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I propose merging Macedonian dynasty into this article. Dynasties with their own articles (Komnenos, Doukas, Angelos, Laskaris, Palaiologos) are known as House of x, while articles on previous dynasties are about the country in the period of the dynasty's rule. Valentinian dynasty and Theodosian dynasty actually use the 'former country' infobox, which implies this too, even though they are named as if they were about the dynasty. Although Constantinian dynasty and Leonid dynasty are exceptions to this. The Macedonian dynasty is not conceived as a noble family in the same way as the Komnenoi or Palaiologoi so it should be merged with this article, which is of the 'historical period of former country' type. Violoncello10104 (talk) 04:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There are no rules in Wikipedia about the naming of dynasties, either as "House of X" or as "X dynasty" or just as "X". And the Macedonian dynasty very much is as a royal family whose legitimacy was grounded in blood or familial relations, indeed the one that set the pattern for the subsequent Komnenian, Angelid, and Palaiologan dynasties. The very fact that two sisters could share the throne without a husband just because they belonged to that family against the usual norms of the time is ample testament to this. Either way, the dynasty itself is extensive and well documented enough to warrant its own article, beyond the history of the Byzantine state under its rule. Constantine ✍ 17:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your input. Do you think that, ideally, all the dynasties should have their own separate articles from the 'Byzantine Empire under x dynasty' articles? I'm not necessarily opposed to this, I just think it should be consistent. Also, surely the term 'house' signifies a more developed model of aristocracy, such that the Komnenian dynasty is more similar to the Doukas than it is to the Macedonian and Amorian. Or, should we also remove all mentions of 'House of x'? Violoncello10104 (talk) 18:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
