Talk:Eshmunazar I

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:22, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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• ... was also a priest of Astarte? Source: Jidejian, Nina (1971). Sidon through the ages. Beirut: Dar el-Machreq. (p.268)
  • ALT1:... that the Phoenician King Tabnit of Sidon, the son and successor of Eshmunazar I, wed his sister Amoashtart?

Source: Elayi, Josette (2006). "An updated chronology of the reigns of Phoenician kings during the Persian period (539–333 BCE)" (PDF). Digitorient. Collège de France – UMR7912 (p.5)

• • ALT2:... that Eshmunazar I, the Phoenician king of Sidon, participated in the Neo-Babylonian campaigns against Egypt where he seized stone sarcophagi belonging to members of the Egyptian elite?

- Source 1: Elayi, Josette (2013). Histoire de la Phénicie [The history of Phoenicia] (in French). Paris: Perrin. ISBN 9782262043254

- Source 2: Versluys, Miguel John (2010). "Understanding Egypt In Egypt And Beyond". In Bricault, Laurent (ed.). Isis on the Nile. Egyptian Gods in Hellenistic and Roman Egypt - Proceedings of the IVth International Conference of Isis Studies, Liège, November 27-29, 2008 : Michel Malaise in honorem. Religions in the Graeco-Roman world, 171. Leiden: Brill. pp. 7–36. doi:10.1163/EJ.9789004188822.I-364.10. ISBN 9789004210868. S2CID 56027286 (pp.7–14)

Created by Elias Ziade (talk). Self-nominated at 09:15, 5 July 2021 (UTC).that Eshmunazar I, the Phoenician king of Sidon,

• Seem to be a few cite errors - suggest you try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Trappist_the_monk/HarvErrors Chidgk1 (talk) 09:03, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Chidgk1 This tool is EVERYTHIIIING! Thank you.... el.ziade (talkallam) 10:45, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

• Hook not very hooky. Dunno if we want to mention the incest? Maybe something about "seized Egyptian stone sarcophagi belonging to members of the Egyptian elite; three of these sarcophagi were unearthed in the royal necropolis of Sidon." might be more interesting hook?

I hope these work. el.ziade (talkallam) 08:15, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

• Not mandatory but you might like to add a short description

Done el.ziade (talkallam) 08:15, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

• QPQ?

I have reviewed the DYKN of Lucia_of_Segniel.ziade (talkallam) 08:15, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

• Checked for copyvio with Earwig - no probs

Chidgk1 I have gone over the article as you suggested. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do.el.ziade (talkallam) 08:15, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I think we could make a snappier and more hooky hook. So do we know for sure if he used one of the sarcophagi himself?Chidgk1 (talk) 15:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Chidgk1 Well his is either not located yet, or is one of the unmarked sarcophagi at Topkapı. One plain unfinished and un-engraved sarcophagus is presumed to have housed Amatashtart but we can't know that for sure. It may as well be the sarcophagus of Eshmunazar. Both cases are conjectures until new evidence surface. el.ziade (talkallam) 05:45, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

ok both hooks approved - you choose Chidgk1 (talk) 08:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Vami IV (talk · contribs) 07:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Ealdgyth (talk · contribs) 14:48, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

I'll get to this in the next few days. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:48, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• Lead:
  • "command of Nebuchadnezzar II or Nabonidus." is Nabonidus an alternate name for Nebuchadnezzar II or is "command of either Nebuchadnezzar II or Nabonidus." meant?
  • "The king is mentioned in the funerary inscriptions" which king? The last kings mentioned are Nebuchadnezzar II and/or Nabodidus.
• Chronology:
  • "Elayi used all the available documentation of the time" this is ambiguous ... does it mean "all the available documentation of Elayi's time" or "all the available documentation of Eshmunazar's time"?
  • "Sidonian coins which were the first coins to bear minting dates in antiquity based on the years of reign of the Sidonian kings" I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean - it's very confused.
• Reign:
  • "unlike the royal customs of the Phoenician royalty" redundant - suggest either "unlike the royal of Phoenician royalty" or "unlike the royal customs of Phoenicia"
  • "command of Nebuchadnezzar II or Nabonidus." is Nabonidus an alternate name for Nebuchadnezzar II or is "command of either Nebuchadnezzar II or Nabonidus." meant?
  • "The king seized Egyptian stone sarcophagi" again, which king? The last kings mentioned are Nebuchadnezzar II and/or Nabodidus.
• I randomly googled three phrases and only turned up Wikipedia mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no sign of copyright violation.
• Spot checks:
  • "Sidon, which was a flourishing and independent Phoenician city-state, came under Mesopotamian occupation in the ninth century BC. The Assyrian king Ashurnasirpal II (883–859 BC) conquered the Lebanon mountain range and its coastal cities, including Sidon." is sourced to this source p. 651 which supports the information.
  • "After the Achaemenid conquest in 529 BC, Phoenicia was divided into four vassal kingdoms: Sidon, Tyre, Byblos and Arwad." is sourced to this source p. 156 which supports the information.

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:05, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the review @Ealdgyth: el.ziade (talkallam) 21:07, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

These changes look good. Sorry for the delay - I had a big winter storm come across us and was busy with that... passing this now. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)