Talk:Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News Network

Title should be "Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News Network"

Per WP:LAWMOS, Bluebook style should be followed. There's no reason to leave off "Voting Systems". Brad (talk) 23:00, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

There are three Dominion plaintiffs, one of which does not have "voting systems" in its name. Their only commonality is "Dominion." That's why I hedged on the title, but if there's a consensus to change it, that's fine. soibangla (talk) 03:27, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, they're consolidated - Bluebook style is to use the first name. Brad (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

@DividedFrame: It appears that first-named plaintiff is actually "US Dominion". At least that's how it's listed as the "Full Case Name" in the infobox. Edge3 (talk) 02:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

I would not be opposed to a change Brad (talk) 02:31, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

It's a tough call, whether to be formally legalistic or practical, but at this point I'd choose the status quo. soibangla (talk) 02:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Sources for Dominion v. Fox News Network

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that describe Fox News as a "fake news", "propaganda", and "not news" network.

What this is all about

Internal documents and communications reveal that Fox News hosts did not believe there was election fraud, and they believed Biden won the 2020 election. In spite of this they decided to keep lying to viewers.

Everyone, including the news team, was affected:

1. top brass backed decision to keep lying;
   
2. news team not allowed to contradict false claims;
   
3. internal fact-checkers were threatened;
   
4. all for ratings, Trump's approval, and to retain their far-right base.

Key Murdoch admissions.

Here are Murdoch's key deposition admissions about the case:

• Murdoch seriously doubted the claims of “massive election fraud from the very beginning.”
• Fox News gave a platform to conspiracy peddlers like Mike Lindell in order to make more money because, according to Murdoch, what matters “is not red or blue, it is green.”[*]
• Murdoch had the power to stop Fox News from airing false claims but affirmatively chose not to, saying “I could have. But I did not.”
• Perhaps most importantly, Murdoch admitted that some of the top hosts on Fox News had actively endorsed these false claims on the air.

Many of these admissions support “actual malice” by Fox News. [*]

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See also

• Big lie#Donald Trump's false claims of a stolen election
• Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News
• Dominion Voting Systems#Defamation lawsuit against Fox News
• Fox News#2020 election fraud allegations
• Fox News controversies#False claims about the 2020 election
• Maria Bartiromo
• Tucker Carlson
• Tucker Carlson Tonight
• Lou Dobbs
• Rudy Giuliani
• Sean Hannity
• Laura Ingraham
• Mike Lindell
• Rupert Murdoch
• MyPillow
• One America News Network#Dominion Voting Systems
• Jeanine Pirro
• Sidney Powell
• Suzanne Scott
• Donald Trump
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Fox News Knew It Was A Lie: Fox News Purposely Pushed Deception On 2020 Voting

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1. Dominion Voting Machines Drops A Second Bombshell Filing Against Fox News - Second Nexus
2. Rupert Murdoch Did Not Say 'It Is Not Red or Blue, It Is Green' - Mediaite
3. January 17, 2022. Dominion's Brief in Support of Its Motion for Summary Judgment on Liability of Fox News Network
4. February 8, 2022. Dominion's Brief in Support of Its Motion for Summary Judgment on Liability of Fox News Network
5. Fox's Murdoch called election fraud claims a 'Trump myth,' Toronto's Dominion says in court filing - CBC
6. Fox News hosts thought Trump’s election fraud claims were 'total BS', court filings show - The Guardian
7. Fox knew vote rigging claims were false, Dominion says, as network defends coverage - Reuters
8. Off the air, Fox News stars blasted the election fraud claims they peddled - NPR
9. Lawsuit filing shows Fox hosts didn't believe election fraud lies they pushed on TV - PBS NewsHour
10. Fox News hosts, execs privately doubted 2020 conspiracy claims shared on air - The Washington Post
11. Fox Stars Privately Expressed Disbelief About Trump's Election Fraud Claims - The New York Times
12. Fox News hosts doubted 2020 election fraud claims off camera as they promoted them on air - Los Angeles Times
13. Five top revelations from Dominion's explosive court filing in Fox News lawsuit - The Hill
14. Fox News hosts called 2020 election fraud 'total BS' in private, new Dominion court filing says - ABC News
15. Fox News stars and staffers privately blasted election fraud claims as bogus, court filing shows - NBC News
16. Fox News hosts, Rupert Murdoch were skeptical of Trump election fraud claims - CNBC
17. Fox News hosts didn't believe 2020 election fraud claims, $1.6 billion Dominion defamation suit asserts - CBS News
18. Fox News executives refused to let Trump on-air when he called in during January 6 attack, Dominion says - CNN
19. Analysis: Fox News has been exposed as a dishonest organization terrified of its own audience - CNN
20. Fox News' split screen spills into view - Politico
21. They Knew It Was A Lie: Fox News Purposely Pushed Deception On 2020 Voting - The National Memo
22. I Never Truly Understood Fox News Until Now - The Atlantic
23. Why Fox News Lied to Its Viewers - The Atlantic
24. Tucker Carlson's Dominion Text Messages Are a Thing of Beauty - Slate
25. Fox stars privately bashed election fraud claims the network pushed - Axios
26. Fox News Lied to Viewers to Keep Them From Fleeing, According to Dominion Suit - Variety
27. CNN's Oliver Darcy: Leaked Messages In Dominion Lawsuit 'Expose Fox News As A Propaganda Network' - Forbes
28. A juicy new legal filing reveals who really controls Fox News - Vox
29. Dominion voting case exposes post-election fear at Fox News - Associated Press
30. Fox News feared losing viewers by airing truth about election, documents show - The Washington Post
31. The 'wackadoodle' foundation of Fox News' election-fraud claims - NPR
32. It could take a decade to undo damage to the Republican Party caused by Fox News promoting election fraud claims, says former GOP official - Business Insider
33. Amid Fox Election Scandal, Rising Calls On Twitter To Deport Rupert Murdoch - The National Memo
34. Tucker Carlson and Fox News Knew Election Fraud Claims Were Bogus - Mother Jones
35. The Internal Decapitation of Fox News - The Nation
36. Fox News deceives its viewers. These text messages prove it. - MSNBC
37. Court Lets Lawsuit Against Fox News Move Forward—Here's Where Dominion And Smartmatic's Defamation Suits Stand Now - Forbes
38. Filings in Dominion lawsuit reveal that Fox News hosts had concerns about 2020 election fraud claims - Pew Research Center
39. Fox hosts doubted Trump's false claims of election fraud, court filings show - The Philadelphia Inquirer
40. Tucker Carlson Calls Trump 'Demonic Force' in New Legal Filing - Rolling Stone
41. Dominion Voting Case Exposes Post-Election Fear at Fox News - U.S. News & World Report
42. Tucker Carlson's Sad, Final Days on Fox News; Dominion Lawsuit May Deliver Fatal Blow - The New York Independent
43. Fox News texts, emails "nightmare fuel" for lawyers: Legal expert - Newsweek
44. Hogan: Conservative leaders would privately agree election wasn't stolen, but 'go out and say complete opposite' - The Hill
45. The big news in Dominion’s defamation suit is why Fox kept up the Big Lie - The Colorado Sun
46. O'Reilly on Fox News lawsuit: 'I would never sell out for ratings' - The Hill
47. What the Dominion lawsuit reveals about the future of Fox News - Columbia Journalism Review
48. Why Fox News' lies about Trump's defeat probably aren't protected by the 1st Amendment - Los Angeles Times
49. Fox News Hosts, Executives Raised Concerns About 2020 Election-Fraud Claims Made on the Air, Filing Shows - The Wall Street Journal
50. Fox News texts reveal the truth: The Big Lie was a con - Salon
51. How Dominion Voting Systems filing proves Fox News was 'deliberately lying' - The Guardian
52. John Oliver Blasts Fox News Channel After Court Filing Shows Hosts Didn’t Believe 2020 Election Fraud Claims - The Hollywood Reporter
53. It's official, America: Fox News is a farce - MSNBC
54. Fox Claims It Had To Report 'MINDBLOWINGLYNUTS' Kraken Lies About Dominion For 'News Value' - Above the Law
55. "Our Viewers…Believe It": What Fox News Execs and Stars Were Really Thinking While the Network Boosted Donald Trump's Election Lies - Vanity Fair
56. Fox News 2020 Election Coverage Decisions Demonstrate that Demand for Misinformation is a Bigger Problem than the Supply - Reason
57. Lou Dobbs is the main obstacle to Fox's defamation defense - Reason
58. 'Crazy.' 'Nuts.' Six wild revelations from the Fox News defamation case - Los Angeles Times
59. Off camera, Fox hosts doubted 2020 election fraud claims - Oregon Public Broadcasting
60. Fox News Exposed for Deliberately Spewing Toxic Lies to Their Audience - Between the Lines
61. Compare the election-fraud claims Fox News aired with what its stars knew - NPR
62. What did Fox News bigwigs really think about Trump's fraudulent election claims? - Poynter Institute
63. Fox News Hosts Did Not Believe 2020 Election Fraud Claims, Court Filing States - AllSides
64. Dominion voting case exposes post-election fear at Fox News - Houston Chronicle
65. 'It's a major blow': Dominion has uncovered 'smoking gun' evidence in case against Fox News, legal experts say - CNN
66. Will a $1.6bn defamation lawsuit finally stop Fox News from spreading lies? - The Guardian
67. Fox News' Howard Kurtz says company won't let him cover Dominion voting case - The Hill
68. Fox News Star Says Network Won't Let Him Cover Fox-Dominion Lawsuit - The Daily Beast
69. Fox News Anchor Says Network Is Barring Him From Covering The Dominion Lawsuit - HuffPost
70. Inside the Fox News Sausage Factory - The Freedom Academy with Asha Rangappa
71. Murdoch Acknowledges Fox News Hosts Endorsed Election Fraud Falsehoods - The New York Times
72. JUST IN: Bombshell Filing Shows Fox Anchor Got REAMED Over 'Anti-Trump' Coverage From Top Down - Mediaite
73. Fox's Murdoch Admits Some Fox Hosts 'Endorsed' False Election Claims in Dominion Deposition - Variety
74. Fox board member Paul Ryan told Murdoch the network shouldn't be spreading 2020 lies - Raw Story
75. Fox chief Rupert Murdoch said network aired 2020 election conspiracies for the money: court documents - Raw Story
76. The day before Jan. 6 attack, top Fox execs discussed whether to make primetime hosts dispel election lies - Raw Story
77. Former FBI counsel thinks Dominion's lawsuit looks solid - and Fox has a very difficult road ahead - Raw Story
78. Rupert Murdoch says Fox News hosts endorsed false election fraud claims - BBC News
79. Rupert Murdoch testified that Fox News hosts 'endorsed' stolen election narrative - The Guardian
80. The Root of Fake News Is the Corporate Lust for Profit in Media - Jacobin
81. Trump Rages At Murdoch Over New Fox News Revelations: 'Killing His Case And Infuriating His Viewers' - Mediaite
82. The 10 biggest revelations from Dominion's explosive Fox News legal filing -- CNN
83. Stunning Rupert Murdoch deposition leaves Fox News in a world of trouble - The Guardian
84. Trump Melts Down Over Murdoch Admitting Fox Lied About Election Fraud - Rolling Stone
85. Murdoch testified Fox News hosts endorsed idea that Biden stole election - Reuters
86. What we learned from the latest Fox News-Dominion case filing - NBC News
87. Fox News Described As Rattled By Dominion Lawsuit - PoliticusUSA
88. Schumer, Jeffries pressure Murdoch, Fox News over Trump's false election fraud claims - CNBC
89. Fox News is NOT news. Claytoonz, Episode 2025. No-News News. - Claytoonz
90. Rupert Murdoch says Fox stars 'endorsed' lies about 2020. He chose not to stop them - NPR
91. Murdoch testified Fox News hosts endorsed idea that Biden stole election - Reuters
92. How strong is Dominion's defamation case against Fox News? Legal experts weigh in - Los Angeles Times
93. Top Fox News anchor says the company has banned coverage of the Dominion lawsuit that revealed how Tucker Carlson and other Fox stars privately dismissed election conspiracy theories while peddling them on air. - Business Insider
94. To fight defamation suit, Fox News cites election conspiracy theories - The Washington Post
95. Fox executives should be fired for 'proven misconduct' exposed in Dominion lawsuit, renowned Yale professor says - CNN
96. Fox case shows how fake news makes money, but peddling lies can be costly - Chicago Tribune
97. Top Democrats push Fox News to stop promoting "propaganda" about 2020 election - CBS News
98. Murdoch, exposed - Popular Information
99. Trump Fumes Over 'Scared' Murdoch's Bombshell Admissions In Lawsuit - The National Memo
100. Dominion Lawsuit May Lead To Action Against Culpable Fox Board Members - The National Memo
101. Fox News election fraud revelations could take down the network's embattled chief - CNN
102. Dominion Lawsuit Revelations Are Getting Harder for Fox to Ignore - Vanity Fair
103. Conservative Media Pay Little Attention to Revelations About Fox News - The New York Times
104. Fox Corp. and the Trump campaign hit with FEC complaints over Dominion revelations - NBC News
105. The Dominion Lawsuit Pulls Back The Curtain On Fox News. It's Not Pretty. - NPR
106. 'Really crazy stuff': Rupert Murdoch trashed Rudy Giuliani's election theories, unsealed filing in Fox News suit reveals - Law & Crime
107. 18 Most Popular Conservative Media Outlets Ignored Fox News Revelations - TheWrap
108. Fox News is fighting an uphill legal battle over its 2020 election coverage and even founder Rupert Murdoch distances himself from the denialism - Fortune
109. Analysis - Fox News Is Trapped by Its Own Zealotry - The Washington Post
110. Fox News has implemented a 'soft ban' on Donald Trump and is avoiding putting him on air, report says - Business Insider
111. Inside the Panic at Fox News After the 2020 Election - The New York Times
112. Podcast: Why Election Denialism Might Cost Fox News $1.6 Billion - The New York Times
113. Off the air, Fox News stars blasted the election fraud claims they peddled - NPR
114. The Smear Heard Round the World - Air Mail
115. What Fox News Hosts Said Privately vs. Publicly About Voter Fraud - The New York Times
116. What is Fox News hiding in the Dominion lawsuit? - The Washington Post
117. FEC Complaint Seeks Sanctions On Murdoch Over 2020 Campaign Misconduct - The National Memo
118. Fox Anchors Said Viewer Feelings, 'Not Numbers,' Should Determine Election Calls - The National Memo
119. Dominion bombshells reveal how Rupert Murdoch, Paul Ryan, and Fox's top lawyer secretly reacted to Trump's 'wild' election claims - Law & Crime
120. Fox libel defense at odds with top GOP presidential foes - Associated Press
121. Fox's Bartiromo Admitted to Banning Staff From Calling Joe Biden 'President-Elect' - The New Civil Rights Movement
122. Right-Wing Media Joins Assault On Fox Over Dominion Revelations - The National Memo
123. What To Do About Fox? Stop Treating It As A 'News' Organization - The National Memo
124. Tucker Carlson Is The Biggest Hypocrite At Fox News - Oklahoma Loves Marijuana -
125. Fox CEO Lachlan Murdoch dismisses $1.6 billion defamation case revelations as 'noise' - CNN
126. New Fox-Dominion Lawsuit Documents Shed Light on Debate Inside Network - The New York Times
127. Analysis - 4 takeaways from the new Dominion-Fox lawsuit documents - The Washington Post
128. Fox News anchor Maria Bartiromo is front and center in Dominion's defamation suit - Los Angeles Times
129. 'Incredibly Angry': Fox News Staff Reportedly Fuming About Dominion Filings - HuffPost
130. Fox News executives discussed a plan to denounce the 'Trump myth' a day before the Jan. 6 riot - NBC News
131. Fox News's no-good, very bad week - The Washington Post
132. "We're All Embarrassed": Inside Fox News as Dominion Revelations Rattle the Network - Vanity Fair
133. Former FBI official: 'We can now draw a direct line from a major network to American violence' - Raw Story
134. Fox News Is In Really Big Trouble - PoliticusUSA
135. Fox is a Far-Right Disinformation Machine and the GOP's Propaganda Arm - Lucid
136. Tucker Carlson firestorm over Trump texts threatens to engulf Fox News - The Guardian
137. 5 Nuggets From Dominion's Lawsuit Against Fox You May Have Missed - HuffPost
138. SATIRE Tucker Carlson Fears That Leaked Texts of Him Telling Truth Will Kill His Brand - The New Yorker

Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:05, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Sources

Judge finding that none of the statements were true.

There was a statement that the judge had determined that none of the statements were true. This cannot be correct. Some statements, including that Dominion Systems's equipment were used, were obviously true. I was unable to locate the ruling, as there is no quote. If someone can locate and verify the quote, please add the citation.Eni2dad (talk) 14:07, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

This is stated in the "Summary judgement" section; Eric Davis ruled that it "is crystal clear that none of the statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true". The source given is the NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/business/fox-dominion-defamation-case.html), but other sources are out there:

Bloomberg - https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/fox-news-election-fraud-defamation-case-orderd-to-go-to-trial

New Yorker - https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-communications/what-dominion-has-to-prove-in-its-case-against-fox-news

Politco - https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/31/dominion-lawsuit-fox-trial-00090034

Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/18/fox-dominion-settle-us-defamation-lawsuit

PBS - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fox-dominion-voting-systems-reach-settlement-over-false-election-claims

CNBC - https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/fox-dominion-trial-defamation-case-opening-statements.html Couruu (talk) 08:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Should the lead contain Dominion's annual revenue in the final paragraph, to compare it to the size of the settlement?

I put that information in the last paragraph of the lead and was promptly reverted. Red Slash 22:22, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

If you can find a better source then I would say add it to the Settlement section. Mox La Push (talk) 03:56, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Dubious Claim is Lawsuit Filing Section

Citing Bloomberg News, it is claimed: "In addition to Bartiromo, Dobbs, and Pirro, the suit also named primetime hosts Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity." However, it seems that no actual individuals are named as defendants in the full case name here in Wikipedia or in the filed pleadings I have seen. These individuals are discussed but, in the legal context, "named" typically refers to people or entities formally listed as parties to an action. Mox La Push (talk) 04:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

what "I have seen" appears to be contradicted by a reliable source: "Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson also targets of lawsuit" soibangla (talk) 05:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Chronology?

The Discovery section meanders chronologically.

The discovery section mentions events that occurred in December 2022, then August 13, 2022, August 30, 2022 and finally early December 2022. It would move forward in time if the first paragraph were moved last. Should I do this?

Also, there is information that could probably be deleted. For instance, the August 13, 2022 report that 'that sources "expected Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, who own and control the Fox Corporation, to sit for depositions as soon as this month" ' but then later, more definitive, report that they would be deposed in December makes the earlier speculation less notable.

Section could be condensed to focus on what seems most notable in retrospect rather than what was reported contemporaneously. Jreiss17 (talk) 15:40, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2024

Court documents demonstrate (redacted) and other Democrat operatives rigged the 2020 election and had access to Dominion voting tabulators. Cited. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1255923/gov.uscourts.azd.1255923.1.9.pdf

In 2020, Democrats used internet access to Dominion Voting Tabulators and rigged the Presidential Election and more. Cited: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/02nd_Judicial_District/Denver_District_Court/Cases%20of%20Interest/20CV34319/003/1246.pdf

2600:1700:5895:E000:7460:B614:FD2C:3642 (talk) 08:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

•  Not done Court documents are considered primary sources. Your interpretation or belief in what they say is not valid content. Articles summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic. If independent reliable sources reported that a court determined that any individual or group rigged the election, it would be worldwide, instant news. Stop drinking the kool aid to find some reason to justify Trump losing. If you're interested in working with us to summarize what independent reliable sources say, please do. If you just want to tell the world about your beliefs regarding the election- no matter how inaccurate those are- you can use social media to do that. 331dot (talk) 09:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)