Talk:List of presidents of India/Archive 1
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Education?
I don't see the need for this column in this list. If others see this, please comment. (I have posted a note at the userpage). Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 21:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hi,
I saw your reversion to the prior edit. Why did have to remove the education column? I think to have a proper understanding of the nature of the Indian presidency, the education column is a necessity. Look, their political affiliation is common knowledge. Everyone knows that the person who gets the maximum votes across party lines, eventually wins. So what? Must not the public have a right to know whether their president earned their degrees from? Even if a president is a rubber stamp, the common man needs to know the academic institutions that produced the rubber stamp president!! Must you deprive Patna University of all credit if Laloo Prasad Yadav becomes the president six years from now?!
Thanks,
Patoldanga'r Tenida 21:59, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- If someone wants to know the president's education, then can check that under the respective biography. We need to retain only the most relevant information here. Please see List of Presidents of the United States which is a FA. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 00:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- I have removed the birth place for the same reason. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
May be we should come up with something similar to this template. That would allow for the list to be sorted and stored in many ways and keep this main list simple. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 03:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I created the following articles:
There are many more red-links on this template. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 21:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Can you change Kalam being the first muslim President? he is infact the third. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raivikas (talk • contribs) 03:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
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Thank you for the new articles. Maybe they should be linked with the main article on President of India. Also I am not entirely sure that Giani Zail Singh went to Delhi University. Maybe the names of universities should be given only as the university and not the college awarded their respective degrees. I am not sure which university Govt. Arts College Anantapur was affiliated to at the time when NS Reddy studied there or of Sykes Law College when BD Jatti was a student. Also the degree awarded with year awarded could be put in separate columns.
Regards,
Patoldanga'r Tenida 19:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Pls correct the webpage.
- Moved from /Comments
Mrs Pratibha Patil is infact 12th President of India and not 13th as shown on your site.
The acting presidents and repat term presidents are not counted as new presidents.
Vivek Bhatt —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.64.74.115 (talk • contribs).
- There have been 13 presidential elections till date. The list is numbered according to the election which puts Prathiba Patil as the 13th President of India See [1]. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 20:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Now there have been 14th president of India. Mr. Ram Nath Kobind is the new president of Republic Of India. Anujc964 (talk) 11:51, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Party Affliation
Technically speaking the President of India is not affiliated to any political party. The party affiliation should be removed from the article.--Shahab 13:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- Party affiliation was sourced from www.worldstatesmen.org. If he/she belonged to a party, shouldn't the reader be informed? Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 07:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Pls correct the webpage.
If this is a list of presidents I think so Pratibha Patil should be numbered 12th but if it is a list of elections then it must be specified in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donrub (talk • contribs) 17:59, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
- I have added a note about this. Please see footnote #3. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 20:46, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
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Time Line
Hii,,,
- Why do two time lines represent the term of Pratibha Patil in the graph at the end of the page. it represents as if she was re-elected, but i don`t think so.. pls explain me!!!
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2nd para There have been 12 Presidents of India since the introduction of the post in 1950
the correct should be There have been 13 Presidents of India since the introduction of the post in 1950........it will be 13 and not 12. thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROCKY2020 (talk • contribs) 10:07, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Westan Pakistan refugees 1947 of India ( Jammu and Kashmir)
Their are more than 60 thousands of familes are living in Jammu region of Jammu and Kashmir of India . but India govt as well as J&K Govt could not accept tham . they are fighting last 67 years of independence nobody can do anything think you team research and write a article about this issue Sanjeev008 (talk) 15:06, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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NS Reddy is from Anantapur, Andhra Pradesh. Please correct so that it reflect 1 president from Andhra Pradesh. 3 presidents are from Tamil Nadu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsmyworld (talk • contribs) 13:55, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- He was born in what was then Madras Presidency thus it shows as Tamil Nadu. Adamgerber80 (talk) 01:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
That's very faulty reasoning. Then Madras province consisted of the whole of present day Andhra Pradesh. AP and Tamil Nadu would both be successor states to Madras just like how Indian Punjab, Pakistan Punjab and Haryana would be successor states to erstwhile Punjab Province. The source given in TOI also lists Neelam Sanjeevani Reddy under AP and not Tamil Nadu. Reo kwon (talk) 01:16, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Were four Presidents born in Tamil Nadu?
Only two Presidents were born in Tamil Nadu, but the map shows four. Gopalan evr (talk) 03:18, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- It refers to undivided Madras state. Adamgerber80 (talk) 01:10, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
It's undivided Madras state, not Tamil Nadu. The present state of Andhra Pradesh was fully a part of that province. It that were the case then V.V.Giri should also be attributed to Tamil Nadu as his place of birth Berhampur was in Madras province at that time. Reo kwon (talk) 01:29, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Image of Presidents' states is wrong
Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy was born in Anantapur district in present day Andhra Pradesh. There is no way he should be attributed to Tamil Nadu. Even the source TOI attributes him to Andhra.
Also, don't feel having this kind of an infographic is helpful. Most of the pre-independence born Presidents are born in provinces which are not based on linguistic lines and some have spent most part of their lives in a state other than their birth state. And so the map may not be reflective of their ethnicity or the state they actually represented. Reo kwon (talk) 01:24, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
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edit request on 31 May 2020
{{List of presidents of India|answered=yes}}
Abh Ka (talk) 00:50, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not done Please explain exactly what changes you would like made to this article. Vanamonde (Talk) 01:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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List
The key shows two symbols: a dagger (†) that shows the President died in office, and an inverted dagger that shows the President resigned. The dagger is shown against F A Ahmed — but the inverted dagger doesn't appear against any name ... so why is it shown? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 10:36, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
Please upload the photo of B D Jati Mohammad Ridwan Daing (talk) 03:06, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Removal of Previous power/office(s) of the Presidents, which is relevant to the information
Hello! Good Evening I had brought in some new information about the previous offices held by the respective Presidents of India. This information would help all users in gaining information and knowledge about the career background of the Presidents. This edit was reverted User:DaxServer stating the irrelevance of the information. I do feel that these knowledge would help Indian community to gain more political awareness and understanding. Hence I request that I would re-edit the same relevant information back into the table. Thank you Souryadeep630 (talk) 04:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
User:DaxServer Souryadeep630 (talk) 04:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- I still don't see why it's relevant here in this article. Looking at the FA-promoted version [2], I see a notes column. It was modified [3] and removed eventually [4]. I intend to restore it to the original version as in the first link. Or you can do that if you are interested. — DaxServer (t · c) 08:34, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
The notes column is totally not needed as the same huge information about a president would be unnecessary, unlike the precise background information about their previous powers, thereby giving an idea to users about the previois fields and experience of the president. That was all the intention Souryadeep630 (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Souryadeep630 You can post at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics to ask for comments from more editors — DaxServer (t · c) 12:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi @DaxServer I'm sorry but as rightly you mentioned "Or you can do that if you are interested", I posted the previous edit. Can I please know if there is any harm if the same is published in the new column without objections. Thank you — Souryadeep630 (talk) 17:18, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @Souryadeep630, it looks like there is a misunderstanding. I was talking about the notes from the FA-promoted version. I've anyway self-reverted, I just don't have the enthusiasm and time right now to deal with this article. Just a note: the Featured articles or Featured lists are high quality articles produced by the community and we intend to keep them at such quality and standards. This article probably needs some more care anyway. Hope you do the necessary updates. I still suggest inviting others from Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics for article improvements. Good luck with editing, hope you enjoy it! Thanks for your edits :) — DaxServer (t · c) 18:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
@DaxServer Those are kind and encouraging words. Thank You :-)
Souryadeep630 (talk) 20:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Souryadeep630, I agree with Dax. This is quite unnecessary. All that information on career background is already available in the articles on the respective persons and is just a click away. Repetition from individual articles makes the table unwieldy while adding nothing of value. Hemantha (talk) 04:48, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi @User:Hemantha, Fine but all the information in the table is available in the individual articles too, just away from a click. What I feel is on a table the precise and handy information must be available for users. If any user needs any precise background information of several presidents, all the info would be available at a single click in this very table. This column has also been present in list of governors of states. Thank you Souryadeep630 (talk) 05:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Open it in mobile (or use this link) and see how it looks. There is no need to bloat the table any more than necessary. I've removed it since you agree information is available easily elsewhere. Hemantha (talk) 11:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
@User:Hemantha I'm sorry, this is unjust removal of some hardly worked and researched information. You have also just stated removal of information on agreement which i'm unaware of. This just saddens and discourages editors of their work and contributions to wikipedia. Do you also tend to remove columns from these governors link1 and governors link2 stating it as irrelevant. Souryadeep630 (talk) 15:06, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Souryadeep630, Two people have disagreed with you about the usefulness of this. The next step is to get third opinions or use RfCs. What you are doing is borderline edit war. Hemantha (talk) 13:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Hemantha I can see you have avoided the question on governors link above. Would you delete all such columns present in almost all articles Souryadeep630 (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
DaxServer brought the column back as present now, after some discussions, and you brought your views which is fair. So there is one opposition from your side about relevance. We can take it RfCs right now before bringing in further deletion or changes. Souryadeep630 (talk) 13:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- No, not responding to irrelevant points isn't avoiding. Those are less watched, non-FL lists which aren't models and are full of unnecessary cruft. Holding up some other bloated list as a model seems to indicate lack of proper basis for your changes. Your continued mis-characterisation of others' actions is stretching my AGF quite thin. Hemantha (talk) 13:48, 11 March 2022 (UTC)