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Should we add any of the U.S. Labor Wars (especially the Coal Wars) to the list?

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Not sure if we should count them or not? I'm having a hard time with this one. On the one hand we could consider them as regular conflicts like the List of conflicts in the United States. Although the top of this list does not say wars, it says the US was involved in 113 military conflicts. But it does not stop short of conflicts outside the USA, because it includes Bleeding Kansas. It does seem to stop short of wars where the U.S. military is not involved, but then again the U.S. miliary could be said to include the U.S. miliary on two points. 1. John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry did involve the U.S. military, and 2. it involved them as Bleeding Kansas bleed into the Civil War (pun intended).

So in like manner should we open up this list to the Coal and Labor wars where the U.S. military fought in? Here is a few key ones to consider The Coal Wars (think of the Battle of Blair Mountain), the Great Railroad Strike of 1877, the 1811 German Coast Uprising.

Many of them included the national guard at the very least, If we stop there what about Shays' Rebellion, the Whiskey Rebellion, or Fries's Rebellion?

If we went this route, maybe we should only include the Labor Wars, Rebellions, and Slave Rebellions where the United States military fought in.

So for example we would not include Slave rebellions such as the 1842 Slave Revolt in the Cherokee Nation?

Also if we do the Coal Wars should we divide them up based off of Wars involving the U.S. Military or just leave them as the Coal Wars in general and adjust the dates and casualties based on all the Coal Wars combined where the USA fought? My hunch is no since we did not do this with the Banana wars or the American Indian Wars, but its fine with me either way.

Thanks. Historyguy1138 (talk) 19:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2024

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Hello Mr Wikipedia could you please let me edit pages like this one. Thank you! DharMannMan (talk) 22:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently, the article is set to be Wikipedia:Protection policy#Comparison table to help prevent possible vandalism to it. To edit this page, you need to have an account that is at least 4 days old and have made at least 10 edits elsewhere on Wikipedia. However, you are more than welcome to request an edit to the page in the form at "Change X to Y" or "Add X" as long as you also provide a secondary reliable source for the change. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:30, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay then DharMannMan (talk) 00:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rationale for Israel-Hamas war inclusion

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I am about to make an edit that will add the Israel-Hamas war to this list. This comes following the closure of an RfC that ruled in favour of including America as a belligerent in the war alongside Israel. this should be added to reflect the new consensus Genabab (talk) 23:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good call Genabab, but you did not change the part where it says "Four military engagements encompassing three wars, all of which are interventions, currently involve the US: the Yemeni Civil War, the Somali Civil War, and the Syrian Civil War."
Also there is a yellow flag at the bottom next to Iran with no combatant name attached to it.
Otherwise it looks good. Historyguy1138 (talk) 08:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added the proposed edits Genabab (talk) 16:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good edits Genabab. Looks great. Historyguy1138 (talk) 17:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should we add the USS Liberty Incident during the Six-Day War?

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I mean I think it would classify as a conflict, but many historians believe this was just an accidental attack on the Liberty. Still 34 men died and 171 were wounded. What does everyone think?

Six-Day War USS Liberty Incident


Historyguy1138 (talk) 08:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accidental or not, its just one attack. And not a wider campaign or conflict. It's like saying the bombing of the one ship in the 90s by al-Qaeda was a conflict. Not very appropriate terminology imo Genabab (talk) 16:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean I think I agree with you but for different reasons. It just seems to me that these were accidental attacks that the U.S. did not counterattack in.
There are several incidents on this page where the U.S. were involved in only one battle. And the article says "List of wars involving the United States" while the first line says. The United States has been involved in 115 military conflicts. Moreover it was a part of a wider campaign or conflict in that it was an attack during the Six-Day War.
If it was maybe something like the 2012 Benghazi attack I think I would agree with you. 1 because there was no U.S. military involved unless you consider U.S. mercenaries U.S. military and because it was it was not considered part of a wider conflict.
Do you think we should not include it more, because it was accidental though? Historyguy1138 (talk) 17:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, this list is just for the overall wars. Individual attacks/military campaigns are listed at Attacks on the United States. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 18:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect. Thanks Weather Event Writer (: Historyguy1138 (talk) 18:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For anyone reading this the article Attacks on the United States is being updated. Historyguy1138 (talk) 02:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to draftspace: Draft:List of attacks on the United States. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 02:49, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Weather Event Writer Historyguy1138 (talk) 02:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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