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A fact from Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 November 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that several major U.S. politicians have spread conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season.

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Adding an origin/spread section?

I think an 'Origin and spread' section is important to add. A lot of RS seem to be emphasizing the scale of the misinformation, rapid online spread, and how unprecedented it is. [1] [2] [3] Several of these specifically discuss social media sites, particularly Twitter/X in being the origin of the rumors and uniquely enabling them to spread on a widespread scale. Cowlan (talk) 21:40, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that society has come to the point that this article had to be made is sad. Le Hurricane (talk) 00:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that Wikipedia is so politically biased makes me sad.Bjoh249 (talk) 00:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 05:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that several major U.S. politicians have spread conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season?

Source: "Greene, after spending years trying to distance herself from her infamous 2018 remarks on social media blaming wildfires on 'Jewish Space Lasers,' is now using this climate emergency to double down on weather conspiracies and lasers." Owen (2024)

ALT1: ... that relief workers responding to hurricanes Helene and Milton have received threats of violence from people who think the government is hiding aid? Source: "Falsehoods around hurricane response have spawned credible threats and incitement to violence directed at the federal government – this includes calls to send militias to face down FEMA for the perceived denial of aid, or to shoot and/or harm FEMA officials and the agency's emergency responders." Institute for Strategic Dialogue (2024)
ALT2: ... that following hurricanes Helene and Milton, some falsely believe the U.S. government created the hurricanes? Source: "The posts would be laughable if they weren't taken by many people as gospel. Among them: Infowars' Alex Jones, who claimed that Hurricanes Milton and Helene were 'weather weapons' unleashed on the East Coast by the U.S. government" Warzel (2024)
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Moved to mainspace by Dan Leonard (talk), with significant contributions by Belbury (talk), Cowlan (talk), and BootsED (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

— Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 06:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Everything here is fine. There aren't any problems and to be honest, this should be nominated for being a good article instead of being nominated for DYK. It's new, interesting, and long enough in my opinion, so I'll approve it to be a DYK. Tavantius (talk) 18:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unpromoted per WP:DYKELECT; this is still approved but should run after the elections. RoySmith (talk) 17:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scope

I have two questions about the scope of this article:

Is it exclusive to the United States?
What is being counted as a conspiracy theory? I added information about disinformation about a Cuban dam collapse but it doesn't necessarily accuse the Cuban government of anything (though according to the cited article it is related to mistrust in the Cuban government).

Thanks, ✶Qux yz ✶ 20:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is just politically biased against conservatives and Republicans. Bjoh249 (talk) 00:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bjoh249

This is irrelevant to the topical at hand
Wikipedia can only report on what reliable sources, as deemed by consensus, say.

✶Qux yz ✶ 01:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it’s truth. This site is very biased. Which is why no real thinking person takes you seriously. Bjoh249 (talk) 23:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you have a specific claim related to this article, do not post further. Wikipedia is not your soapbox. ✶Qux yz ✶ 00:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever, nobody takes Wikipedia seriously because of bias like yours. Bjoh249 (talk) 21:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources showing the lack of lithium and other valuable mineral deposits

Contray to one conspiracy theory mentioned in the article, available reliable sources show the lack of lithium and other mineral resources in the area devasted by Hurricane Helene. The United States Geological Survey and North Carolina Geological Survey have published maps of mineral resources that include the area affected by Hurricane Helene. They show that area to be devoid of economically valuable lithium and other mineral resource. With links to digital files where they exist, they included:

Lemmon, R.E. and Dunn, D.E., 1973, Geologic map and mineral resources summary of the Bat Cave quadrangle, North Carolina, and mineral resource summary. Geological Map Series, 202-NE, 1:24,000. North Carolina Geological Survey.

Robinson, G.R., Lesure, F.G., Marlow, J.I., Foley, N.K., and Clark, S.H., 2004. Bedrock geology and mineral resources of the Knoxville 1 degree X 2 degree quadrangle Tennessee, North Carolina, and South Carolina. U.S. Geological Survey, Open-File Report OF-2004-1075, 1:250,000.

The United States Geological Survey, North Carolina Geological Survey, and others have also published papers and fact sheets which include maps of the Tin-Spodumene Belt / spodumene pegmatite district, which show where lithium deposits are found and limited to in North Carolina. With links to digital files where they exist, they included:

Horton, J.W.; Butler, J.R. The Kings Mountain belt and spodumene pegmatite district, Cherokee and York Counties, South Carolina, and Cleveland County, North Carolina. In Centennial Field Guide; Neathery, T.L., Ed.; Southeastern Section of the Geological Society of America: Boulder, CO, USA, 1986; Volume 6, pp. 239–244.

Kesler, T.L., 1942. The tin-spodumene belt of the Carolinas: A preliminary report. U.S. Geological Survey Bulletin 936-J, p. 245-269.

North Carolina Geological Survey, Lithium. Educational Fact Sheet. Paul H. (talk) 16:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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