Talk:Jesse Puljujärvi

Jesse Puljujärvi was nominated as a Sports and recreation good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (October 28, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

Jesse Puljujärvi was nominated as a Sports and recreation good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 7, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Updates needed

Need further details including from the end of the 2017-18 season onward. Spiffulent (talk) 03:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jesse Puljujärvi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 23:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Prose

Lede

General

Uncited material:

Puljujärvi scored 12 goals and 28 points in 39 regular season games.

He led the team in points and goals and shared the top spot in assists with Juho Lammikko. In the entire SM-liiga leaderboard, he was in a shared fourth place with Tappara's Kristian Kuusela, until the SM-liiga season was ended due to the COVID-19 pandemic after the penultimate round of the regular season. In the Champions Hockey League, Puljujärvi was the Kärpät's best scorer with Michal Krištof and Jakub Krejčík with four points.

The whole statistics section

The whole awards section

Could you cite these bits before I go any further? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:45, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I beleive that I have fixed the problems now. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 18:30, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Poriman55 and @Lee Vilenski, reminder ping! -- asilvering (talk) 16:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Without any responses to the below, I'd have to fail this one. I'll give the nom a couple more days after this ping and I'll close. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Vilenski, it's been another couple of weeks. As best I can tell, Poriman55, though active elsewhere, has not edited the article since 16 February when they made a single edit that changed "ice ball" to "bandy". BlueMoonset (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's fine. Sadly I'll fail this now. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is "ice ball"? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Puljujärvi moved to Oulu alone - where? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
in the C-junior team - the what? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Puljujärvi strengthened the C-youth in the playoffs - what does this mean? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
he became one of the key players in his team^{[according to whom?]} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
managed to score - just say "scored". Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the NHL scouting office listed Puljujärvi in second place among players playing in Europe - for what? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Probably need to link "draft" 'Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He opted to wear sweater no. 98 with the team, making him the first NHL player to do so since 1985, when Brian Lawton wore the number in a regular season game.[25] But he later chose to change his number to no. 13 for the 2020–21 season.[citation needed] - why is this important? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather we said "played X minutes", rather than "got X minutes of ice team". Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Puljujärvi managed to play - any time you see Managed to, it's probably not suitable. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Puljujärvi was dealt by the Oilers to the Carolina Hurricanes - he was what?Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some ^{[citation needed]} tags to fix. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
learned to straighten his playing to suit the small rink - do what? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review meta comments

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

Closing due to nominator unavailability, without prejudice to renomination. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jesse Puljujärvi/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Poriman55 (talk · contribs) 11:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 19:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article using the template below. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them here. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First thing to do - I'll check that issues brought up in the first GA review have been addressed. After that I'll dive into the table below. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Poriman55, can you confirm that you are around and available to make changes in response to comments? Thanks! Without that, it'll be tough to move forward. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:58, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here! I will make changes if needed and I'm not busy. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 19:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Have all the issues raised by the first GA review been addressed? —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:52, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think so. It is possible that i have missed something, but I will correct the mistakes if something comes up. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 07:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! I have a few things going on right now, but should be able to complete the first run-through of the review by Sunday evening. My apologies for the delay. —Ganesha811 (talk) 17:02, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will fix the problem with the authors when I'm not busy. I beleive Iltalehti and Jatkoaika are reliable sources. Elite prospects is also widely accepted as a reliable source for statistics. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 18:10, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain a little more about each of these? Have there been prior discussions on Wikipedia about them? Widely accepted by whom? Thanks. —Ganesha811 (talk) 19:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elite Prospects used to be listed on the ice hockey wikiproject page as a reliable source, but the list has since been removed. Jatkoaika is written by volunteers, but many of them are also "real" journalists. It's hard to explain why Iltalehti is reliable, but in my experience it is similar to any other newspaper. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 20:15, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And about Jatkoaika, even though it is written by volunteers, a normal person cant just write there like on wikipedia. You have to have a background as a writer. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 20:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think for Elite Prospects, it shouldn't be too hard to replace with another stats source, so we can remove that and replace it. I'm also not very comfortable with Jatkoaika, based on what you say and a little more digging - let's see if we can excise those citations and find replacements where needed. Iltalehti looks fine. Please let me know when you've had a chance to fix these and the other issues described below. Thank you! —Ganesha811 (talk) 21:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Poriman55, let me know when these issues are addressed. Otherwise the review will likely have to be closed in the next few days. —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I am currently very busy because of unexpected things not related to Wikipedia. I don't have the time right now or even in the next few days. Thanks for your time though. 37.33.128.209 (talk) 08:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming this is Poriman - if it's not, Poriman55, please let me know. Understandable - I will close the review without prejudice tomorrow evening. Feel free to ping me if you renominate the article, and happy editing! —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
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	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Iltalehti is apparently a tabloid. Would you regard them as reliable? The Oulun Kärpät link just goes to the team's home page, not anything specific. The 2016 Draft Prospect Rankings link is dead - please fix and add an archive link if possible. Is eliteprospects.com a reliable source? Is Jatkoaika a reliable source? Apparently it's written largely by volunteers. Many articles (such as #41, Jesse Puljujärven erikoinen leikkaus herätti huomiota Pohjois-Amerikassa) are missing author names - please add these for all missing. The championshockeyleague.com stats page is not linking correctly - it's showing 2021-22 stats now. Fix and add archive link. Is Yardbarker reliable? Seems to be a blog repository among other things. #75 (CBC news) is poorly formatted and needs fixing.
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Earwig picks up nothing egregious, hold for manual spot check.
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	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
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