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May 24

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Remove "EgyptAir Flight 804"?

The article may have received updates of May 22 and 23, mostly minor updates in prose. However, neither seems very impactful to the event marked as "ongoing". Of course, the event can be reinserted as just a blurb, but this is the removal proposal, i.e. delisting the event from Ongoing ticker. The ones in "Search and recovery efforts" discusses just an Egyptian submarine and a French boat scanning the possible crash area. The latest one in "Responses" is just a series of latest reactions that do very little effect to the event. The latest one in "Investigations" do not make the event meet the ITN ongoing standards, IMHO. George Ho (talk) 06:06, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Cyprus election

Article: Cypriot legislative election, 2016 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Anastasiades government holds on to power after Cyprus legislative election (Post)
Credits:
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
 PanchoS (talk) 17:23, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Tajikistani referendum

Article: Tajikistani constitutional referendum, 2016 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the Tajikistani constitutional referendum, voters approve the removal of term limits of incumbent President Emomali Rahmon. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Tajikistani constitutional referendum results in the removal of term limits of incumbent President Emomali Rahmon.
News source(s): TASS, ABC News
Credits:

Article updated
 Brandmeistertalk 09:25, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Voters endorse. Voters favor. Voters approve. Sca (talk) 13:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Adjusted. Brandmeistertalk 17:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Binali Yıldırım appointed Turkish Prime Minister

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Article: Binali Yıldırım (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Binali Yıldırım (pictured) is appointed Prime Minister of Turkey following the resignation of Ahmet Davutoğlu (Post)
Alternative blurb: Binali Yıldırım (pictured) is appointed Prime Minister of Turkey after Ahmet Davutoğlu resigns amid disagreements with President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan
News source(s): ABC, BBC, VOA
Credits:

Article updated
 Nub Cake (talk) 01:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. Needs some referencing improvement. Especially the following section: Education, Early political career, second paragraph of Member of Parliament, middle paragraph of Minister of Transport, Awards and Honors section. --Jayron32 01:24, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Added references to the parts stated. Awards and Honours section is already sourced. The source at the end of the first paragraph lists the universities. Nub Cake (talk) 14:49, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article now meets minimum quality standards. --Jayron32 15:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not all countries elect their PMs, as a matter of fact. Brandmeistertalk 07:26, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I respectfully disagree. It doesn't have to be a result of an election. A blurb about the resignation of the Austrian Chancellor and the appointment of his successor is currently on the ITN. Nub Cake (talk) 14:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We don't post one item just because we have posted other items in the same category of events. Each item is weighed on its own merits. 331dot (talk) 14:46, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but I'd still say that unless someone explains clearly what the difference between Austrian Chancellors and Turkish Prime Ministers are such that the former merits posting and the latter doesn't, then if we oppose posting this because of anything other than article quality issues, it would be a sign of systemic bias. It's up to ITN whether we want to embrace bias or fight it, and I personally think we should have a discussion on that; I do on a personal level feel we should fight bias however, and so I'm supporting. Banedon (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - The fact that it wasn't an election is irrelevant. Most countries don't directly elect senior government officials, not a reason not to post. Fgf10 (talk) 15:43, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I don't want to formally say that I oppose this but the effect of this seems minimal; the PM is chosen by the President and as such must agree with his policies(in fact, the previous PM was dismissed forresigned due to disagreeing with Erodgan). The new PM has even suggested his role should be abolished de jure because Erodgan is already in charge de facto. 331dot (talk) 15:54, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The senior leadership of the CCP (PRC) is not 'elected' by the wider public, so "it was not an election" is a No-go argument. And until Turkey formally moves to a Presidential system, this is ITN recurring material. CaradhrasAiguo (talk) 16:10, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@CaradhrasAiguo: This is not a recurring item; in fact, the recurring items list specifically states that changes to head of government are discussed on their own merits. 331dot (talk) 16:14, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot: Regardless, it is a non-trivial consolidation of power in favor of Erdogan, and thru my lens it is clearly by no means an insignificant step in the path towards increased Authoritarianism, and possibly Totalitarianism in the Turksish 'Republic'. CaradhrasAiguo (talk) 16:21, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Though Yıldırım won't be much more than a figurehead, he has been a key minister for years, and both his positive achievements and dark sides are remarkable. Apart from that, current developments in Turkey are very intensely covered in int'l media, and CaradhrasAiguo is right in noting that this is another important step towards authoritanism. We should also reward the main author of this contentwise awesome article, though I'd like to see more English-language sources, or at least translations of some of the more important sources' titles. Technically it's a bit early, as Yıldırım has not yet been confirmed by parliament, but it is beyond any doubt that he will be confirmed at the parliament's next session. --PanchoS (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – New (nominal) head of government in a country of 79 million. Sca (talk) 22:00, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 06:14, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I cannot, actually, determine whether or not this nomination should be ITNR. The criteria states that "heads of state" are ITNR, election or not, but that "heads of government" are not ITNR, election or not. The definition of Turkey's government, as noted on Wikipedia, the CIA and Turkey's own government webpage, is "parliamentary republic". This means the PM, as head of parliament, should be the most powerful person in the country, and if ITNR should have any correlation with impact, then surely heads of government should be ITNR for republics. Now, the difference between "state" and "government" is something of a Western conceit that Turkey (among others) is doing away with, and there's good reason to say that de facto power in this particular "parliamentary republic" actually does lie with the head of state, contrary to their assertions otherwise. The strictest reading of the ITNR criteria leads me to say that ITNR should not apply here, and this particular case seems to support that. But the fact that, for many countries on Earth, ITNR would cover the change in a mere figurehead, but not the person in charge of the actual functioning of the state and government strikes me as absurd, and surely this would have been considered when laying down the ITNR criteria.128.214.53.18 (talk) 07:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • NASA projects that 2016 will have the warmest global temperature average on record. This year would be the third record-breaking year in a row. Per NOAA annals, April marked the 12th record warmest month in a row. (Scientific American)

RD: Bata Živojinović

Article: Bata Živojinović (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Award-winning actor, should be notable enough even without trial run. Article needs more sourcing in Biography section though. EternalNomad (talk) 14:14, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tentative support, iconic actor. The article needs some more references, though. A couple of paragraphs are unreferenced (though there has been some improvement since the first time I checked). --Tone 20:04, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Other than the "Illness and death section", has a grand total of two references, and discounting the section on his death and the list of films is so short as to be a substub. I don't expect everything to be an FA, but I do expect an article on a politician to have more than one sentence about their political positions and career. ‑ Iridescent 20:32, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ice Hockey World Championship

Article: 2016 IIHF World Championship Final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In ice hockey, Canada defeat Finland in the final to win the IIHF World Championship. (Post)
News source(s): CTV News, RT, Reuters
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Noticed this tournament by chance. Has one line of prose. Needs some more prose (buildup, match summary, etc), if there are any ice hockey fans out there. Fuebaey (talk) 21:26, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe they're melting away like the glaciers. Sca (talk) 13:56, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
More just a matter that this is actually not that major of a tournament, unlike the olympics, World Cup of Hockey or the Stanley Cup playoffs, which are also ongoing. It's an annual tournament that is mostly seen as secondary, as many of the world's best are too busy with their club teams to participate. Tends to be treated more significantly in continental Europe than anywhere else. Oh, and its annual, unlike the quadrennial World Cups in other sports, and even hockey.oknazevad (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Palme d'Or

Article: I, Daniel Blake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: I, Daniel Blake wins the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival. (Post)
Alternative blurb: I, Daniel Blake wins the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
 The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[posted] Austrian presidential election

Article: Austrian presidential election, 2016 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Alexander Van der Bellen is narrowly elected President of Austria. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Alexander Van der Bellen of The Greens is elected as the President of Austria.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Independent Alexander Van der Bellen, a member of The Greens, is narrowly elected President of Austria.
Alternative blurb III: Alexander Van der Bellen narrowly defeats Norbert Hofer in Austrian presidential election.
News source(s): BBC News, Deutsche Welle, The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: An exit poll has Hofer leading by less than two percent - within a margin of error. Result should be finalised tomorrow. Fuebaey (talk) 16:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
comment Same nom, same time. I just moved my blurb here as altbrlub.Lihaas (talk) 16:46, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Lihaas: A little early your prophecy in the altblurn, isn't it? Zwerg Nase (talk) 16:48, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yea probably, nor surprised at chicanery (a la French election a decade or so ago (what fun I had debating with my [black) French teacher (incidentally best, most neutral teacher ive ever had...spelled out her position and actually discussed with me at UVA) ;))Lihaas (talk) 22:39, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
comment point being, we don't determine "narrow" arbitrarily, reader can. And also mentioned party for context.Lihaas (talk) 22:45, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose image – Int'l media was only interested in Van Der Bellen as Hofer's opponent. With a president promising to continue the low-profile role of his predecessors, the lately appointed Chancellor clearly is the central figure in Austrian politics. --PanchoS (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support image. The head of state is more interesting to an international audience, and more recent. The narrow victory after a day of great uncertainty clearly is a major news story. --Tataral (talk) 16:42, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Recency is an argument, but why would a figurehead head of state be "more interesting to an international audience" than a powerful head of government? I'm not prejudiced against Van der Bellen, but while Hofer would have changed the political system of the Republic, it is very likely that the international audience won't ever hear about Van der Bellen again. The defeat of Hofer is the big news here, not Van der Bellen's victory. That's why I also strongly prefer altblurb3. --PanchoS (talk) 17:01, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think altblurb3 gives undue weight to the guy who lost the election. If Hillary Clinton wins the US presidential election, she will continue the legacy of Obama and many previous presidents and not really make any dramatic changes, as opposed to the American version of Norbert Hofer, Donald Trump, who has said he will persecute Muslims, build a wall and so on, and clearly have a more dramatic (in a negative way) impact on his country. But if Clinton wins the election, the blurb should focus on her and not Trump. --Tataral (talk) 17:11, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, Hofer conceded. Smurrayinchester 15:36, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nenzing shooting

Article: 2016 Nenzing shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Nenzing, Austria, two people are killed and eleven injured in a mass shooting, with the perpetrator taking his own life shortly after. (Post)
News source(s): Wiener Zeitung
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Not an everyday event in Central Europe Zwerg Nase (talk) 11:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Nick Menza

Article: Nick Menza (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Drummer best known for working with Megadeth. Wouldn't make the cut in importance, but that doesn't matter during the trial. Thryduulf (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2016 (UTC) Thryduulf (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Featured on 4 Megadeth LP's that have all gone platinum (one went double), and was nominated for a Grammy. Rust in Peace was released on September 24, 1990, and debuted at number 23 on the Billboard 200. Went Platinum after shipping one million copies. Countdown to Extinction debuted at number two on the Billboard 200 with first week sales of 128,000 copies. Went platinum after shipping one million copies.. Eventually went Double Platinum with two million copies. Was nominated for a Grammy. Youthanasia debuted and peaked at number 4 on the Billboard 200, with 143,000 units sold in its first week. Went platinum after shipping one million copies.Cryptic Writings debuted at number 10 on Billboard 200 chart, sold 75,000 copies in the first week, and was certified platinum in 1998 by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for shipping one million copies in the United States. JanderVK (talk) 20:33, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until referencing issues noted in the nom are resolved. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:39, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Akhtar Mansour

Article: Akhtar Mansour (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (Fox News)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
 Baking Soda (talk) 09:36, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support article is extensive and well referenced. Thryduulf (talk) 10:23, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I don't think this is written in an encyclopedic tone. While sourced, there is a lot of speculation in the article; including his place of birth, his interactions with other Islamic figures and his death. Phrases like 'alleged', 'apparently', and 'claimed' pepper the article. I will also note that the US government have yet to definitively confirm his death, only that they did target him in a drone strike and is "probably" dead. Fuebaey (talk) 15:31, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • As long as the claims are being made by specifically identified reliable sources and not being made in Wikipedia's voice then there is no problem with those sorts of statements - indeed if the information is disputed by reliable sources or there is no definitive information available they are required. As for the death, last I saw it had been confirmed by the Taliban (and a false claim of death would not seem to be in their interests). Thryduulf (talk) 16:16, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • At time of posting nomination, death was already confirmed by Taliban, U.S., and Afghan intelligence.. Baking Soda (talk) 10:17, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 10:21, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sándor Tarics

Article: Sándor Tarics (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): L'Equipe
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Oldest living Olympic gold medallist is now no longer living. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:28, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Barring expansion that indicates major notability in the water polo field, I'm leaning oppose. "Oldest Olympic gold medalist" isn't as notable as "Oldest living human", and his medal was won as part of a team competition rather than an individual event as well. SpencerT♦C 04:13, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • We are currently trialling a new system for RD where everyone who has a Wikipedia biography is automatically notable enough, the only criteria we are judging on is the quality of the article (see WT:ITN for more info). Thryduulf (talk) 10:08, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on length of article. A stub cannot be posted on the main page. If this were expanded to a comprehensive biography, I could support it. --Jayron32 04:38, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Jayron32. Not comprehensive enough for the main page. Thryduulf (talk) 10:08, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Alan Young

Article: Alan Young (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS, People. Reported on Friday, May 20 to have died Thursday, May 19.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Star of the long-running US TV series Mister EdTheBlinkster (talk) 00:28, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
this is not productive
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
  • Support Extremely notable person for Mr. Ed and extensive Disney work etc. Cavils about sourcing would apply equally to a vast number of article, but this is the guy who just died. By the time every article is done, we would have this at the centenary of his death, AFAICT. If it makes a difference, change entire filmography sections for every actor. Collect (talk) 00:22, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Unless of course it's the famous Mr. Ed. Sca (talk) 22:17, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Accession of Montenegro to NATO

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Article: Accession of Montenegro to NATO (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Montenegro and NATO sign an accession agreement, paving the way for entry into the military alliance. (Post)
News source(s): (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty)
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Nominator's comments: Significant international relations/geopolitical event.. Baking Soda (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose. "Paving the way for entry" is not the same thing as actual entry. There's still a few steps for them to complete before they actually enter. 331dot (talk) 19:58, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Significance of event is its geopolitical signal (move towards Europe as opposed to Russia). All of NATO's members must now ratify the agreement, with Prime Minister Milo Đukanović expecting Montenegro to join by mid 2017. Baking Soda (talk) 20:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I understand but as of now I still think their actual entry into NATO is what would be truly notable. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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[Posted] Christian Kern

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Article: Christian Kern (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Austrian Federal Railways CEO Christian Kern succeeds Werner Faymann as Chancellor of Austria. (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post and others.
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Nominator's comments: While the old chancellor's resignation was posted, the followup nomination got missed. Still not too late. PanchoS (talk) 18:06, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I clicked on the link in the blurb, saw a 29-year old foreign minister stare back at me and thought "those Austrians sure know how to pick their leaders." Unfortunately the actual article is barely a week old and still a stub. Fuebaey (talk) 18:20, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I thought it was another Trudeau moment, albeit a right-wing version. In terms of expansion, could add more on his political/business background. From reading the article, I don't understand how the head of a state company suddenly becomes head of government. Government ministers or people with political experience tend to get high profile posts. This seems unusual. Fuebaey (talk) 22:04, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Has been expanded and I think it's decent enough for ITN. Coincides with the vote today. Fuebaey (talk) 09:46, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Morley Safer

Article: Morley Safer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Long running 60 Minutes TV correspondent. 12 Emmy awards, many others. Household name in the USA. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:29, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Cyclone Roanu

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Article: Cyclone Roanu (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Flooding and landslides produced by Cyclone Roanu (satellite image pictured) in Sri Lanka kill at least 58 people and leave more than 130 missing (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, New York Times
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Sources may say monsoonal rains, but the system was the precursor to the recently named Cyclone Roanu. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 17:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Philippine legislative election

Articles: Philippine Senate election, 2016 (talk · history · tag) and Philippine House of Representatives elections, 2016 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Philippine general election, the Liberal Party emerges as the party with a plurality of seats in both houses of Congress after the Senate and House of Representatives elections. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Liberal Party emerges with the most seats in the Congress of the Philippines, after elections in the Senate and the House of Representatives.
News source(s): Xinhua
Credits:

Both articles updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: The legislative part of the Philippine general election, 2016. The winners for the executive (presidential and vice presidential elections) aren't to be officially proclaimed until early next month, at the earliest. –HTD 15:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose because both target articles suffer from large swaths of uncited text. --Jayron32 15:34, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • The large swaths of uncited texts are backgrounders (electoral system) written in summary style. I could just hide them for the meantime as that's a common practice here... –HTD 16:03, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh, I wasn't event talking about that. The background stuff on the election system which is citable to other articles is of minor concern. I was concerned about the larges swaths of text, about living persons and about the particulars of this election, which are entirely uncited. If you got rid of all of the uncited text in these two articles, you'd be left with some tables and a few bare sentences and lists. --Jayron32 16:11, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • I see. Currently, in the Philippine House of Representatives elections, 2016, the only section that has large swaths of text that involves people is the "Results" section, and every paragraph that I know of has at least one reference. As you've said, the "Electoral system" section doesn't need references, the "District changes" section has a citation for every new district created, the "Retiring and term limited incumbents" section is tucked away to another article, and I'm just waiting for the Commission on Elections to upload the party-list result so that could be done with.
        • In the Philippine Senate election, 2016, I've cited the large swaths of text involving politicians in the "Coalitions" section As for the "Term-limited and retiring incumbents", I'm waiting for the presidential and vice presidential election to have officially declared winners so I can cite who among them won and lost. –HTD 16:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • support now per improvements. --Jayron32 18:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment added altblurb. I'd hide the big empty table until the results do come out - it doesn't give any information and just adds more page scrolls. Fuebaey (talk) 18:41, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Articles sufficiently updated. SpencerT♦C 05:42, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Marking as ready. The big table is no longer empty. Fuebaey (talk) 16:54, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 09:34, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Marco Pannella

Article: Marco Pannella (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Prominent Italian politician The Rambling Man (talk) 13:56, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Ongoing: Fort McMurray wildfire

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If Sca hadn't come to the talk page to bother, if not annoy or harass, administrators about the so-called tragic event, I wouldn't do this for him. (No offense, Sca, but that's how I see it.) To be honest, I didn't want to nominate it ever, but my ethics wouldn't be strong enough to prevent this from being posted per ITN rules. Therefore, quality becomes the main concern, which is not my strong interest for ITN... unless I have no choice. I know that Wikipedia is not censored, but I wonder why administrators like to put tragedies into the Ongoing section, like wildfires, airplane crashes, airport attacks, and attacks on a peaceful city. Nothing against administration discretion, but... never mind. As said before, personal feelings and ethics and morals are useless per ITN rules. Well, as I hate to admit, Anyway the article has events of May 16 and May 18 since the delisting. I don't know whether that is enough to relist the tragic wildfire, but maybe we should do the same with other American wildfires... right? George Ho (talk) 06:11, 19 May 2016 (UTC) Reluctantly modified post. George Ho (talk) 10:14, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the rule against such... "personalization"? George Ho (talk) 09:20, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
More importantly, why would you feel the need to personalise this in any case? Are you trying to make a point? Take it up with Sca or to a talk page if you must. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:21, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) The 'rule' is that disputes with other editors should not be taken to this page; this page is to discuss the merits of nominations, not settle disagreements or disputes. 331dot (talk) 09:23, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I tried discussing the discretion in the talk page, remember? I got the scolding. George Ho (talk) 09:27, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Show me the policy or guideline, so I can strike it out. George Ho (talk) 09:28, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you must see a policy, then here is WP:DR. Maybe more specifically WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE. 331dot (talk) 09:36, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I struck out the part about administrator discretion, but I want to leave in the first sentence (unless I feel pressured to strike it out) because I fear that the discussion started by Sca wasn't going anywhere. George Ho (talk) 10:05, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I struck out also the part about mocking the "quality" criterion. What else shall I strike out? George Ho (talk) 10:14, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Article has not been receiving regular, substantive updates over a time frame that would make ongoing a good idea. If there is a specific event regarding the wildfire that you'd like to see mentioned in a blurb, please feel free to nominate for that. --Jayron32 10:47, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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May 18

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[Closed] Timothy Wiltsey "cold case" conviction

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Article: Timothy Wiltsey (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Michelle Lodzinski is convicted of murdering her five-year-old son Timothy Wiltsey 25 years ago in New Jersey. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, AP, USA Today, NY Times
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Long the primary suspect in Timothy Wiltsey's 1991 murder, despite a lack of direct evidence, his mother Michelle Lodzinski was finally tried and convicted in a successful "cold case" prosecution that attracted widespread media attention. —Patrug (talk) 12:38, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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[Posted] EgyptAir Flight 804

Proposed image
Article: EgyptAir Flight 804 (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  EgyptAir Flight 804, with 66 people on board, disappears over the Mediterranean en route from Paris to Cairo. (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Some Daesh looney bin may well claim this,..Lihaas (talk) 05:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Man, look at the time stamp since I called it. #policestate running its course? so eas to guess #falseflagLihaas (talk) 18:27, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Will post as soon as the image is auto-protected. Smurrayinchester 08:58, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, forgot about that, but hopefully it'll be good to go in about two minutes. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:59, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Fritz Stern

Article: Fritz Stern (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tagesschau, Spiegel, AP.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Important historian, consultant to the US State Department, part of Thatcher's commission to evaluate if German reunification should be allowed. Zwerg Nase (talk) 13:33, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for a blurb – For anyone interested in 20th century German history, Fritz Stern is a must-read. In January 1990, he trenchantly observed (in the New York Times): "The moral sphere also needs a reciprocal recognition of crimes committed, and apologies offered and accepted." That process still is still going on. Sca (talk) 14:11, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose in any form, article is highly under-referenced. Blurb not necessary in any case. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:37, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Added some to article, w/refs. Sca (talk) 15:06, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose article quality and length is not commensurate with his stated importance. If this were cleaned up (mostly referencing issues) this could be posted easily. --Jayron32 15:17, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • No blurb This is an RD case. But I agree it still needs work. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:15, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb regardless of quality - "retired professor dies aged 90" does not merit a blurb unless there is something more to it than that or there is exceptional public reaction. Oppose RD while there is only thin prose with missing citations. Thryduulf (talk) 21:52, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 17

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[Closed] Chibok kidnapping victim found

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Article: Chibok schoolgirls kidnapping (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ One of the girls kidnapped in 2014 by Boko Haram in Nigeria is found and reunited with her family. (Post)
News source(s): CNN BBC The Independent NBC News
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This kidnapping got a huge amount of news attention when it happened in 2014, and this girl represents the first one to be found and rescued since the kidnapping happened. According to above NBC News link, the rescue has been confirmed by the Nigerian military in addition to the BringBackOurGirls activist group (the latter of which might be criticized as unreliable). Everymorning (talk) 14:52, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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[Closed] Ongoing: Iraqi civil war

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On the May 17th current events template, the following news article is mentioned: "At least 44 people are killed and 90 injured in three bomb attacks in Baghdad, Iraq." The Iraqi civil war article piped in the article leads to a 2016 timeline with a running ticker of serious events going on in Iraq, mostly localized around the capital city. The death toll is mounting and continues to mount. We can turn a blind eye to this no longer. This is a hot war and it needs to be posted as an "ongoing event".--WaltCip (talk) 17:41, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Guy Clark

Article: Guy Clark (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Tennesseean
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter known for his influence on the outlaw country genre Teemu08 (talk) 17:27, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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