Talk:Miguel Cardona
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Ethnicity in lede
[edit]Per MOS:ETHNICITY, Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability
. Cardona was born in Connecticut and is ethnically Puerto Rican. Because Puerto Rico is an American territory, native Puerto Ricans are American. Therefore, defining Cardona as "Boricua-American" is a violation of MOS:ETHNICITY. While I have very little knowledge of Puerto Rico and Puerto Rican culture, a cursory Google search yields that the word "Boricua" is a colloquial or informal term. It is not appropriate to use anywhere in the article. KidAd talk 22:43, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Is Boricua a pejorative? I cannot see getting into a lather over including a word that many English speakers need a dictionary for. I had to look it up. I guess I'll downgrade to SP now. O was going to invite Authentichistorybuff to opine, but they are unavailable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm having trouble thinking of an equivalent. I don't think it could be categorized as a racial slur, but it's certainly slang. KidAd talk 00:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
FWIW, Telemundo Puerto Rico used the word, Wiktionary calls it a "colloquialism" in both languages. Would like to hear from those who argue for its use. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:18, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Should I ping someone at random from Wikipedia:WikiProject Puerto Rico? Or Category:Puerto Rican Wikipedians? I'm kind of nervous to do that. KidAd talk 00:34, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh. Post to the Wikiproject's talk page. That would be a great idea. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:39, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
President-elect cannot nominate cabinet members
[edit]Please do not change the infobox in this article to say that Cardona is the nominee for the Secretary of Education until the nomination has actually been made; only the president can make a nomination and Biden has not yet been sworn in. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 06:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's clear that editors have no interest in discussing this issue but prefer to lie to readers so I am unwatching this article and moving on to other things. Best of luck everyone! ElKevbo (talk) 16:52, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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National Review assessment of Cardona
[edit]There has been repeated deletion (here's the edit) of the NR assertion that Cardona was the worst education secretary so far. Certainly it is a harsh critique, but it is the title of the article in a large periodical. Can or should this be deleted? Melchior2006 (talk) 17:46, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- It’s also highly political and heavily slanted right. This position can easily be seen for what it is: retaliation for the highly criticized tenure of Betsy DeVos, and an effort to shore up future efforts to dismantle the DoE. That article is not an even-handed evaluation of Dr. Cardona’s tenure. It’s a MAGA hatchet-job that has no place in an encyclopedia. Drmargi (talk) 19:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't agree. The lede for the Wiki article on NR says "the magazine has played a significant role in the development of conservatism in the United States, helping to define its boundaries and promoting fusionism while establishing itself as a leading voice on the American right." I think there should be a variety of perspectives on Wikipedia. Your interpretation of the article might have its own slant. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 20:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I agree there should be a variety of perspectives, but reasonably objective ones. Your description of NR makes my point: it’s highly slanted to one political POV, which is hostile to the current administration. Their opinion of Dr. Cardona lacks any semblance of neutrality. My assessment of the source doesn’t have to travel through my personal political views. NR proclaims its bias loud and clear. --Drmargi (talk) 13:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't agree. The lede for the Wiki article on NR says "the magazine has played a significant role in the development of conservatism in the United States, helping to define its boundaries and promoting fusionism while establishing itself as a leading voice on the American right." I think there should be a variety of perspectives on Wikipedia. Your interpretation of the article might have its own slant. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 20:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I made an edit to remove the quote, but somehow my edit comment was not included. Luckily I retain form history, so here is the comment I meant to add: "the last quote does not add to the previous paragraph - if there are additional substantive criticisms, please add cited facts to the article similar to the FAFSA issue, rather than hand-wavy name calling hyperbole that seems primarily meant to advertise an opinion piece." --BBUCommander (talk) 05:22, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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