Talk:Crystallographic texture

On 21 December 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Texture (chemistry) to Crystallographic texture. The result of the discussion was moved.

Perhaps 'Crystalline' is too broad?

This is one of those embarrasing inconsistencies that helps isolate fields of science & mathematics. Geologists refer to the crystalline texture of minerals as their size only (not orientation), and the texture of rocks as the difference in sizes of minerals. What is defined as crystalline texture here is known as 'fabric' in rocks (natural crystals). Geologist (talk) 00:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Geologists that work with it call it crystallographic texture not crystalline. At least this is the subject of this page. The fabric texture is a completely different subject and not to be confused with crystallographic texture. That is why the title of this page should revert back to what it was before: crystallographic texture. 93.56.204.143 (talk) 21:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruce Bathurst: I believe that fields of science and mathematics should not be isolated but rather integrated more with each other as well as with many more fields since they are all interrelated and dependent on each other. Hence I have requested for this article to be renamed to Texture (chemistry) since it is studied under physical chemistry (in solid state) and materials science is a subdiscipline of inorganic chemistry —CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 07:01, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am a material scientist and my principal field is crystallographic texture. Physical chemistry is another field, completely as well as inorganic chemistry. Get your fact straight and don't mess up with wikipedia content on the basis of what you think without knowing nothing about the field.

Bring back "crystallographic texture" and get rid of any reference or term about chemistry.

Either you do, or I will move the texture community to protest against what has been done to this page. 93.56.204.143 (talk) 21:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 May 2022

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 08:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 Jul 2024

I don't think that "chemistry" is the right suffix. I would suggest Texture (crystallography) and start the article with "In crystallography, materials science, and mineralogy, texture is ...."

This is also the case in the German Wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textur_(Kristallographie))

references https://icotom20.sciencesconf.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Rudolf_Wenk — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarDiehl (talk • contribs) 16:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Texture (crystalline) → Texture (chemistry) – All materials are not crystalline in texture. They can also be amorphous. Hence this article name should be have '(chemistry)' in it, since it is discussing texture of materials as a chemical property, or rather a physico-chemical property (since it is also studied in physical chemistry) —CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 06:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Incorrectly listed in [[Category:Start-Class physics articles]]

On 4 December 2006, 13:12 (UTC), a bot named‎ Peelbot (talk) (contribs)‎ added this article to the above physics articles category, whereas I believe that is a chemistry article, more precisely that of physical chemistry, since texture as a physicochemical property (crystallinity or amorphousness) is studied in solid state and also in materials science, which is subdiscipline of inorganic chemistry. I hope this article is moved into correct categories, and I can help in doing so when consensus is reached. Thank you —CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 07:14, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What you believe is not what it is. Are you a texture expert? I can definitely say no!

Crystallographic texture is as far from chemistry and physical chemistry as it can. It has already requested to take out the term chemistry from the title. I don't know any chemist or physical chemist working in this field. There are a lot of material scientist, geologist, mechanical engineer, physicist, even mathematics but not chemist or physical chemist.

The title should go back to Texture (crystallography), and any reference to something connected to chemistry removed. 93.56.204.143 (talk) 21:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 December 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) –𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 15:11, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Texture (chemistry) → Crystallographic texture – The actual name does not make any sense as what is reported in the page is "Crystallographic texture". It is not a chemical property as who requested the previous move argued. Clearly who did it does not know at all the field and his comments should be disregarded completely. There was another comment complaining with it but it was disregarded even if it was correct. I work in this field, I wrote plenty of articles, chapters on the subject and did contribute to the page years ago and I know or did collaborate with most of the authors in the references. The title before the chemistry addition was also not proper because erroneously someone did change the original "crystallographic texture" into crystalline texture (not exactly the same meaning), but it was way better than Texture (chemistry). Chemistry and physical chemistry have nothing to do with crystallographic texture. The comment on amorphous materials is wrong and does not make any sense. We study the texture of crystalline materials, hence not amorphous. It is called then crystallographic texture to distinguish it from other texture types. The fact that some materials are amorphous and thus they don't have a crystallographic texture (this can be debated, we simply cannot measure it if present) cannot take us to the conclusion that texture is not a material science subject (I am a materials scientist BTW). The title change did get unnoticed by the experts in the field up to now. A change to revert it to the original one, Crystallographic texture, or Texture (crystallographic), must be made. 2001:B07:5D38:CC8F:DC5E:ACE:B8F2:3A96 (talk) 10:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Support: per nom. And to be honest, open any materials science text book and it is described as Crystallographic texture. Never heard of texture (Chemistry) as term being used to describe this. FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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