proper structure for a paragraph is topic sentence, supportive sentences, summary/conclusion. Poihths (talk) 14:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Horse spleens

Horse spleen. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12648465/ Could this information be rolled into the article? Horses apparently dope their blood with extra blood from the spleen when running.

Above posted by User:71.131.83.177 21:08, 8 May 2006

Thanks - interesting article, the additional blood cells for exercise being stored in the spleen is already mentioned in the Anatomy section. I will though mark up and insert the full article reference you provided. David Ruben ^Talk 23:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

What is the purpose of the spleen? Why don't we take them out at birth? if the body had a corporation why would they not fire it?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.67.26 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 15 May 2006 (edit)

what is the function of the spleen?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.245.1 (talk • contribs) 03:40, 31 May 2006

Our limited understanding of its purpose seems clearly described in opening introduction - if this is not clear enough, please explain why so that another editor might try to improve. David Ruben ^Talk 02:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I have a question. Could the swelling of a spleen go away and come back? What would cause this? I am the person who wrote the statement below who had there spleen removed. For me the swelling came and went and the pain was in the left side. My spleen was always swollen to a point and I was a side show for doctors. However to answer your question it had to with physical activity like running or sports. goodluck

I am always amazed when I read about the spleen and all the difference of opinions. YOU should ask the people who are affected. My spleen, gallbaldder and appendix were all removed when I as 14 years old and I am now in my 40's. My spleen weighed 430 cc's which is three to four times larger than it should have been. I was also diagnosed with hereditary sperocytosis too. Let me just say with all do respect to the doctors and researchers stop saying this is NOT a vital organ and it does not affect your health afterwards except for a few infections. There our other people like me that it is much more serious. Yes I have had sepsis, mono and I almost died with a 104' temperature when I was about 17. The list goes on and for some of us it just gets worse with time. I will leave it at that. But please stop saying the spleen is not a vital organ. Sometimes you have no choice but please consider any options carefully with your physician.

Vital organs are ones a human cannot live without. The brain, the heart, the lungs, the kidneys, and the liver are the most important ones. Other organs like the stomach, the colon, and yes, the spleen, are extremely important to most of us, but they can be removed without killing a person or requiring them to live by artificial means. Thus, they are non-vital. I think all researchers and physicians recognize the importance of the spleen and would not remove it unless absolutely necessary. Zfreeland (talk) 06:34, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

funny word

I don't think it would be worthwhile at this point to add a "popular culture" section to the article, but I think it might be worth acknowledging the fact that this organ's name gets used quite often in comedic contexts. For example, there was once a Super Dave Osborne bit in which, after his usual disaster, he was saying that his spleen was "broken", and shortly after the line "I'm sure gonna miss my spleen" got one of the biggest laughs of the whole bit. It's not really the function of the organ itself as much as the name. So I'm going to go ahead and add the Inherently funny word article to the "see also" list for now, and if nobody has any objections, I'll try to make sure to add a mention of "spleen" in that article. - Ugliness Man 15:24, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree. 'OW MY SPLEEN!' is one of the most popular phrases following a violent slapstick moment. example, guy falls out of tree or window. friend calls down to see if he is ok. guy calls back up 'ow my spleen!'. i would be here all day if i listed all the comedies which have used it before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.154.39 (talk) 22:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I think so too. In fact, I came to this article because after laughing at another of the "My spleen!" jokes in Brewster Rockit, I realized that I didn't actually know what I was laughing at. Poihths (talk) 14:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I also think a sentence on this in the "cultural views" section would be worthwhile. The trouble would be finding a source of the sort that's considered up to snuff round here, which comes out and says it (as opposed to just a motley collection of individual uses)... any of you got one? 4pq1injbok (talk) 23:13, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

gallbladder surgery

Can i have pain in my spleen after a gallbladder surgery? and also and endoscopy where the doctor remove a slush that i have on my track close to the pancreas?

- Absolutely. I had a gallbladder blockage that caused spleen pain, and the pain went away the instant I released the GB with homeopathic Staphysagria. In 5 Elements philosophy, the gallbladder controls the energy releases of the spleen and pancreas, and when it is ill or absent, waste energy backs up into those organs. That's why bad gallbladders cause pancreas problems including pancreatitis immediately after GB removal and adult diabetes. One spleen effect is that gallbladder problems reduce bile flow and cause bilirubin, a constituent of bile, to back up through the liver and into the spleen. There are also other natural therapies that may improve bile flow and help the body compensate for the missing GB if problems persist, and that would help the spleen, pancreas, and liver stay healthy long term. ~~Buck — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.240.12.205 (talk) 19:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Extensive Vandalism

There is quite a lot of vandalism going on on this page. Someone should revert the edits made by 213.233.147.126 and fix some of the more egregious vandalism on the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.254.4.12 (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

possible vandalism

In the intro paragraph, it says "Thus, life is possible when the spleen is removed." I'm not an expert on human anatomy, but isn't this not true? Or am I misinformed? Someone knowledgeable please check this. Jonathansuh (talk) 01:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

I could not find the exact paragraph (it must have been changed), but the spleen is not necessary for life as e.g. the heart or lungs... So you can have your spleen surgical removed or be born without one and by pretty much all acounts still live a normal life. As described in the article asplenia, meaning without spleen, is the name of the condition. But good you ask and I hope i answered your question. Kind regards JakobSteenberg (talk) 09:40, 17 May 2013 (UTC) (medical student)

It's not uncommon for people with ITP (a dangerously low platelet count) to have their spleens removed to slow down the removal of platelets from the blood. I have a friend who had that done years ago and is doing fine. In fact, I've been told that if I have to be hospitalized with it a third time, I'll come out without a spleen. JDZeff (talk) 18:10, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Why does "lienalis" redirect here?

Not mentioned in text. 81.159.93.150 (talk) 01:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

• Latinate term ("Lienis" is spleen in latin). --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Culinary use?

No mention of this? I have eaten spleen in a number of places.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.240.124 (talk) 00:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Back in the '50s and '60s, my mother used to buy beef spleen (called "melts" for some reason) cook it up and give pieces of it to our cat. I tasted it it and found it delicious. I doubt that you can get it any longer, although a butcher might be able to order it for you. In fact, that's what brought me here today, curiosity about it as an organ meat. JDZeff (talk) 18:03, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree that culinary uses is something which could be useful to include in the article.★Trekker (talk) 12:47, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with White pulp

As above Tom (LT) (talk) 06:32, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I'd merge it all now as all of them are embryonic. And split out later if the spleen article triples in size. I doubt anyone will look up red or white pulp on their own. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Strongly oppose and close discussion as above for the proposed Red pulp merge. More splitting, not less, is needed.

—Syrenka V (talk) 03:28, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Red pulp

Sensible to have this essential facet, which only has a small article, merged into a section in the main article. Improves the readability and experience for readers, also allowing comparison with White pulp at the same time Tom (LT) (talk) 06:32, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I think it's better to have just a quick overview in the Spleen article and a deeper dive in separate articles for the microanatomical/histological features; the pulps are not just minor aspects of spleen microanatomy but subtopics. If the pages see expansion in the future, the Spleen page might become too protracted/wordy.

These are coincidentally (I actually checked Wiki guidelines only after writing the preceding text and appear to have hit every single point ...) also the listed reasons to avoid page mergers in Wikipedia:Merging#Reasons_for_merger.

Kind regards. -J Jay Hodec (talk) 23:41, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I'd merge it all now as all of them are embryonic. And split out later if the spleen article triples in size. I doubt anyone will look up red or white pulp on their own. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

@Casliber I found the pages by specifically searching for "red/white pulp", and came here after finding it odd that a merger was proposed for the pages. Additionally, looking at Pageviews Analysis, I do not see any obvious correlation between daily pageviews for Spleen, and Red pulp and White pulp. Furthermore, at least if I'm reading Redirect Views statistics right, redirects only account for ~4% of White pulp pageviews, and less than 2% of Red pulp pageviews.

By the way, what is meant by "all of them are embryonic" - am I missing something? And just to reiterate, Wikipedia:Merging#Reasons_for_merger specifically lists the following as grounds against mergers: "Merging should be avoided if:

The resulting article would be too long or "clunky"

The separate topics could be expanded into longer standalone (but cross-linked) articles

The topics are discrete subjects warranting their own articles, even though they might be short"

I think all these apply in this case (emphasis mine).

Sincerely, -J Jay Hodec (talk) 06:03, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Support as per Tom's reasoning. Both types of pulp are components of the spleen and unless and until they could be expanded enough to warrant their own pages seems sensible to include them on page.--Iztwoz (talk) 16:33, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Strongly oppose and close discussion; this is clear-cut, not at all a borderline case. As implied by Jay Hodec above, Wikipedia:Merging#Reasons_for_merger is quite clear that short text in an article at present is not a reason to merge; a viable argument for merger would require making a case that the Red pulp article is unlikely to be expanded. Like many Wikipedia articles, the Spleen article is already too long for the easy surveyability that an encyclopedia article needs for optimal usefulness; opportunities to split, not to merge, should be sought. Also, more specifically addressed to this particular topic, the spleen is really two organs in one; the functions of the red pulp and of the white pulp have little overlap. The statistics on redirects cited by Jay Hodec should surprise no one; the red pulp and the white pulp are of separate and independent interest.

—Syrenka V (talk) 03:26, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Note also: even if (as is impossible to begin with) an argument could be made that Red pulp could not be expanded, that alone would not be sufficient to justify a merge. Necessary, yes; sufficient, no. The Red pulp is still a "discrete subject" warranting its own article, short or long.

—Syrenka V (talk) 03:34, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

I'd like to expand a bit on Jay Hodec's comments above about an article structure with a "quick overview" in the main article vs. a "deeper dive" in separate, subordinate articles. In human-engineering design of software, this kind of structure is called a "fisheye view", and it is critically important to surveyability and comprehensibility. Another example of where Wikipedia needs more of this approach, not less: there is a reason why there is a separate article on the Pancreatic islets, and the article on the whole Pancreas would be improved by transferring much of the material on diabetes into the Pancreatic islets article. Likewise, it is unfortunate that Exocrine pancreas is a mere redirect to Pancreas; it should be created as a separate article, and much of the material on that topic from the Pancreas article should be transferred into it. Such a fisheye-view structure would make it much easier for the reader to decide on their own which subtopics merit a closer look—and to get the layout of the forest clearly without getting lost in the trees.

—Syrenka V (talk) 05:29, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Merged from Splenic disease

Splenic disease became less comprehensive and less referenced than this article, and neither was long enough to justify a wp:Split, so I merged to it here. Links to Splenic disease were mainly from Template:Lymphatic organ disease, which now redirects to the corresponding section in Spleen. Mikael Häggström (talk) 09:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Spleen

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Spleen's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "pmid9486895":

• From Infarction: Nores, M; Phillips, EH; Morgenstern, L; Hiatt, JR (1998). "The clinical spectrum of splenic infarction". The American surgeon. 64 (2): 182–8. PMID 9486895.
• From Splenic infarction: Nores M, Phillips EH, Morgenstern L, Hiatt JR (February 1998). "The clinical spectrum of splenic infarction". Am Surg. 64 (2): 182–8. PMID 9486895.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

2.3 Other functions Storage of red blood cells

I was listening to the Economists (https://econ.st/2FvKJzz) today talk about the Bajau, a people of the Malay Archipelago, whose genetic changes has caused the spleens to enlarge which in turn helps them in their dive response where blood vessels constrict in the extremities, heart rates slows down and red blood cells are released. The enlarged spleen caused by these genetic changes allows them to stay under water longer although all humans have this response to a lesser extent.

I went to this article and found no mention of the dive response and would like to have that added to other functions. To read ...hypovolemia[15], hypoxia.[16], and as part of the dive response — Preceding TSpot-SF (talk) 09:00, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment here. There is far more to the spleen than the article indicates. It far more than a "filter" that "occasionally" supplies "extra blood cells" 1. It is of vital importance in reading the "debris" of an infection that ends up in the blood. 2. It helps programs white blood cells with this information, and sends them to the marrow for reproduction. 3. Also, as an engineer, I would describe it as a "blood capacitor" It stores varying amounts of oxygenated blood in response to external stimuli and demand. It contracts and reinflates as needed for demand. 4. This demand is likely meditated directly through the solar plexus, and via the sympathetic and parasympathetic (vagus) nerve systems. 5. Curious fact: What is the most common cause of death for someone that has had their spleen removed? A: pneumonia 6. How often is someone that has had pneumonia then checked for spleen damage? Almost never. Should they be? Every time. 7. Yet there are so few tests for spleen damage: that needs to change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.102.68.190 (talk) 00:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

The etymology reference [1] is a 404 error

Hi, I'm new here, so sorry if this isn't the right way to point this out. The first paragraph ends "The word spleen comes from Ancient Greek σπλήν (splḗn).[1]", but the page that citation links to doesn't exist. Does this mean the citation should be removed and the sentence should instead end with "[citation needed]"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dricardo (talk • contribs) 14:25, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

content trimmed from ==Society and culture==

Just parking here [1] some unsourced but broadly pertinent text:

• [In the Talmud] Sanhedrin 21b and Avodah Zarah 44a (and Rashi ibid.) additionally describe how in the ancient world, some runners destroyed their spleens with drugs to try to increase their speed.
• In modern English, "to vent one's spleen" means to vent one's anger, and can apply to both males and females, while the adjective "splenetic" denotes a foul mood.
• [In German] The phrase "einen Spleen haben" means to be quirky or eccentric.
• The French word for the organ itself is rate.

86.172.165.171 (talk) 14:28, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Speen

What are the high risk after the spleen was removed and what does the person should not eat? Ronewa16 (talk) 08:53, 20 May 2021 (UTC)