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A fact from Louis Zhang Jiashu appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 January 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Louis Zhang Jiashu, a Catholic bishop of Shanghai who studied at Canterbury in 1911, received the archbishop of Canterbury, Michael Ramsey, in Shanghai in 1983?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 02:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Louis Zhang Jiashu, Catholic bishop of Shanghai who studied at Canterbury in 1911, received the archbishop of Canterbury, Michael Ramsey, in Shanghai in 1983? Source: Zhang studied at Canterbury was mentioned in Fu, Keyong (1996). 爱国爱教的楷模——张家树主教 [An Example for his Love of the Country and the Religion: Bishop Zhang Jiashu] (PDF). 中国宗教 [Religions In China] (01). ISSN 1006-7558. and Zhang, Duomo (2002). 我的伯父张家树主教 [My Uncle, Bishop Zhang Jiashu]. 世界宗教文化 [World Religions and Cultures] (03).. Zhang meeting Ramsey can be found in p. 408, Editorial Committee (2001). 上海宗教志 [History of Religion in Shanghai]. Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences Press. ISBN 9787806188255.
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- Comment: The fun part is that they visited each other's jurisdiction despite being of different churches. I think another good hook could cover the fact that Zhang was elected bishop by the party-backed CPA, but was soon disposed during the party-made Cultural Revolution. Feel free to throw in other hooks.

Created by TheLonelyPather (talk). Self-nominated at 07:32, 15 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Louis Zhang Jiashu; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Substantial interesting article on fine sources, Chinese sources accepted AGF. The hook is fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Gerda! ~~Now I just need to supply you with a QPQ...~~ QPQ done! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 00:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: TheLonelyPather (talk · contribs) 08:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Sawyer-mcdonell (talk · contribs) 07:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i aim to get through this in the next week or so ... sawyer * he/they * talk 07:06, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Take your time! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 07:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review

The Atlantic article (Minter 2007) listed in the magazines section of the bibliography is unused - it has a harverror. There are also quite a lot of optimistic redlinks, which I'm absolutely not opposed to, but many of them are not introduced in the prose (such as Angelo Lazzarotto) and that would be good to clarify. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 18:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the Atlantic article from the bibliography.
Removed the red link over Angelo Lazzarotto, and clarified it. Now the general principle is to use red links only when there is another article in a different language.
Substituted "lang-zh" templates with "zhi" templates. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 20:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there anything out there about his legacy? He died over 35 years ago; some hindsight about his impact on the Chinese Catholic Church would really round out the article for criteria 3a. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 19:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find much. I will search a bit more later. I think his impact on the Chinese Catholic Church is his role in the founding of the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association (CCPA) and that he was the "bishop of Shanghai" during a large portion of the 20th century. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 21:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your intuition–I found quite a bit. I will expand his late years (post 1980) accordingly this week. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 23:04, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
awesome! i'll work on getting through the rest of the criteria this weekend :) ... sawyer * he/they * talk 01:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sawyer-mcdonell I supplied some more information. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 10:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing - all the sources seem reliable & perfectly fine; glad to see a lot of academic sourcing here. I can't read the Chinese sources, but I spot-checked the citations to the main English-language sources (Mariani 2011 & 2016, Lazzarotto 2017) and everything looks good to me. I think the legacy aspect has been addressed, and I don't have any further concerns regarding the GA criteria. Excellent work! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 23:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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