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"No Road Home"

Should Rocket be a member? Should Voyager be a real member and not just an impostor? john k (talk) 04:11, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Modified Character Notes Description

Hey, I was pretty shocked that no one thought about where or what certain members are now-- for instance, the Enter the Phoenix saga, where Echo ended up becoming the new host of the Phoenix Force. And Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr), Nova (Richard Rider) and Moondragon being current members of the Guardians of the Galaxy. All of this is as of 2021, and I made a little contribution with that. The only one I didn't modify is Venom on the Savage Avengers, because I don't know an awful lot about the King in Black storyline. If there's anyone that has read it, please modify it. IronKnight374 (talk) 03:50, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Iron Man is Dead

Iron Man is bolded in the article but he is dead as shown in Avengers:Endgame. So, does he need to be unbolded or remain like so because he died as a member of the avengers? PrathuCoder (talk) 14:42, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

This article is about the comics, not the MCU. InfiniteNexus (talk) 07:35, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

No pictures

My 5-year-old nephew was very angry about this page. “This is dumb. Why are there no pictures? How do I recognize them without pictures?!” He knows the pages can be edited, so he told me to add pictures, but I explained I’m not an Avengers expert, so I don’t know them to add pictures. So then he wanted me to tell someone so they would fix it. Please take this as feedback from the illiterate segment of Wikipedia users. AristosM (talk) 23:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

@AristosM: The pictures will in almost every case be in copyright, either to Marvel or to individual artists. There are very limited circumstances in which a copyrighted image can be used on Wikipedia, but to do so has to satisfy all these criteria for legal reasons, and it's hard to see how they would apply here. (Yes, other websites rip off images all the time without getting in trouble, but Wikipedia is the sixth most popular website in the world. If we violate Disney's copyright it's significant enough for them to take action.) ‑ Iridescent 06:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
@Iridescent I do not believe this is factually correct. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/copyright Many of the characters could be illustrated just from legal cover art of issues in which the characters appear. There's enough discussion of fair use on that page to allow illustrating the characters in thumbnail form. AristosM (talk) 05:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
That page doesn't say what you think it says. Unless the covers have passed into the public domain—which is unlikely to be the case except for the oldest comics—then using crops from covers is no different to using images from inside the comic books, and still falls under fair use. Thus every image used will need an accompanying rationale explaining point-by-point how it meets each aspect of WP:NFCCP. For a list like this it would be virtually impossible to meet the criteria without falling foul of Marvel's lawyers; at most we could maybe get away with a single low-resolution group image of the Avengers. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously in all cases, but especially so when it comes to a company like Disney which is notoriously zealous when it comes to guarding their IP rights. ‑ Iridescent 09:44, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Marvel's lawyers are absolutely not going to sue Wikipedia for using thumbnails, come on. Wikipedia has its policies, but there's no reason to pretend like there's some urgent real world need for this. ETA: It looks to me like images here would in fact perfectly well qualify under all the criteria you link. john k (talk) 02:52, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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