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Avengers Idea Mechanics
[edit]This lists several people joining in Avengers Vol. 5 39, who are not in that issue, E.G. Magneto, Him, Spider-Girl, Black Cat.
I can find no reference of them joining during "Time runs out" or any other time. 72.85.25.238 (talk) 19:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Inclusion criteria
[edit]Some inclusion criteria for being in the main article isn't made clear - in three ways. 1) There is no reason given for what S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Secret Avengers aren't on this list. I'm assuming they're in a similar situation as the "Not officially sanctioned Avengers teams" section but they aren't there either. I think the new Avengers Inc. is in a similar spot as well. 2) Is there a reason that liaisons like Maria Hill (in Avengers Vol. 5), Monica Chang (in Avengers A.I.), and Agent 13 (in Secret Avengers Vol. 1) are not listed here? Are they not considered full members, and if that's the case, is there a reference for that? And 3) Why is the Phoenix Force listed as a separate member because it possessed Maya Lopez when she rejoined the team, but the Venom symbiote and the Spirit of Vengeance aren't listed separately? Personally I think it would make more sense if the Phoenix Force is only mentioned under Maya Lopez's entry and not separately. 39hints (talk) 17:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- @39hints, It seems "Not officially sanctioned Avengers teams" section is removed as well as Phoenix Force's entry. Monica Chang and Agent 13 are not included because they were liaison (S.H.I.E.L.D.) to the team and not the members, just like how liaisons (government and U.N.) were not included like Henry Gyrich and Raymond Sikorski. Littlesquirrell (talk) 11:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Aleta
[edit]Aleta was not present with the Guardians during issue 168 (or that entire storyline, for that matter) so was never given honorary membership status.SloppyDisc (talk) 13:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Aleta is considered as honorary member of the Avengers in many official handbooks of Marvel. Just like Captain Marvel isn't shown to be honorary member in comics but he was mentioned in handbooks. Also Aleta did appeared in issue #168. Crampsteed (talk) 08:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Aleta was not in #168 of 'Avengers' but, your point about handbooks does have merit so...Please don't lie about appearances in the future, though. It's just something valid editors shy away from. SloppyDisc (talk) 23:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @SloppyDisc, Please see page 8-9, specifically right after Hawkeye and Two-Gun Kid's scene, I'm sure you'll find her. Crampsteed (talk) 01:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- OH, yes, there she is. Thank you so much!SloppyDisc (talk) 22:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @SloppyDisc, Please see page 8-9, specifically right after Hawkeye and Two-Gun Kid's scene, I'm sure you'll find her. Crampsteed (talk) 01:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Aleta was not in #168 of 'Avengers' but, your point about handbooks does have merit so...Please don't lie about appearances in the future, though. It's just something valid editors shy away from. SloppyDisc (talk) 23:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Why was the list alphabetized?
[edit]Why are pages like this going alphabetical for founding members instead of how this used to be, it drives me nuts 172.92.121.145 (talk) 00:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Such as why are we going alphabetical instead of chronological for founding members 172.92.121.145 (talk) 00:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The founding members all joined in the same issue, so I'm not sure what "chronological" order you are referring to here. Alpha order is the default for this type of list table. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not to mention they joined at the same time/panel as the formation of the team, even if some members responded to the threat of Loki in different order. Crampsteed (talk) 16:45, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, they all did just show up in one instance and just named themselves, its just somehow, the original felt more right,though it might been based on popularity 172.92.102.171 (talk) 02:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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