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– This is an extension of the discussion on Talk:Parramatta Light Rail. New L4 light rail stops have opened at the locations of the closed railway stations along the former Carlingford line. I just want to get a consensus on whether to convert the articles into light rail stop articles, while retaining its history and former heavy rail services.

Melbourne had a prior history of converting heavy rail stations to light rail stops. Examples are St Kilda light rail station, South Melbourne light rail station, Albert Park light rail station, Middle Park light rail station, Montague Street light rail station. In particular Beacon Cove light rail station is most similar to Rosehill Gardens, with a change in station name.

User:Willthorpe has jumped the gun and converted the Dundas article to a light rail stop article, but I think what they have done is a reasonable template to follow. Dundas is unique in that it is the only former railway station on the Carlingford line where the station building is heritage listed and retained during the conversion to light rail. Marcnut1996 (talk) 10:18, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcnut1996 I have changed 'stop' to 'station' in all the proposed moves, following the precedent set by Melbourne and Canberra. I would suggest that Dundas is a little different than the rest of them in that it retains part of the old structure as well as the original name.

If the other stops are to be covered, at least for the ones that don't retain the same name, perhaps they ought to be as their own articles or as subsections of articles on the original stations. Articles for each light rail station I believe were rejected a while ago for the Inner West Light Rail; I can see why that might have been so, whilst also noting that in Canberra each station does have an article. The question is: will giving each station its own article improve our coverage?

So, in short, I support renaming the Dundas station article, but I am unresolved on what to do about the rest of the stations; I think they either ought to be covered within subsections of the articles on the original stations, or they ought to get their own articles – in which case so should every other light rail station in Sydney.

Anyway, Merry Christmas! Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 12:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I look at Montague Street light rail station, I think it is the most applicable in terms of what to do for the rest of the Carlingford Line stations i.e. not Dundas, as in both cases – unlike Dundas – none of the original structure remains.

Still, if we decide to rename the rest of the articles, I think we should at least consider whether to create unique articles for other Sydney light rail stations. Sydney's light rail system is much more like Canberra's than Melbourne's tram system.

I'm aware this may have become convoluted, so to surmise I suggest three potential avenues for the stations except for Dundas, which I am sure should be renamed:

a) Rename the articles, in which case articles for other light rail stations should be considered

b) Create new articles, in which case other light rail stations should get their own articles

c) Cover the light rail stations as sub-sections of the articles whilst keeping their current names

In view of the precedents of Melbourne and Canberra, I now lean toward renaming the articles, and I still definitely support renaming the Dundas article. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 12:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gold Coast light rail stations also have their own articles. Will Thorpe (talk) 12:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Willthorpe: You can’t just change MY suggestions like that. I had to revert your edit to my original suggestion. You will need to propose renaming to light rail station in your own comment or reply, signed with your own username. Marcnut1996 (talk) 23:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Easy, mate! I didn’t suppose you’d have any issue with it. It achieves the same end, just follows an established convention. Will Thorpe (talk) 03:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, just writing “rename to light rail station” and bold the wording will be sufficient. Marcnut1996 (talk) 23:44, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]