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Bonnie and Clyde were inspiration for the character, "Bonnie" in Brawl Stars. (And her cannon whom is named Clyde) Could this go under the 'Pop Culture - Videogames' section or is it too unrelated to go under that category? Whaleboats (talk) 15:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Goss (Texas Ranger)

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We need to look more into him. I haven’t yet, but he has claimed to have arrested Clyde and had several run ins with him and Bonnie No No No No Name fu (talk) 05:08, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clyde’s Sexuality

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It says that W.D. Jones said that Clyde was gay, but Jones did not. Actually, the author of the source given, Toland, was the one who started that rumor in the book cited. He had no reference for saying Clyde was gay, and should not be considered as a valid source.I can’t change it, but if someone could, that’d be great. MeepMorp27 (talk) 05:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article says: "Some of the more lurid lies that he told concerned the gang's sex lives, and this testimony gave rise to many stories about Barrow's ambiguous sexuality." Are you saying that's wrong? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Music Section -Yeah I think we need a discussion on the music paragraph. Whoever is being a fascist about deciding which songs can and can't be listed in the pop culture section needs to take a step back. Any songs referencing Bonnie and Clyde should be listed. Like what's the point of someone reading Wikipedia to learn more information when you are literally lmao actively hiding information about songs referencing Bonnie and Clyde. Or just make a separate paragraph stating that the titles reference the names but the lyrical content is unrelated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.156.215.119 (talk) 16:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The hidden note there clearly gives (amongst other things) this instruction: "DO NOT ADD THE EMINEM SONG "97 BONNIE AND CLYDE", IT IS NOT ABOUT THIS PAIR, AND WILL BE REMOVED." Your addition has been removed with the edit summary "revert IP editor using multiple IP's to avoid edit warring block, ignoring WP:BRD, and ignoring editing note". Martinevans123 (talk) 11:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Summerfell1978, as per WP:BRD, I believe that should discuss here first BEFORE re-adding those examples as you did here. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:15, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You should read it before you link it ["BRD is not a valid excuse for reverting good-faith efforts to improve a page simply because you don't like the changes."]. This discussion is dead, there seems to be no one against this edit to make the page better. Summerfell1978 (talk) 12:21, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given the recent history of the edits to that section, and the admin sanctions to the anon IP concerned, I'm surprised you think that "this discussion is dead." I think it's a little early to decide that "no one is against" your edit. If the hidden note is misguided, there should be a discussion here to remove it. But I don't personally see the point in adding references to songs that have nothing to so with Bonnie and Clyde, apart from the use of their names in the title. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:29, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the songs had nothing to do with Bonnie and Clyde, their names wouldn't be in the song titles. Their lyrics illustrate fictional stories of duos committing crime, based off of Bonnie and Clyde. I'd say that's quite important to list in the article; it conveys the significance of Bonnie and Clyde's influence in popular culture. I cannot accept a hidden note as an unchallengeable directive that's set in stone. Every user has the right to edit Wikipedia articles to improve their quality and ensure they better serve the readers. Summerfell1978 (talk) 12:38, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Bonnie and Clyde rap song is so influential that a 46 year old surgeon who understands nothing about rap, knows about the song and the real Bonnie and Clyde thanks to a medical student who substituted the lyrics with medical terminology to help students and physicians remember contraindications of several pharmaceutical medications. I really don't understand the ban from the article page about this fact, if it is something that has reached doctors in the most obscure way. Summerfell1978 (talk) 12:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Bonnie" and "Clyde" are just personal names. Their use together, in the name of any song, tells us nothing about the subject matter of that song. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:11, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You think it's a coincidence that musicians titled their song title two random names that happened to be Bonnie and Clyde? If you read the lyrics you'll know what the song is about. I personally don't see any reasoning or logic in any of your previous statements regarding this matter. Summerfell1978 (talk) 13:17, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are we talking about just one song here, or the four different songs that you added here? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:24, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Two of those songs mention Bonnie and Clyde in the song title. Both of those songs are about fictional stories of a duo participating in crime à la Bonnie and Clyde style. The third song is titled Just The Two Of Us and is a different version of the song '97 Bonnie & Clyde. The fourth song has no mention of Bonnie and Clyde in the title, but is referenced in the song. Summerfell1978 (talk) 13:41, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So perhaps we need a separate thread to discuss each of those separately. If you think the hidden note is wrong, we'll need to open a further thread to discuss its removal. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, we don't need to do that. That hidden note has no supreme ruling over my opinion nor the opinion of any other Wikipedia user. I consider this discussion over. Summerfell1978 (talk) 14:14, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Provided each of proposed additions is fully discussed here, the hidden note might be unnecessary. But I suspect that it was only added in the light of previous disagreements and as a way of avoiding edit warring. So I think there ought to be a proper discussion of its merits. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:48, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Going forward, it might be a good idea to find independent third-party WP:RS sources, for all of the songs listed, which establish their connection to the subject outlaws, rather just relying on sources which simply support the existence of the song and/or just show the lyrics. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:42, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, we don't need to cite any sourcesto establish the song title's connection to the outlaws, because the song title references the outlaws in the most literal way possible. I consider this discussion over. Summerfell1978 (talk) 14:15, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For someone who has been editing for only the past 21 days, you seem remarkably sure of Wikipedia policy and of your own edits. I'm not sure that songs deserve inclusion here purely on the basis of your own personal opinion. But I'd be happy to see the views of other editors. I don't consider this discussion to be over. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now that Summerfell1978 has finished, I'd be interested to hear the views of other interested editors. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:04, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, to which Tupc's song "My and My Girlfriend" is linked, makes no mention of Bonnie and Clyde, but says "The song "Me and My Girlfriend" was inspired by the rapper Nas' song, "I Gave You Power"". I don't know what the The New York Times article says as it's behind a paywall. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:02, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding Eminem's "'97 Bonnie & Clyde" and "Just the Two of Us", whether they are actually about Bonnie and Clyde or not, are just the same song with different titles? So, if they were inspired by the outlaws, they should be combined into one entry. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Injury

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"Unfortunately, his injury hindered his ability to evade capture during his criminal escapades."

Why does it say unfortunately here lol.. 2001:16B8:CC2C:500:CD60:A14E:F92:7FE1 (talk) 14:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was unfortunate for him? But I agree not wholly neutral. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2025

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add "Taylor Swift's 2017 song "Getaway Car"" in "In popular culture--> Music 2A02:587:3402:9720:DED:6687:EACF:BA26 (talk) 17:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done You need to provide a reliable source that explains the connection. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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