Talk:Bugia (candlestick)

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A bugia as depicted in John Naifa's 1925 work "Costume of Prelates of the Catholic Church"

... that the bugia, a ceremonial candlestick used by Latin Catholic Bishops or other prelates, gets its name from an Algerian port city famous for its exportation of candle wax?

Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bugia

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Assmann

Created by Maximilian775 (talk) and Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Maximilian775 (talk) 18:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article was nominated for DYK within seven days of being created and is long enough. The article is adequately sourced, neutral, and is free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing. Hook is interesting. Image appears to be freely licensed, is used in the article, and is clear at 100px. QPQ is done.

However, I don't feel that the hook is adequately cited. The statements that bugias are used by "Latin Catholic Bishops or other prelates" and that Béjaïa is "famous for its exportation of candle wax" do not appear to be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source.

I would also suggest a small reword of the hook so that Béjaïa is mentioned by name and is not pipelinked, with WP:EASTEREGG in mind. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mattythewhite -- Do you know if DYKs can have multiple sources? I think to fully prove the whole DYK here a few need to be daisy-chained together, and in searching there doesn't seem to be a defined policy. Maximilian775 (talk) 20:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that the bugia, a ceremonial candlestick used by Latin Catholic bishops or other prelates, gets its name from the Algerian city of Béjaïa, which was a source of candle wax?

Source:https://archive.org/details/na00john/page/74/mode/2up

@Maximilian775: I'm not certain but I assume that more than one source is fine. The ALT1 hook looks fine to me. However, I can't see any mention of bugias in the source? Also, I think the main body of the article needs to mention, with a source, the use of bugias by Latin Catholic Bishops, as it's currently only in the lead.

@Mattythewhite: just edited the source URL, it was referencing the wrong page.

As to mentioning bishops, the "description" section mentions cardinals and patriarchs, and the "usage" section mentions the Pope and assistants at the papal -- all 4 of these persons are as a rule, almost always bishops. Maximilian775 (talk) 22:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Maximilian775: Okay, happy now to approve ALT1. Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly recommend removing "or other prelates". It's bloat. DS (talk) 05:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]