Talk:Luca Guadagnino's unrealized projects

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What constitutes "unrealized"

Carrying my post from the dispute resolution board here as it wasn't the right location. @ZanderAlbatraz1145: @R.A Huston: @Nils2088:. Will also be posting to the WikiProject Film talk page.

So recently, on not just this page but other pages as well, projects that Guadagnino is still currently attached to and working on have been getting listed on this page. The assertion being that since they haven't yet entered production, it counts as unrealized. I firmly disagree. It's outlined clearly in the lead sentence that the criteria is "unproduced". Steven Spielberg's in more detail explains "never progressed beyond the pre-production stage under his direction. Some of these projects fell in "development hell" or were officially canceled, some were turned over to other production teams, and still others never made it past the speculative stage". This is to explain that those projects would not be produced, or would go ahead without them as the director. The two specific projects in question here are Sgt. Rock and American Psycho. In the case of the former, development news was issued not even a month ago. In the case of the latter, casting news was announced just yesterday. How exactly does this entail an "unrealized project"? An argument was made readers would be "hurt" by them being removed. How? The projects are currently detailed on Luca's page, both have respective draft articles that are being worked on while they wait to meet standards for mainspace inclusion, so no the reader is not being "hurt", the information can still be found in the appropriate locations. It's in essence acting like a crystal ball to include them here. For all intents and purposes Guadagnino currently plans to work on these, they are being regularly updated, they are not unrealized and thus should not be listed here. Rusted AutoParts 06:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

While I do agree it's odd to add these projects in " Unrealized films" because they're in active development the alternative would create a mess in the directors' main pages, since it would mean to add all projects that are not officially cancelled. For instance, in the case of Luca Guadagnino and as of today, he has around 9 films in active development with talent attached and it's hard to catalog what's actually unproduced. For example Luca's The Lord of the Flies is officially in development as of 2023 but there's been no develoments since 2020. So I think that, for now, this is the best we got. Also, I agree this should be arbitrated at WikiProject Film main page, this could be a landmark for style guidelines Nils2088 (talk) 06:45, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]