Talk:Robert de Quincy

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Pipera (talk)

Removed:

by King William of Scotland, his cousin.

Thias is not possible, explain how this is possible, and a reference for this statement.

Grandchildren/Great grandchildren

It is unnecessary to show Robert's grandchildren or great grandchildren. You have been told this before. Also, information already cited to secondary sources DOES NOT need more of your broken incomplete references. --Paramandyr (talk) 23:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See: David I of Scotland - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_I_of_Scotland Pipera (talk) 23:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pipera (talk) Marriage and issue Robert married Orabilis, daughter of Nes [4] fitz William, Lord of Leuchars. [5].

She was married three times to secondly Adam of Fife see Donnchad I, Earl of Fife and thirdly Morggán, Earl of Mar.

They had:

Saer de Quincy (died 1219), married Margaret de Beaumont, daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester [6] Unknown (daughter) de Quincy married de St Andrew Sir Saer I de St Andrew of East Haddon married Matilda de Dyve daughter of Hugh Dyve and Agnes they had issue: Robert de St Andrew married Albreda James de St Andrew (1228) Ralph de St Andrew (1228 - 1278) William de St Andrew Laurence de St Andrew Saer II de St Andrew John de St Andrew [7] Sir Roger de St Andrew (d before 1249) [8] [9] [10] Orabilis and Robert divorced.

Secondly, he married Eve of Galloway.

That is a personal opinion.

Continue to edit war at your own risk.

Also, this sentence;

"he married Eve of Galloway, who was previously married to Walter Barclay. <refPeople of Medieval Scotland 1093 - 1371 Walter Barclay, chamberlain (d.c.1193) https://poms.ac.uk/record/person/6/ref>

is source misrepresentation. This is what the reference states;

""He[William Barclay] married (perhaps secondly), Eve, who may have been a daughter of Uhtred, lord of Galloway."

You can not, state something in a definitive voice when the source doesn't state it was definitive. Also, this particular source fails to show where this information originates. --Paramandyr (talk) 23:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, sign your posts at the end not the beginning, like you've been told before. --Paramandyr (talk) 23:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence;

"This original grant was expanded by Robert's son, Saer de Quincy, to include rights to coal and quarry working down to the low water mark on the Firth of Forth, making Prestoungrange one of the earliest sites of coal mining in Scotland."

Please post the page number and quote for this from the source; "Prestonpans : a social & economic history across 1000 years", ed. Annemarie Allan, Jane Bonnar, Gordon Prestoungrange, (Prestoungrange University Press, 2006). --Paramandyr (talk) 00:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]