Talk:Nutrition and pregnancy

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Undergoing major creation

This page is undergoing major creation, and will be completed sometime tommorow morning. Please do not edit this until it is completed, then it can be expanded. For more info, check out Wikipedia:Wikiproject Nutrition to join up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSpudema (talk • contribs) 17:48, 1 November 2005‎

That page does not exist. --Bork (talk) 15:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this comment about this page "undergoing major creation" relevant? How old or current is this message? BossieOps (talk) 19:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

The initial comment is from 2005 (!). I've added Template:Unsigned to indicate that. It's not relevant now, but should remain here as a record. To User:Rlowe44, please do not remove other editors' comments. I have restored the above conversation. Voceditenore (talk) 07:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

C class

I'm downgrading this article to C class mainly because of poor, essay-like, presentation; the information herein is also very far from comprehensive. For instance the fact the folic acid prevents spina bifida in the baby is considered one of the most important discoveries in nutrition in the last quarter of the 20st century (seel PMID 17928804); this ain't even mentioned in the article. As for presentation I find the tone inappropriate, e.g. "The following sections refer to the pertinence of nutrition throughout pregnancy..." And why is Mary E. Barasi mentioned in the 1st sentence in the lede? She's just a lecturer, not some famous scientist. Xasodfuih (talk) 13:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Still C-class as of January 2018. The article gets >3,000 hits a month, and deserves better. David notMD (talk) 13:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Strange section

This section below needs to have a more explanatory header and references before reinsertion. Mikael Häggström (talk) 08:00, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Beneficial factors against pre-pregnancy nutrition

During pregnancy, the most important factor could be seen as the amount of fat content within the woman when in the early stages of pregnancy. It is recommended, again that women who may be obese, should lose fat before trying to conceive a baby due to the infertility related to obesity.

Again, research has shown that women who have had optimal fat stores, and who were well-supplemented, had a much lessened experience in childbirth in regards to the energy and effort required during metabolic changes within the body, which was noted by monitoring leptin levels during pregnancy.

Merger proposal

This discussion has been moved to Prenatal nutrition and birth weight. The Haz _talk 01:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm starting the merge.188.25.163.192 (talk) 19:18, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I merged Maternal nutrition here, per tag. 188.25.163.192 (talk) 19:39, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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Eating food women crave can be lethal

I have two sources that speak about the toxmoplasma parasite that can be transferred to the placenta during pregnancy from semi rare steak that some women end up eating, which goes under health risks of food with nutrition on this page. One is more scientific with original research, and the other is a peer review page that answers the question. Which one is more credible?

Findal Et Al, Gry. "APMISVolume 123, Issue 4, Article First Published Online: 28 JAN 2015." Toxoplasma Prevalence among Pregnant Women. N.p., 2015. Web. 11 Sept. 2015.

Schneker, Sarah. "Is It Safe to Eat Rare or Raw Meat during Pregnancy?" BabyCentre. N.p., 2013. Web. 11 Sept. 2015.

Thanks for the help! Nutrition32 (talk) 15:42, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Caffeine and pregnancy

The citation - Cochrane - included only two studies. A proper summary of the topic should consider PMID 26329421 PMID 26193706 PMID 26026343 and PMID 25238871 David notMD (talk) 16:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Done. Added guidelines on caffeine consumption during pregnancy. Moved mention of caffeine out of lead and into the nutrition during pregnancy section. David notMD (talk) 03:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Why WP:MEDRS?

Why WP:MEDRS? Two classes of citations should not be used in medicine/health articles. The first - sadly for research scientists and their avid students, is primary research, which includes individual clinical trials (and animal research, and all that in vitro stuff). Instead, look for citable meta-analyses, systematic reviews, reviews and government organization position papers. If there are too many of that ilk, prefer articles for which a PDF of the entire article is available at not cost rather than behind a paywall. The second class includes blogs, websites from other than high-reputation non-government organizations (Mayo Clinic, WebMD...), and so on. The topic of nutrition before, during and after pregnancy draws a lot of well-intentioned people who will make statements that may be true, but are not backed up by reputable citations. David notMD (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Create table showing vitamin and mineral recommendations?

A table could be created, similar to what exists in the Nutrient article, with columns of dietary recommendations for women of child-bearing ages, pregnancy, and lactation. The reference used here shows those values according to the European Food Safety Authority, for the EU. The USA and Canada jointly set recommendations, which differ. To not overwhelm the article, perhaps create table citing one system and then mention (and reference) the other.

Done. For vit and min. David notMD (talk) 04:55, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

TAU Wikimed class evaluation

Well written paragraph on an important topic that does help to clarify the subject of eating fish during pregnancy. May be helpful to include a link to the Mercury in fish page to to give reference to what kind of fish are safer to eat than others. (Ex. shrimp and salmon are pretty low on the list while tuna is pretty high) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntothesameImage (talk • contribs) 09:04, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia tries to avoid "how to" for health topics, which would be opposition to listing safe and non-safe fish or Wikilinking to the mercury in fish article, especially as mercury content may depend on where fish caught. The text in this article could be improved by being specific on how much omega-3 is recommended. For example, EFSA recommends 250 mg of EPA + DHA for adults, and an additional 100-200 mg of DHA for women pregnant or lactating. David notMD (talk) 15:24, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Suggested Terminology in intro

When introducing the three important stages in which nutrition is important, I think it would be appropriate to introduce the terminology: preconception, prenatal, and postpartum. I feel that by doing so we would be using the terminology used more commonly in the medical literature and would allow readers to become familiar with these terms when going to other articles e.g. the references. Dmusheye (talk) 20:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia users are predominantly not in the healthcare professions. As recommended at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles the intention is to write for the general audience. An example given: use "kidney" rather than "renal". David notMD (talk) 21:18, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

While I would not use the word renal when writing for Wikipedia, I don't think prenatal is such a technical or uncommon term when writing for the common Wikipedia reader. I suggested that as a stylistic choice. When reading a paragraph that switches between using "before birth" and "prenatal" it might (1) imply that the two are not completely interchangeable or (2) just make the article unnecessarily wordy and awkward to read. That is my opinion at least. I would be interested to read other thoughts on the matter. Dmusheye (talk) 08:56, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

To zinc or not to zinc

The other single compound sections described clear evidence that deficiency or excess affects pregnancy. The cited reference for zinc confirmed low zinc, especially if vegetarian diet, but provided no evidence that low zinc affected pregnancy. David notMD (talk) 00:47, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Aded vitamin B12

Added content copied from Vitamin B12, which I had created there. David notMD (talk) 14:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Nutrition before pregnancy

adding information under the "iron" bullet point to include baseline levels Student3665 (talk) 04:13, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Lot of content in this section is actually about during pregnancy. David notMD (talk) 12:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Technical and Scientific Communication

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 22 August 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): PresleyS123 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by PresleyS123 (talk) 23:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC) I added information to this article that focuses on the inclusion of both the Paleo and the Ketogenic diets that people are commonly on now. The reason for this is to include the ideas of these diets and how they can positively or negatively affect pregnancy in both the mother and the baby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PresleyS123 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Amending advice

I think it would be better to restructure the overview part. Since the first paragraph mentioned prenatal nutrition's effect on future disorders to newborns but failed to bring effects on mothers up, the second paragraph was supposed to center on fetus nutrition supplement and newborns' developmental concerns but the current statements remains not that logical, the third paragraph initially focus on maternal nutrient intake is incomplete. I feel that by dividing the topic into mother-concentration and baby-concentration will make the paragraph structure clearer and ideas easy to get. Maybe we could shortly introduce something like gestational diabetes or, relationship between breastfeeding and first 1000 days' risk of overweight of newborn?

Also, more updated research could be bringing up to this article, researches like fetal nutrition supply's relationship with depression, fetal overnutrition, postnatal overnutrition, GDM could be covered? The introduction of nutrition shouldn't just focus on food or nutrient content intake but making individuals realize that lifestyles (e.g. breastfeeding or not) equally matters. While the term of this article is now centering on the food intake, further discussions could take place, I guess? McNuggetMmkka (talk) 14:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)