Talk:Nintendo Switch

Predecessor

I went back and read the prior discussion and I don’t understand why we aren’t listing the Wii U *and* the 3DS as a predecessor. On the 3DS page we list the Switch as its successor. I get that the Switch breaks the normal definitions of console and handheld, and Nintendo doesn’t want to put labels on it, but it’s clearly become Nintendo’s de facto handheld too. RickyCourtney (talk) 18:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

That the 3DS lists the Switch as a successor doesn't mean that's right. We go by what Nintendo has said in that the Switch's design is a successor of the Wii U, but not the 3DS. Just because it is a handheld system doesn't make it a successor to the last handheld. Masem (t) 21:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate Masem's point regarding Nintendo's official stance. However, for our classifications, wouldn't it be beneficial to consider both Nintendo's official statements and the objective continuity within the market? The Switch undeniably fills the role of Nintendo's primary handheld device, a role previously held by the 3DS. By listing both the 3DS and Wii U as predecessors, we provide a more comprehensive picture of Nintendo's history for readers. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 23:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

The 3DS is mentioned by name 17 times currently in the article. I don't think there's any real confusion as to its role in relation to the Switch and Nintendo's history. Sergecross73 msg me 10:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. That’s why I find it the resistance to listing it as a predecessor in the infobox particularly confounding. RickyCourtney (talk) 15:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

My other concern is that this infobox generally feels way too bloated. Sections like display, dimensions, mass, and others could really be better presented in a side-by-side comparison table in the article (See: Game Boy#Technical specifications for a good example). RickyCourtney (talk) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

I fully agree. I'm not sure why every little technical specification has to be listed in the infobox, the place where only the most notable and important details should be. However, I'm not sure why this would prevent '3DS' from being listed in the infobox as a predecessor. A single new line of text really wouldn't make much of a difference in terms of bloating. Loytra (talk) 03:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Because Nintendo has said that the 3DS is not a predecessor of the Switch. Masem (t) 03:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Nintendo may say that, common sense says otherwise. We do not need to be beholden to what a corporation says.

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it just might be a duck. The switch looks like a handheld, it acts like a handheld, so it just might be a handheld… and therefore should be included as the successor to the 3DS as Nintendo’s handheld. I think I get why Nintendo doesn’t want that “handheld” label applied, but that’s a job for their branding and PR team to figure out, not for Wikipedia editors to treat as gospel. RickyCourtney (talk) 05:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

It still falls as original research. People want the switch which can be used as a handheld to be considered a successor to the 3DS because that was the last handheld Nintendo made, but we use those fields to talk more specifically from the technology standpoint, and the Switch is technically very far from the 3DS and much closer to how the Wii U was developed. Masem (t) 12:29, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

What you're describing is called original research on Wikipedia. Sergecross73 msg me 12:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I've found one source directly proclaiming the Switch to be the 3DS's successor ("It might not be as portable as its predecessor, but this is Nintendo’s follow-up to the DS line of consoles"), three articles claiming the Switch Lite is it's successor ([1][2] [3]), and a couple others indirectly describing the Switch Lite as something of a 3DS successor ([4][5][6][7]). Still not sure if this warrants a mention of the 3DS in the infobox, but it's something to note. Loytra (talk) 10:00, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

camera

shouldn't the ir sensor be included under camera? 195.99.12.117 (talk) 15:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

edit request: "software" section

The Nintendo Switch runs on a custom-made operating system named Horizon

this phrasing kinda sucks: "custom-made" seems weirdly informal. this might be a bit nitpicky, but "runs on" doesn't seem quite right to me either. it should either be "Nintendo Switch software runs on a[...]", or "The Nintendo switch runs a[...]". as for the former, just "custom", or maybe "proprietary" would fit better. it should also mention the 3DS operating system too. possibly a new sentence reading something like "This is the same operating system that the 3DS^{[link if applicable, i imagine it was linked earlier]} ran, but improved to start up faster."

i think these edits would improve the article and make it better for people who are looking at it to find out about the software the nintendo switch runs. 2A02:C7C:1A12:4C00:8198:BE8:2E4A:B7B8 (talk) 16:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done: No reference for the 3DS running the same operating system was provided, so this part was not added. GSK (talk • edits) 18:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2024

It said the switch 2 will be announced during 2025 fiscal year which ends on march 31st of 2025. That doesn't make sense, it should be during FY2024 which ends on march 2025 103.196.119.35 (talk) 12:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

•  Not done Nintendo is currently in what it calls its FY 25 (check the fiscal reports used for sales) , which ends on March 31, 2025. Masem (t) 15:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

  Nintendo refers a fiscal year as "Fiscal Year Ending March 2025". I am not convinced that such expression is equivalent to "Fiscal Year 2025" (FY2025). I think we should reconsider the prose. MilkyDefer 01:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Split Article for Nintendo Switch 2?

So over the past few weeks the "faucet" at Nintendo has sprung a large leak.

There has been a lot of leaks regarding the new Nintendo Switch 2. It is supposed to be announced on Thursday of this week.

I would like to propose beginning to split off content pertaining to this into its own article.

What does the community think? Should we remove the redirect to the Nintendo Switch 2 article and begin to fill it in? Urbanracer34 (talk) 15:06, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

It is rumored thrusday will be the announcement with hardware details. If that happens, then it will make sense to start the article but not until then. Masem (t) 15:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

It's WP:TOOSOON if it doesn't even have a name yet. Wait for the reveal first. Sergecross73 msg me 15:48, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough. I guess we will wait for the event and go from there. Urbanracer34 (talk) 19:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

There is a rough draft going at Draft:Unnamed Nintendo console. I personally don't see much of a point, as I think most of it will likely be replaced by whatever concrete info is announced, but it is an option. Sergecross73 msg me 20:02, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Nintendo has formally announced the Switch 2 as of today, but without any technical details beyond a few flashes of size and joy con changes. This is not enough to split off a new article. Barring more explicit tech details about the console, we likely have to wait until April 2 (the date of the direct for it) to expand. --Masem (t) 13:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2025

Maybe as a successor "Nintendo Switch 2" can be entered. MarrtyFDGUYT (talk) 12:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

 Not done Nintendo has yet to announce anything specific. Masem (t) 12:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Switch 2 should be it's own article since it's new brand console

Switch 2 should be it's own article since it's new brand console because joycons, hardware and specs are very different thus not variant model of regular Switch

You can't put Switch 2 games on regular switch and you can't use switch 2 joycons on regular switch because of different hardware

If you didn't know Switch 2 exists here's source from official Nintendo themselves Nintendo of America on X: "Here's an update from Nintendo. Please take a look: https://t.co/4coElV9oYo https://t.co/ociGG8yzr4" / X ElenaCyclone (talk) 13:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

It will, once we can write more than "it was revealed". There's zero hard details that we can really use from the announcement to create the article. Likely won't have those until the April direct. Masem (t) 13:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Nintendo Switch 2 exists now-- I think most of the information in this article is repeated there, so this article's information can be trimmed down. ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:56, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Move page to "Nintendo Switch (console)" and repurpose old page name for Switch brand

Nintendo seems to be trying to turn the "Switch" name into a brand similar to "PlayStation" and "Xbox" since the Switch's successor is just called the Switch 2. I propose moving the current Nintendo Switch page to a separate "(console)" page and repurposing the old page for the Nintendo Switch brand. Zenphia1 (talk) 21:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - Until there's a "Switch 3" article, there's no need for that, as any content firmly fits into the Switch 1 and Switch 2 articles. Sergecross73 msg me 21:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Sergecross. It's too early in my opinion. Even if we make an article about the brand, I think the main topic should still be this console Lazesusdasiru (talk) 22:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support per the listed arguments.Babylonian1963 (talk) 23:08, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• What would even go in such an article that wouldn't already be in the Switch 1 or Switch 2 article? I don't understand how it a brand/series article wouldn't be completely redundant, nor does the proposal explain this. Sergecross73 msg me 23:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose just like we don't create series pages for a series with only 2 games, makes no sense for this. Exactly what would go on the page? I also believe we have a page that is dedicated to Nintendo's hardware releases which better serves the claimed purpose (ETA: Nintendo video game consoles) Masem t) 23:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Sergecross73. Not necessary to create an article. JRGuevarra (talk) 00:10, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, as such an additional article would have no additional value yet. Perhaps in the future, when the "Switch" brand really develops into a line of numerous (at least 3) consoles, excluding mere hardware revisions, and there's reception about it, having an overview article would make sense, in which case we can discuss it again. Until then, the article Nintendo video game consoles provides a good overview of all Nintendo consoles. Maxeto0910 (talk) 00:19, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

With regard to that: I also think the "Product family" parameter in the infobox should be left empty for now to avoid confusion, as it serves no purpose at all and is arguably even wrong; there is no "Switch product family" yet, there's only one Switch console with some hardware revisions, which Nintendo collectively refers to as the Switch family, but this obviously isn't meant with the infobox parameter as this would be a tautology since the infobox already covers all the Switch revisions as well. Maxeto0910 (talk) 00:50, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Agreed. Sergecross73 msg me 00:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per (almost) everyone else. ScarletViolet tc 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)