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I don't know how many people here are involved with Wikidata. I work with it a little. About a year ago The Signpost published an article showing the utility of being able to summon up all the works of a particular graphic artist, despite there being no Wikipedia articles for some of the paintings. That got me to thinking that one could do the same for composers. Does anyone want to work with me in tackling such a project? - kosboot (talk) 14:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

@Kosboot: You can do this outside of mainspace using {{Wikidata list}}, with P86 and the Q-number for the relevant composer (eg Q255 for Beethoven). Nikkimaria (talk) 00:57, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Example

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Article description inception instrumentation item Piano Concerto No. 0 piano concerto by Ludwig van Beethoven 1784 piano Q166550 Piano Concerto No. 2 classical orchestral work by Beethoven 1788 piano orchestra Q210203 Rage Over a Lost Penny piano rondo by Beethoven 1790s 1795 piano Q1217651 Marmotte song composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1790 Q4446617 Musik zu einem Ritterballett composition by Ludwig von Beethoven 1791 piccolo clarinet horn trumpet timpani string section Q81524365 Octet in E-flat Major, Op. 103 composition for wind instruments by Ludwig van Beethoven 1792 oboe clarinet horn bassoon Q3349013 Piano Sonata No. 1 piano sonata composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1793 piano Q145813 Piano Sonata No. 2 piano sonata composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1794 piano Q145873 Piano Sonata No. 3 composition for piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1794 piano Q145937 Adelaide Lied by Ludwig van Beethoven 1794 voice piano Q353933 Piano Trio No. 2 in G major piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven 1794 piano violin cello Q1746055 Piano Trio No. 3 in C minor piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven 1794 piano violin cello Q1746059 Piano Sonata No. 20 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1795 piano Q146423 Piano Concerto No. 1 piano concerto by Ludwig van Beethoven 1795 piano orchestra Q162868 Sextet for Horns and String Quartet composition by Ludwig van Beethoven 1795 horn violin viola cello Q25212005 Piano Sonata No. 4 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1796 piano Q145985 Piano Sonata No. 6 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1796 piano Q146060 Cello Sonata No. 1 cello sonata by Ludwig van Beethoven 1796 piano cello Q1053075 Quintet for Piano and Winds quintet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1796 piano oboe clarinet bassoon horn Q3414626 Serenade for Violin, Viola and Cello composition for string trio by Ludwig van Beethoven 1796 violin viola cello Q3539404 Cello Sonata No. 2 cello sonata by Ludwig van Beethoven 1796 cello piano Q51571371 Piano Sonata No. 7 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1797 piano Q146086 Piano Sonata No. 8 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1797 piano Q146113 Piano Sonata No. 19 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1797 piano Q146396 Violin Sonata No. 1 composition for violin and piano by Beethoven 1797 piano violin Q1635731 Piano Sonata No. 9 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1798 piano Q146133 String Quartet No. 1 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1798 violin viola cello Q163616 String Quartet No. 2 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1798 violin viola cello Q210586 Violin Romance No. 2 composition for violin and orchestra by Ludwig van Beethoven 1798 violin orchestra Q210620 String Quartet No. 3 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1798 Q223543 String Quartet No. 4 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1798 Q231274 String Quartet No. 5 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1798 Q240321 Symphony No. 1 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1799 symphony orchestra Q163493 Septet composition for septet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1799 clarinet horn bassoon violin viola cello double bass Q1632146 Piano Sonata No. 11 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1800 piano Q146164 Violin Sonata No. 4 Composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1800 piano violin Q1635740 Horn Sonata composition for French horn and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1800-04 natural horn piano Q5903984 Piano Sonata No. 14 piano sonata written by Beethoven in 1801 1801 piano Q12008 Piano Sonata No. 12 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1801 piano Q146182 Piano Sonata No. 13 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1801 piano Q146203 Piano Sonata No. 15 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1801 piano Q146272 Symphony No. 2 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1801 symphony orchestra Q210451 Violin Sonata No. 6 composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1801 piano violin Q428956 Serenade for flute, violin and viola composition by Ludwig van Beethoven 1801 western concert flute violin viola Q85800408 Piano Sonata No. 16 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1802 piano Q146296 Piano Sonata No. 17 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1802 piano Q146311 Piano Sonata No. 18 Piano sonata written by Beethoven 1802 piano Q146343 Eroica Variations variations for solo piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1802 piano Q492084 Piano Sonata No. 21 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1803 piano Q146535 Symphony No. 3 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1803 Q157489 6 Variations on 'Ich denke dein', WoO 74 musical work by Ludwig van Beethoven 1803 Q125356159 Piano Sonata No. 22 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1804 piano Q146561 Piano Sonata No. 23 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1804 piano Q146614 Fidelio opera by Ludwig van Beethoven 1804 Q193778 Leonore Overture No. 2 overture composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1804 Q11349471 Leonore Overture No. 3 overture composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1805 Q11349472 Symphony No. 4 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1806 Q231117 String Quartet No. 7 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1806 violin cello viola Q261141 String Quartet No. 8 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1806 Q270886 String Quartet No. 9 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1806 Q275877 Symphony No. 5 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1807 Q188709 Cello Sonata No. 3 composition for cello and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1807 piano cello Q1053087 Coriolan Overture overture composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1807 Q1132968 Mass in C major mass composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1807 Q1760871 Leonore Overture No. 1 overture composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1807 Q11349470 Sehnsucht, WoO 134 song by Ludwig van Beethoven 1807 Q114436961 Symphony No. 6 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1808 symphony orchestra Q246433 Choral Fantasy composition for piano, vocal soloists, chorus, and orchestra by Ludwig van Beethoven 1808 piano orchestra choir soloist Q1122361 Piano Trio in E-flat major, Op.70 No.2 piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven 1808 piano violin cello Q15975830 Piano Sonata No. 24 composition for piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1809 piano Q146631 Piano Sonata No. 25 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1809 piano Q146651 Piano Sonata No. 26 piano sonata by Beethoven 1809 piano Q146669 String Quartet No. 10 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1809 violin viola cello Q164658 Piano Concerto No. 5 piano concerto by Ludwig van Beethoven 1809 piano orchestra Q239700 Egmont incidental music composed by Ludwig van Beethoven for Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's 1787 play 1809 Q1156413 Fantasia in G minor fantasia for piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1809 piano Q3066527 Musik zum Trauerspiel "Egmont" von Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. Freudvoll und leidvoll song by Ludwig van Beethoven 1809 Q114207503 String Quartet No. 11 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1810 violin viola cello Q169969 Piano Trio, Op. 97 Piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven, also known as the "Archduke Trio" 1810 piano violin cello Q905677 Für Elise composition for piano by Ludwig van Beethoven 1810-04-27 piano Q11980 Symphony No. 7 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1811 orchestra Q260957 The Ruins of Athens set of incidental pieces by Beethoven 1811 Q862609 Symphony No. 8 symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1812 Q270785 Allegretto for Piano Trio, WoO. 39 composition for piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven 1812-06 piano violin cello Q3539329 Piano Sonata No. 27 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1814 piano Q146692 Meeresstille und glückliche Fahrt cantata by Ludwig van Beethoven 1814 Q496757 Der glorreiche Augenblick, Op. 136 cantata composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1814 soprano orchestra choir bass tenor Q3705785 Elegischer Gesang composition for string quartet and four mixed voices by Ludwig van Beethoven 1814-07 voice string quartet Q5358693 Cello Sonata No. 4 cello sonata by Ludwig van Beethoven 1815 cello piano Q586125 Piano Sonata No. 28 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1816 piano Q146712 An die ferne Geliebte song cycle composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1816-04 voice piano Q482627 Piano Sonata No. 29 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1817 piano Q146730 Piano Sonata No. 30 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1820 piano Q146752 Piano Sonata No. 31 piano sonata by Beethoven 1821 piano Q146767 Piano Sonata No. 32 piano sonata written by Beethoven 1821 piano Q146793 Symphony No. 9 choral symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven 1824 symphony orchestra choir Q11989 String Quartet No. 12 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1824 Q172087 Bagatelles, Op. 126 set of piano pieces composed by Ludwig van Beethoven 1824 piano Q3485613 String Quartet No. 13 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1825 Q175565 String Quartet No. 14 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1825 Q188081 String Quartet No. 15 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1825 violin viola cello Q191560 String Quartet No. 16 composition for string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven 1826 Q194924 Fantasia 1940 American animated film 1930s Q943192 Anthem of Europe anthem of the European Union Q11993 Fantasia 2000 1999 American animated film Q30937 Das kleine Chaos 1967 Short film directed by Rainer Werner Fassbinder Q123009 Beethoven's piano sonatas piano sonatas written by Ludwig van Beethoven Q145699 Piano Sonata No. 5 piano sonata written by Beethoven piano Q146031 Piano Sonata No. 10 piano sonata written by Beethoven piano Q146148 Piano Sonatas Nos. 19 and 20 piano sonatas written by Beethoven piano Q146492 Violin Romance No. 1 (Beethoven) violin concerto violin Q163686 Rondo for piano and orchestra composition by Ludwig van Beethoven piano orchestra Q166173 Piano Concerto No. 6 musical composition by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q166250 A Married Woman 1964 film by Jean-Luc Godard Q185445 Yorckscher Marsch military march by Beethoven Q202721 Piano Concerto No. 3 work by Ludwig van Beethoven piano orchestra Q223331 Piano Concerto No. 4 Piano Concerto by Ludwig van Beethoven piano orchestra Q230772 Two or Three Things I Know About Her 1967 film by Jean-Luc Godard Q232217 String Quartet No. 6 string quartet by Ludwig van Beethoven Q246585 The Reader 1988 film by Michel Deville Q425602 To Joy 1950 film by Ingmar Bergman Q463907 Taking Sides 2001 film directed by Sebastián Szabó Q565088 Große Fuge composition for string quartet Q613618 Violin Sonata No. 5 sonata for piano and violin by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin Q669358 Passion 1982 film by Jean-Luc Godard Q672061 Missa Solemnis composition by Ludwig van Beethoven symphony orchestra Q723790 Jail Bait 1972 Film directed by Rainer Werner Fassbinder Q726419 Aus den Liedern verschiedener Völker song cycle Q777670 Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 61 concerto composed by Beethoven in 1806 Q787378 Triple Concerto concerto for piano, violin and cello by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin cello orchestra Q791981 The Orchestra Conductor 1980 Polish film by Andrzej Wajda Q833502 Viridiana 1961 film by Luis Buñuel Q852841 Turkish March Four Melody of Ruins of Anthens Q943383 All the Boys Are Called Patrick 1957 short film directed by Jean-Luc Godard Q978949 Dreaming Lips 1932 film by Paul Czinner Q989970 Cello Sonatas Nos. 1 and 2 set of sonatas by Ludwig van Beethoven piano cello Q1053078 Cello Sonatas Nos. 4 and 5 set of sonatas by Ludwig van Beethoven piano cello Q1053089 Violin Sonata No. 10 composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin Q1067735 Late String Quartets Group of related compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven Q1067898 Christ on the Mount of Olives oratorio composed by Ludwig van Beethoven, libretto by Franz Xaver Huber Q1087216 A Tale of Springtime 1990 film by Éric Rohmer Q1124867 Piano Trio in B-flat Major, Op. 11 musical composition by Ludwig van Beethoven piano clarinet cello Q1134792 Rise, O Voices of Rhodesia national anthem Q1136402 Violin Sonata No. 9 composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin Q1154601 The Creatures of Prometheus musical composition by Beethoven symphony orchestra Q1157012 Elephant 2003 drama film directed by Gus Van Sant Q1163943 Diabelli Variations musical composition by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q1207965 Colonel Chabert 1994 film by Yves Angelo Q1211134 The Consecration of the House overture by Ludwig van Beethoven Q1217412 Violin Sonata No. 3 Composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin Q1271144 Violin Sonata No. 8 composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin Q1300778 Wellington's Victory symphony Q1317902 Piano Trio in D major, Op.70 No.1 composition for piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin cello Q1338933 Copying Beethoven 2006 film by Agnieszka Holland Q1347019 32 Variations in C minor piano work by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q1350870 Piano Trios, Op. 70 set of two Piano Trios by Ludwig van Beethoven Q1410089 Streichquartett F-Dur nach Sonate op. 14,1 Q1514902 Piano Trios, Op. 1 set of three piano trios by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin cello Q1547987 Six variations on a Swiss song for piano or harp composition by Ludwig van Beethoven piano harp Q1557446 Violin Sonata No. 2 Composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin Q1635353 piano music of Beethoven Ludwig van Beethoven's piano music piano Q1746016 Oboe Concerto in F oboe concerto by Ludwig van Beethoven Q1783658 Andante favori piano Q1816117 Ludwig van 1970 television film directed by Mauricio Kagel Q1875243 Violin Sonata No. 7 composition for violin and piano by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin Q1892808 O Heimat, dich zu lieben state anthem of Lower Austria Q1988805 Visit or Memories and Confessions 1982 film by Manoel de Oliveira Q2091781 Leonore Q2108712 Rejected 2000 film by Don Hertzfeldt Q2142323 First Name: Carmen 1983 film by Jean-Luc Godard Q2296139 Once More, with Feeling! 1960 film by Stanley Donen Q2605605 King Stephen 1811 composition by Ludwig van Beethoven Q2754024 Bagatellen für Klavier von Beethoven Q2878997 Beethoven string quartets string quartets by Ludwig van Beethoven Q2917128 Two rondos for piano piano compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q3025008 Joyful, Joyful We Adore Thee poem Q3179058 Phantom Life 1992 film by Jacques Leduc Q3213664 Night 1930 animated short Silly Symphonies film directed by Walt Disney Q3346101 Bagatelles, Op. 119 piano piece by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q3352885 Ouvertures pour Fidelio Q3358702 String Quintet, Op. 4 string quintet by Ludwig van Beethoven Q3414632 Bagatelles, Op. 33 set of piano pieces by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q3478907 Sonate opus 6 piano Q3490074 Sonatina in G major sonatina for piano composed by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q3490278 The Pastoral Symphony 1940 segment from Disney's Fantasia directed by Hamilton Luske, Ford Beebe Jr. and Jim Handley Q3507876 Piano Trio, WoO. 38 piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin cello Q3539328 String Trio, Op. 3 composition by Beethoven Q3539400 String Trio in G Major, Op. 9, No. 1 composition for violin, viola, and cello by Ludwig van Beethoven Q3539402 String Trio in D Major, Op. 9 No. 2 composition for string trio by Ludwig van Beethoven Q3539406 String Trio in C Minor, Op. 9 No. 3 composition for string trio by Ludwig van Beethoven Q3539407 Variations on an original theme in E-flat major piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin cello Q3554775 Kakadu Variations musical composition by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin cello Q3554779 Zur Namensfeier concert overture composed by Ludwig van Beethoven Q3576293 String Quartets Nos. 1–6, Op. 18 group of compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven Q3927115 String Quartets Nos. 7 – 9, Opus 59 group of compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven Q3927118 The Old Monk's Tale 1913 film Q3988546 Christmas animated film directed by Mikhail Aldashin Q4396243 Beethoven Lives Upstairs 1992 film directed by David Devine Q4880186 Beethoven Romance ballet Q4880188 Black Sin 1989 film directed by Danièle Huillet and Jean-Marie Straub Q4921850 Las verdes praderas 1979 film by José Luis Garci Q5405631 Four Bagatelles ballet Q5475023 Fugue for String Quintet, Op. 137 1817 musical composition Q5507304 Ah! perfido aria composed by Ludwig van Beethoven Q5661015 Germania Q5958958 Impressing the Czar 1988 ballet by William Forsythe Q6007584 Late Piano Sonatas piano sonatas by Beethoven Q6495341 Minuet WoO 10, No. 2 Wikimedia disambiguation page Q6869765 Overture 1965 Hungarian documentary short film Q7114050 Sonatina in Bes composition Q7560845 String Quintet, Op. 104 String quintet by Ludwig van Beethoven Q7623957 Ten National Airs with Variations for Flute and Piano composition by Ludwig van Beethoven flute piano Q7699268 Three Piano Sonatas, WoO 47 piano Q7797692 Twenty-Five Scottish Songs Q7857725 Zärtliche Liebe Song by Ludwig van Beethoven Q8076022 Beethoven Symphonies 2003 box set by Simon Rattle conducting the Wiener Philharmoniker Q9168314 Sonaty fortepianowe op. 10 Beethovena Q9339478 Sonaty fortepianowe op. 14 Beethovena Q9339479 Sonaty fortepianowe op. 27 Beethovena Q9339480 Sonaty fortepianowe op. 2 Beethovena Q9339481 Sonaty fortepianowe op. 31 Beethovena Q9339482 Visan om solen, månen och planeterna song Q10716037 6 Minuets composition by Ludwig van Beethoven Q11188158 キッスは目にして! 1981 single Q11296777 Flute Sonata in B-flat major composition attributed to Ludwig van Beethoven Q11333957 Drumroll 1993 film by Sergey Ovcharov Q15270473 Egmont Overture composition by Ludwig van Beethoven, part of his incidental music to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's 1787 play Q15622682 Eyeglass Duo Q15730673 Ihr weisen Gründer glücklicher Staaten Q15819926 Cantata on the Death of Emperor Joseph II cantata by Ludwig van Beethoven Q15822600 Kantate auf die Erhebung Leopolds II. zur Kaiserwürde Q15822601 Piano Trio, Op. 38 piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven piano clarinet violin cello Q15823775 Quintettsatz in D minor Beethoven Q15964610 Nine variations for piano on a march by Ernst Christoph Dressler composition for piano by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q15990868 Bagatelle for piano in B-flat major piano piece by Ludwig van Beethoven piano Q15990878 Œuvres diverses pour piano de Beethoven piano Q15990961 Œuvres pour faire danser de Beethoven piano Q15990962 Œuvres pour orgue de Beethoven organ Q15990963 Rondos pour piano de Beethoven piano Q15990980 Gegenliebe Q15990987 The Magnificent Rebel 1962 film directed by Georg Tressler Q16679669 4. Allegro con brio fourth movement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 Q16738504 2. Allegretto second movement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 Q16738506 String Quintet, Op. 29 composition by Beethoven for 2 violins, 2 violas and cello Q17025624 String Trios, Op. 9 three string trios by Ludwig van Beethoven Q17025632 Heinrich 1977 film by Helma Sanders-Brahms Q18519729 1. Poco sostenuto - Vivace first movement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 Q19371593 3. Presto third movement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 Q19372928 Violin Concerto in C unfinished concerto by Beethoven Q19898162 Angeli 2002 animated film directed by Lejf Marcussen Q20728124 Gold 2015 film by Alexander Tuschinski Q21646447 Piano Sonata, WoO. 51 Beethoven piano sonata Q21998369 Felix 1988 film Q23899941 Polonaise in C major composition by Ludwig van Beethoven Q24869544 Vestas Feuer opera by Ludwig van Beethoven Q24964354 Trio for Piano, Flute and Bassoon trio by Ludwig van Beethoven piano flute bassoon Q25203355 Hymne an die Nacht Q28053422 Symphony No. 5 segment from Disney's Fantasia 2000 directed by Pixote Hunt Q28943917 Dancing Beethoven 2017 film by Arantxa Aguirre Q29051801 Two Preludes Through all Major Keys work by Beethoven Q29364169 Choral Fantasy in C Minor, Op. 80 Q42187855 Three Equals for four trombones, WoO 30 Q42377957 Piano Trio No. 1 in E-flat major piano trio by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin cello Q43259891 Fidelio 1956 film Q47364518 Egmont (Schauspielhaus Zürich) theatrical production of Schauspielhaus Zurich during the season 1949-1950 Q47423921 Cello Sonata No. 5 cello sonata by Ludwig van Beethoven cello piano Q51571146 Ha! Welch' ein Augenblick! aria from the opera Fidelio by Beethoven, Ludwig van Q54970942 Hat man nicht auch Gold beineben aria from the opera Fidelio by Beethoven, Ludwig van Q54970943 Abscheulicher! Wo eilst du hin?... Komm, Hoffnung, lass den letzten Stern aria from the opera Fidelio by Beethoven, Ludwig van Q54970952 O wär ich schon aria from the opera Fidelio by Beethoven, Ludwig van Q54970970 Gott! welch' Dunkel hier! aria from the opera Fidelio by Beethoven, Ludwig van Q54970984 Piano Quartets set of piano quartets by Ludwig van Beethoven piano violin viola cello Q55314539 25 Irish Songs musical work by Ludwig van Beethoven Q56291744 Prometheus ballet production by the Royal Ballet of Flanders Q56459125 Repertoireavond Quatuor n. 4 / Verklärte Nacht / Die Große Fuge (2006-2007) performing arts production Q57501210 Egmont (2017-2018) performing arts production Q57503184 Impressing the Czar (2005-2006) performing arts production Q57503332 Fidelio (Franse versie) (2015-2016) performing arts production Q57504341 Solo's for Others (2003-2004) performing arts production Q57505363 Kreutzersonate, Als het verlangen maar stopt (2015-2016) performing arts production Q57505774 Fidelio performing arts production Q57506000 Métamorphoses (2000-2001) performing arts production Q57506168 Fidelio (Franse versie) (2016-2017) performing arts production Q57507318 Fidelio (2002-2003) performing arts production Q57507449 De Kreutzersonates (2004-2005) performing arts production Q57507779 Fidelio (2017-2018) performing arts production Q57507895 Fidelio (2016-2017) performing arts production Q57508866 Lang zullen ze leven (1997-1998) performing arts production Q57509369 Bartók/Beethoven/Schönberg Repertory Evening (2015-2016) performing arts production Q57510959 Kreutzersonate, Als het verlangen maar stopt (2014-2015) performing arts production Q57511732 Fidelio (1993-1994) performing arts production Q57513663 Kinok (1993-1994) performing arts production Q57698512 Ode for Washington's Birthday version of song in 1893 song book Q59176664 Concord Hymn version of song in 1893 song book Q59279101 Till the Happy End 1968 film by Theodor Kotulla Q60066755 Sonata for Piano 4 hands in D major, Op. 6 1797 sonata by Ludwig van Beethoven Q60767697 Es ist vollbracht chorus by Ludwig van Beethoven Q60787011 Hlas můj nech tu znít 1967 album by Karel Gott Q65561078 Beethoven: Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67 Recording of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony by Barış Demirezer and Ankara Youth Symphony Orchestra Q72588970 Rondo in C major, Op. 51, No. 1 rondo by Ludwig van Beethoven Q80790579 Rondo in G major, Op. 51, No. 2 rondo by Ludwig van Beethoven Q80790580 Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: I. Allegro con brio Recording of the first movement of Beethoven's fifth symphony by Barış Demirezer and Ankara Gençlik Senfoni Orkestrası Q81892284 Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: II. Andante con moto Recording of the second movement of Beethoven's fifth symphony by Barış Demirezer and Ankara Gençlik Senfoni Orkestrası Q81893015 Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: III. Scherzo (Allegro) Recording of the third movement of Beethoven's fifth symphony by Barış Demirezer and Ankara Gençlik Senfoni Orkestrası Q81893134 Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: IV. Allegro Recording of the fourth movement of Beethoven's fifth symphony by Barış Demirezer and Ankara Gençlik Senfoni Orkestrası Q81893481 10 Variacions Wo O73 Beethoven Q97192827 Beethoven - Piano Trios, Vol.1 2020 album Q98590228 I. Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso First movement of Symphony no. 9 composed by Ludwig van Beethoven orchestra Q104602783 II. Scherzo. Molto vivace – Presto Second movement of Symphony no. 9 composed by Ludwig van Beethoven orchestra Q104602819 III. Adagio molto e cantabile Third movement of Symphony no. 9 composed by Ludwig van Beethoven orchestra Q104602835 IV. Finale Fourth movement of Symphony no. 9 composed by Ludwig van Beethoven orchestra choir soprano alto tenor bass Q104602850 弦楽四重奏曲 ヘ長調 Hess 34 Q105197451 Friend of the World 2020 film directed by Brian Patrick Butler Q107791285 Beethoven: Klaviertrios 1991 studio album by Canadian Trio Q109045316 Germany hymn tune attributed to Ludwig van Beethoven and published by Wlliam Gardiner Q110250469 Gustav Mahler's orchestration of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 mahler's orchestratrion of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 Q110618059 Adelaïde (transcription) piano roll published by M. Welte & Söhne in 1905 piano Q112324996 Sonata C sharp minor (moonlight) piano roll published by M. Welte & Söhne in 1907 piano Q112325014 Moonlight sonata C sharp minor. piano roll published by Welte-Mignon in 1907 piano Q112325018 Sonate pathétique piano roll published by M. Welte & Söhne in 1907 piano Q112756644 Sonata appassionata op. 57, F minor. 1st movement piano roll published by M. Welte & Söhne in 1909 piano Q112756655 Комендант Лаутербурга 1969 Soviet television film by Pavel Reznikov Q113290719 Beethoven: Complete Edition 2019 box set of compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven Q113958709 Gesänge, op. 75. Kennst du das Land song by Ludwig van Beethoven Q114133031 Hymn to Joy melody composed by Ludwig van Beethoven; also used as a hymn tune Q114458279 Beethoven in Havana arrangement of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 by Joachim Horsley piano Q115206111 Sonata op. 111, C minor piano roll published by Welte-Mignon in 1909 piano Q116155102 Gesänge, op. 83. Mit einem gemalten Band song by Ludwig van Beethoven Q116975000 Månaderna lyrical adaptation of "Visan om solen, månen och planeterna" with the lines "rika härliga framgå" replaced by "Härlig sommar är det då" Q125709555 GORTON (Beethoven) hymn tune by Ludwig van Beethoven Q127050577 Gods and Dogs Q130724982 VI. symfonie F-dur Pastorální Q130725455 L'île des pirates 1835 ballet-pantomime Q130775641 End of auto-generated list.

Milenko Stefanović - overciting problem

Dear classical music experts: The above article has a lot of overciting, among other issues. Could someone who is familiar with classical music sources maybe remove some unnecessary references and select just a few external links? I remove a reference to a record store and one to ebay. Thanks!—Anne Delong (talk) 04:05, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

János Scholz

Hello. Feel free to help me expand János Scholz. I don't believe Discogs is an RS, but it would be good to add that he played Mozart, Schubert, etc...We need an RS first though.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:57, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Need help reviewing Draft:Elliot Wuu

Could somebody take a look at Draft:Elliot Wuu. I'm trying to figure out if it meets item 9 (Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition) of WP:MUSICBIO, but I'm not familar with the awards so I can't judge if they meet the major music competition requirement. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:33, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey

Hi. I haven't posted here before, but I was wondering what editors in this topic area thought about this (I don't edit classical music articles frequently).

I'm planning to propose some sort of limited MuseScore integration with MediaWiki at the Community Wishlist Survey, since (a) there don't seem to be a lot of correctly licensed recordings of public domain music which are newer than 95 years; (b) MIDI can already be uploaded to Commons but can't be played, so this isn't really unprecedented; (c) MuseScore generally has better playback and editing than the Score extension (in my opinion); (d) allowing MuseScore files to be uploaded to Commons would have general positive effects for other MuseScore users and musicians; (e) Commons and WP would get to benefit from the OpenScore project's development.

The specific things that would probably be requested would be

• (definitely) allowing Commons uploads of .mscz and .mscx files
• (probably) allowing the sheet music and/or audio of the files to be displayed (as PDF and OGG respectively) when used with normal file syntax
• (maybe) creation of standard template files for MuseScore files, such as a file for displaying a one-line snippet of sheet music

Would these things be generally beneficial for classical music articles? Is there something I've missed that would be helpful? (In general it doesn't really help with the prose part of articles, but there's only so much that software changes would ameliorate.) Jc86035 (talk) 17:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Posted at m:Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Multimedia and Commons/Allowing upload, rendering and playback of MuseScore files. Jc86035 (talk) 17:35, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Appropriation (music)

The important article is being considered for deletion. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 07:16, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Augustin Hadelich

Largely a promo 'sourced' by the website of his agent, it seems.....anyone fancy cutting it down to size?--Smerus (talk) 17:17, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

• I've now had a go at it.--Smerus (talk) 21:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Komorniki Festival of Organ and Chamber Music

Was wondering if someone more familiar with classical music or classical music concerts/festival could take a look at this and assess it for WP:NEVENT. None of the content is supported by citations to any reliable sources and many of the participants don't appear to be Wikipedia notable musicians or musical groups. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:24, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiJournal of Humanities published first article

The WikiJournal of Humanities is a free, peer reviewed academic journal which aims to provide a new mechanism for ensuring the accuracy of Wikipedia's humanities, arts and social sciences content. We started it as a way of bridging the Wikipedia-academia gap. It is also part of a WikiJournal User Group along with Wiki.J.Med and Wiki.J.Sci. The journal is still starting out and not yet well known, so we are advertising ourselves to WikiProjects that might be interested.

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• Invite submissions from non-wikipedians
• Coordinate the organisation of external academic peer review
• Format accepted articles
• Promote the journal

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• New Wikipedia articles on topics that don't yet have a Wikipedia page, or only a stub/start
• Existing Wikipedia articles to be externally peer reviewed (analogous to GA / FA review - see submission page)
• Image articles, based around an important images, photographs or summary diagrams

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• Miles, Dudley; et al. (2018). "Æthelflæd, Lady of the Mercians". WikiJournal of Humanities. 1 (1): 1. doi:10.15347/wjh/2018.001. ISSN 2639-5347.

T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 09:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Silent Night's 200th anniversary is on December 24th

Autograph (c. 1860) of the carol by Franz Gruber

Hi all. "Silent Night" was first performed on Christmas Eve in 1818, and consequently will appear on the Main page in the "On this day" section on December 24th. As the article is within the scope of this Wikiproject I figured editors here might be interested in improving it before then. There are no major issues with it that I can see, but it's also rather short and I feel certain it could be significantly expanded if interested editors had a go at it. I'd be happy to help out, of course, but as this isn't remotely my field I fear I have very little to contribute. Any takers? (PS. Cross-posting this to WP:CM and WP:SONGS as the most relevant Wikiprojects with recent activity.) --Xover (talk) 10:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

RILM Music Encyclopedias

I just had a chance to examine a resource RILM Music Encyclopedias - scanned/encoded versions of 54 dictionaries/encyclopedias. It's available at my public library but not from home (perhaps some academic institutions make it available from home for alumni). The list of encyclopedias is very interesting - I know a number of these works are among the only places to find biographical information on certain musicians:

• Algemene muziekencyclopedie
• Annals of Opera
• Band Music Notes
• Biographical Dictionary of Afro-American and African Musicians
• Biographical Dictionary of Musicians: With a Bibliography of English Writings on Music
• Biographical Dictionary of Russian/Soviet Composers
• Biographie universelle des musiciens et bibliographie générale de la musique
• Biographisch-bibliographisches Quellen-Lexikon
• Blasmusik-Lexikon: Komponisten – Autoren – Werke – Literatur
• Broadway: Its History, People, and Places: An Encyclopedia
• Československý hudební slovník osob a institucí
• Concise Garland Encyclopedia of World Music
• Conductors and Composers of Popular Orchestral Music: A Biographical and Discographical Sourcebook
• Dictionary of American classical composers
• Dictionary of Music and Musicians (A.D. 1450–1889)
• Dictionary of the Avant-Gardes
• Dictionnaire de la musique: Les hommes et leurs œuvres
• Dictionnaire de la musique: Science de la musique: Formes, techniques, instruments
• Dictionnaire de musique
• Dictionnaire des œuvres de l’art vocal
• Dizionario degli editori musicali italiani, 1750–1930
• Dizionario e bibliografia della musica
• Dizionario universale dei musicisti (Schmidl)
• Enciclopédia da música brasileira
• Encyclopedia of American Gospel Music
• Encyclopedia of Music in the 20th Century
• Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound
• Encyclopedia of the American Theatre Organ
• Encyclopedia of the Blues
• Encyclopédie de la musique et dictionnaire du Conservatoire
• Garland Encyclopedia of World Music
• Gothic- und Dark Wave-Lexikon: Das Lexikon der schwarzen Szene, von Ambient bis Industrial, von Neofolk bis Future Pop und von Goth-Rock bis Black Metal
• Großes Sängerlexikon
• Handwörterbuch der musikalischen Terminologie
• Historical Dictionary of the Music and Musicians of Finland
• Hollywood Songsters: Singers Who Act and Actors Who Sing: A Biographical Dictionary
• Hugo Riemanns Musik-Lexikon
• International Encyclopedia of Women Composers
• Komponisten der Gegenwart
• March Music Notes
• Melodramma italiano: Dizionario bio-bibliografico dei compositori
• Neues Historisch-biographisches Lexikon der Tonküstler
• Opernlexikon
• Paris Opéra: An Encyclopedia of Operas, Ballets, Composers, and Performers
• Percussionists: A biographical dictionary (JRG)
• Steirisches Musiklexikon
• Tin Pan Alley: An Encyclopedia of the Golden Age of American Song
• The 20th century violin concertante
• Παγκοσμιο Λεξικο Της Μουσικης [Pagkosmio Lexiko Tes Mousikes]

Hope this is of some use. - kosboot (talk) 00:37, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

A link to a DAB page

Piano Concerto No. 1 (Liszt) contains a link to the DAB page Diminished chord. Does anyone know what particular chord this is? Thanks in advance, Narky Blert (talk) 11:23, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Flute sonata and Flute Sonata

There are four pairs of an article and a disambiguation page – Bassoon concerto and Bassoon Concerto, Flute sonata and Flute Sonata, Organ concerto and Organ Concerto, Trumpet concerto and Trumpet Concerto. The first member of each pair is an article about the form (with a large list of compositions), whereas the second one is a disambiguation page listing a small number of articles that have this as a title. I'm not sure this is optimal. The articles already contain all the content (and more) of the dab page, so the dab page seems kind of unnecessary. But on the other hand, I guess it's convenient for a reader who types say "Organ Concerto" to be able to get to a place that lists only the articles about compositions that are actually known as "Organ Concerto". Any thoughts? – Uanfala (talk) 00:29, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I am very unhappy about pairs of articles which use a slightly artificial capitalisation (arguably misusing the WP title rules about the specific and the general) to distinguish between a general article and what is effectively a list. There's inevitably going to be omission and duplication. I note also that Flute sonata and Flute Sonata don't cross-refer to each other.

I would much prefer a single article on the general topic which included a list; or, if the article be large, a split into a general article and a list article. As always: what are our readers looking for? and how can we best help them find it? I don't see the need for such DAB pages at all, and I spend most of my time on WP working with DAB pages. A reader looking for a particular composition will almost always know the name of the composer.

No-one is even finding the DAB pages. Who types capitals into the search box? Views in the last 30 days - Flute sonata 305, Flute Sonata 9. That's background noise.

This whole area may be a mess. While composing this post, I came across:

1. String trio. I like this article, although the description is a bit stubby. It could do with an explanation of why the form is so rare (answer: because it leaves the composer very exposed [citation needed]). (If anyone can work out where the two stray }} pairs are coming from and get rid of them, you'll have my thanks.)
2. String quartet. The section 'Notable quartets' is horribly WP:POV and has no inclusion criteria. It includes some composers I'd never heard of (Robert Volkmann, anyone?) and omits others (e.g. no List of compositions by Benjamin Britten#String quartet). I greatly prefer the incomplete but potentially comprehensive List of compositions for string quartet to a subjective list like that.
3. Horn Concerto is another DAB page. Horn concerto is a redirect to List of compositions for horn. That article has several problems, most obviously:
   1. The list is said to be selective, but there are no inclusion criteria.
   2. Many of the composers are redlinked and unsourced. Some, but probably not all, will be notable and may have articles in other WPs. (E.g. I've just {{ill}}-linked Johann Gottfried Schuncke.) I suggest the inclusion criteria should be: bluelink, {{ill}} link, or WP:RS citation for the composer.
   3. The list is divided by partly by era and partly by date. (1) Era is subjective. (Don't even try to fit Beethoven's compositions into tidy boxes labelled 'Classical' and 'Romantic'.) (2) There are anomalies. Richard Strauss' 2nd Concerto (which wasn't bluelinked until just now) is listed as a Romantic work (I wouldn't argue with that) but not as a 20th century work (composed 1942, premiered 1943). In contrast, Ethyl Smyth's Concerto for Violin, Horn and Orchestra (1926) is listed as being a 20th century work rather than as Romantic. I much prefer the approach of ordering either alphabetically by composer's surname or by composer's date of birth (or by both, in a sortable list).

Narky Blert (talk) 11:12, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I've worked my way through List of compositions for horn. In total, I turned 34 redlinks either into bluelinks or into {{ill}} links. Narky Blert (talk) 20:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

I would support merging as many of the smaller articles, DAB articles into the larger articles. I would also support organizing by date rather than start debates over what eras something belongs in. oncamera 13:36, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I too prefer birthdate as the best means of organisation. It's neutral, unambiguous, and puts things in historical context. Narky Blert (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

WikiProject Classical music

Hi, I noticed the WikiProject Classical music tag on a person's article talk page does not display class or importance the way WikiProject Biography or other WikiProjects display the parameter status. When you click on edit, you see that |class=start is insert. Is this feature broken? Look at talk page of Paul Daniel for example. SWP13 (talk) 16:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Classical music (the project) doesn't rate articles, other than GA and FA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Music conductors

Hi, I noticed that many music conductors don't have a subcategory in WikiProject Biography. Since a conductor of an orchestra must have a music related degree. Is it correct to assume a conductor is a musician? I think musician-work-group=yes in WikiProject Biography is appropriate using examples such as Colin Davis, Paul Daniel, and many other male conductors. I wanted an expert opinion before I start inserting to conductors in Category:Women conductors (music). Thanks, SWP13 (talk) 17:49, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

(Conductors don't need a music-related degree. They just need to conduct. :) ) But WikiProject Biography is a totally different group - you should be asking them. Meanwhile, I assume, WikiProject Classical music will continue to tag based on the group's interest. - kosboot (talk) 01:03, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Degree or not, I agree that conductors are always musicians. But I also agree that adding |musician-work-group=yes to {{WikiProject Biography}} is a matter for the WP:WikiProject Biography. As for this project: not all conductors fall into its scope, typically not those that can also be found in Category:Bandleaders. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:25, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

I'd say they should be musicians, because they "make" music, but am used to the phrase "the singers and the musicians" which sounds as if not even singers were musicians. Certainly correct to bring it up at Biography whose template it is. Sorry for the detour from my talk page to there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Music and music periodical publisher

I am having trouble getting approval at AfC for Draft:S. Brainard Sons. I would be happy to have help. Thanks. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I've moved it into article space, FloridaArmy. A clearly notable topic. Frankly, if I were you, I'd avoid the vagaries of the AfC process. I've rescued dozens of classical music-related articles from their clutches. The reviewers often lack the expertise and knowledge to evaluate pre-21st century topics. Voceditenore (talk) 15:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Heritage Orchestra

Hello. I know it says "non-classical" but I still think this might be the right place to ask. I would be grateful if someone with experience of orchestral articles would please have a quick look at Heritage Orchestra. It seems recently to have become somewhat POV-ish in parts of its language, and has acquired an unfeasibly (perhaps just in my opinion) lengthy chronology. For reasons too boring to recount here I don't want to get into editing it and indeed I don't have much that experience with orchestral articles per se. Just as a reader/observer I am unsure that its recent direction is wholly appropriate, though I certainly do appreciate the editor's efforts (pinging Luxemotor for transparency) to make it more current. Best to all, DBaK (talk) 09:08, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi DBaK. Even though they claim to be "non-classical", they do perform some contemporary classical music, e.g. John Cage, Vangelis, etc.. That article was an appalling piece of blatant advertising. I have removed it, along with their plug for a tour later this year. The Chronology of live performances and collaborations section is largely unreferenced and contains multiple non-notable or marginal performances and "collaborations". I have tagged it accordingly. After 7 days, all listings which are unreferenced will be removed. This is an encyclopedia, not the auxiliary website for Heritage Orchestra or free storage for their archives. A chronology like that belongs on their official website not here. I have elaborated on these issues at Talk:Heritage Orchestra and cautioned the editor involved. Nevertheless, the article needs more eyes. Voceditenore (talk) 11:07, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Voceditenore – I just had a quick look and it is a much much better read and feels much more appropriate in terms of its view and our voice. I really appreciate your help. Cheers DBaK (talk) 13:04, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Gee, no reviews. I look forward to that chronology being deleted. - kosboot (talk) 14:46, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

The irony of this, kosboot, is that they are quite notable in their niche with multiple articles/reviews in the Financial Times, The Guardian, Daily Telegraph etc.. But they seem to be more interested in promoting themselves than in writing a decent encyclopedia article. Alas, for them, I'm not going to help them. Voceditenore (talk) 15:12, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Joseph Flummerfelt

Hello. I was bold and re-created Joseph Flummerfelt after reading his obituary in The New York Times.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Move?

A move discussion which comcerns naming of classical music compositions is held at Talk:Trois Chansons (Ravel). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Odd

Talk:Three Songs, 1926. Wouldn't this in fact be Three songs (John Ireland, 1926) In ictu oculi (talk) 09:09, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Likewise Three Songs, 1926, Two Songs, 1916, Two Songs, 1917–18, Two Songs, 1920, Two Songs, 1928 ---- it's as if John Ireland is the world's only song composer. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:12, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

General question

The question is how to treat titles that are the combination of a numeral and a generic name. Trois Chansons (or 3 Chansons) is only one example. IMSLP has standardized names: numeral in digits, name, + in brackets composer's surname and full given name. While I don't support to adopt that (imagine Bach cantatas with the added long name of the composer), I think to have no dab is bad in these cases. We have 3 Songs and Four Songs for a good reason. (No idea why different style.) - For the above, it could be Three Songs (Ireland, 1926), and perhaps Three Songs (Ireland) for the one people will think of first, if one of them is, - compare Ave Maria (Bruckner), although he set it three times, and all have articles. - We should capitalize what follows the numeral, therefore we have Trois Chansons (Ravel (not Trois chansons). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:23, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

• I like that naming convention. I would also suggest moving 3 Songs to Three Songs. I thought it was the manual of style to write out any numbers less than ten. oncamera 10:17, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
• I have not particular preference, but something like Three Songs (composer name, year) would seem to be most Wikipedia consistent In ictu oculi (talk) 13:28, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
• It should certainly be Three Songs (Ireland) (as '1926' is not part of the title), and I am going to be WP:BOLD and move it there.--Smerus (talk) 17:26, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

• except that I completely f***** the move, so I'm now going off to down a large vodka......--Smerus (talk) 17:36, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Is that a case for Graham who does all page moves I can't handle (but will be asleep now? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Do I understand it right: the three entries from the present dab page "Three Songs (Ireland)" should go to "3 Songs" which should go to "Three Songs", and "Three Songs, 1926" should replace the present dab page? And care should be taken, that links work as planned even after the moves? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

It all seems good to be now. Graham87 04:35, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Nope, what we now have is had was Three Songs (Ireland) being a redirect to Three Songs, which is wrong. What we ought to have is Three Songs (Ireland) being the main article, and Three Songs (1926) being a redirect to Three Songs (Ireland). And then a dismabig entry for Three Songs (Ireland) in Three Songs. But as I am so cack-handed I had better not venture on this myself.--Smerus (talk) 08:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

In fact I took my courage in both hands and have done the deed. Also put headers in all 3 articles about Ireland's sets of 3 songs.--Smerus (talk) 08:40, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Monumentum pro Gesualdo

Monumentum pro Gesualdo is, of course, a work by Stravinsky. I was rather surprised, therefore, to find that our article Monumentum pro Gesualdo is almost entirely about a Balanchine ballet and barely mentions the Stravinsky work that it is based on. How should this be redressed? Separate articles? If so, the Stravinsky should surely be at the base name. Or is it better to try to cover both in one article? --Deskford (talk) 22:57, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Mainly because two or three editors added fucktons of cruft some years ago and no one cared, because ballet. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 05:01, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Notability/sourcing advice?

Hi, I was hoping to write a short article for Richard Einhorn's (1999) six-movement cantata "A Carnival of Miracles", but I myself was not able to find that many sources, namely: Einhorn's personal website [1], an interview with Einhorn [2], the American Record Guide review of a CD which included a performance of this work [3], and the notes for said CD from the radio station which produced it [4]. It seems enough to write a short article, but I'm pretty sure they're not enough to demonstrate notability. Classical music isn't really my wheelhouse, so I would greatly appreciate if you knew of any ideas for sources I may have overlooked or if you think I'm being overly conservative with my view that what I've found doesn't demonstrate notability. I've gathered my findings on Talk:Richard Einhorn but figured I'd ask in a hopefully more-viewed area before I prepare to walk away from the idea of writing this article altogether.

Thanks for any advice and help. Umimmak (talk) 04:47, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

It seems like a relatively new composition in comparison to many classical music topics here on Wikipedia. Sometimes there's just not a lot information available at this time. I looked on jstor and didn't see anything, but maybe there's a listed partner on Wikipedia's library that you can apply for free access to find something more substantial? oncamera 16:25, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Umimmak, I'm not sure they are enough to clearly demonstrate notability. Wikipedia is getting mighty fussy about these things now. Only the last two are independent sources. I don't have access to the American Record Guide review of the CD which also included works by 6 other composers, but it would have had to devote a considerable amount of space specifically to A Carnival of Miracles. Apart from the CD, has it ever been performed in the concert hall? Another problem is that the Richard Einhorn article is itself very short on biographical information and very poorly referenced. I'm wondering if it might not be better to expand and improve that article, and include a separate section that discusses his concert works in some detail, e.g. A Carnival of Miracles. At present they are simply listed in a bulleted list devoid of dates and reviews. Alternative, you could take a chance and make a separate article. If it got taken to AfD, the worst that could happen would be that the material would merged into Richard Einhorn. Voceditenore (talk) 17:18, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@Oncamera and Voceditenore: thanks for your replies. This is all the ARG says about the work: Then comes a major work by Richard Einhorn, a six-movement cantata lasting well over half an hour performed by the excellent Anonymous 4 accompanied by two cellos. This is a fascinating work employing several languages. There are no texts or translations, only a website where you may find the words, all of which deal with freedom. That takes the bloom off the production, reminding me of another reason why I stopped listening to John Schaefer's program: he tends to be more involved with music's sound than its substance. Nowhere in his chatty notes is Einhorn's work given its due as an important composition; it is by far the most extended and unusual piece here. It is also beautifully performed, with impressive feats of derring-do from both singers and cellists. But we need those texts! It has been performed in concert, but I only have been able to find brief mentionings in paper listing about performances, no serious reviews. I'm less familiar with Einhorn the person or even the rest of his oeuvre, but maybe I'll come back to this later and properly expand the article. I was also thinking about also writing a short article instead for the album The WNYC Commissions, Volume One, but can find even less information about that. Anyway, I figured what was out there was not enough for a safe bet for an article, so thank you both for giving your additional opinions and confirming this. Maybe in a few years there will be more information or I'll feel more gutsy about trying to rewrite the article on Einhorn. Umimmak (talk) 19:23, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Billboard "Classical Crossover Albums" charts?

Hi, Are any of you familiar with Billboard's Classical Crossover Albums chart? I asked about this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums#Help with article -- understanding sources for charts / release dates, but it seems like people more familiar with classical music might also be better to help me. I think an album whose article I'm writing, Anthony de Mare's (2015) Liaisons: Re-Imagining Sondheim from the Piano, charted, but I can't really find any sources about this chart, compared to say, the Top Classical Albums chart.

In trying to find information about this, I was only able to find a few pages labeled "Artist Index" for Billboard, but they seemed to provide the chart information. The key at the top of the page said CX (Classical Crossover), and the ones I was able to find said: Oct 17 2015 "Anthony de Mare: CX 11"; Oct 24 2015; "Anthony de Mare: CX 11"; Nov 14 2015 "Anthony de Mare: CX 15". These weeks would match up with the time period it charted on the Top Classical Albums chart which has more information (Oct 17 2015, Oct 24 2015, Oct 31 2015, Nov 14 2015). Are these "artist indexes" valid sources? Why can't I find anything else about the weekly Classical Crossover Albums charts? Help on this would be appreciated, thanks! Umimmak (talk) 22:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

De profundis

I once left a question on the talk of Psalm 130, but no answer, so I try here: The article states "This psalm has been frequently set to music, as part of musical settings for the Requiem, especially under its Latin incipit "De profundis". Problem: It's NOT part of the Requiem text, and the list looks more or less copied from Requiem, without sources. Mozart? Not that I'd know. Should we perhaps restrict the list to sourced settings of the psalm? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Asking again: I suggest to through out all not referenced, unless you protest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

WikiProject:Musicology?

There's a nice review of Wikipedia in the current issue of the Journal of the American Musicological Society. It encourages musicologists to become involved. I'm wondering if an enticement might be formation of a WikiProject Musicology. Your thoughts? - kosboot (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Wedding March (Mendelssohn)

If someone skilled in such things can/want to add an audiofile to this article, it would be a good thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Voices in choir

For a girls' choir, the question came up how to translate the German "gleiche Stimmen", meaning "equal voices", only high voices (sopranos and altos), or only low voices (tenors and basses). Choir was no help, but I learned that there's a big difference between a male choir and a men's choir. A German Knabenchor would then be a male choir, or is a boys's choir the same? Why don't we have an article Girls' choir, and one Women's choir, but category:Girls' and women's choirs? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

No answer, articles still red links? It looks biased. See Mädchenkantorei Limburg. I believe that the several girls's choirs deserve their own category. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

A proposal for WikiJournals to become a new sister project

Over the last few years, the WikiJournal User Group has been building and testing a set of peer reviewed academic journals on a mediawiki platform. The main types of articles are:

• Existing Wikipedia articles submitted for external review and feedback (example)
• From-scratch articles that, after review, are imported to Wikipedia (example)
• Original research articles that are not imported to Wikipedia (example)

Proposal: WikiJournals as a new sister project

From a Wikipedian point of view, this is a complementary system to Featured article review, but bridging the gap with external experts, implementing established scholarly practices, and generating citable, doi-linked publications.

Please take a look and support/oppose/comment! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 11:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

New article

Hello all...I just started an article, Hickford's Long Room, about a concert hall in London (1713 - c. 1779) in which a variety of then popular but now classical music was performed. Looking up the name "Hickford's" in Newspapers.com or Newspaperarchive.com brings up articles from the era, with the names of singers and instrumentalist performers. At a glance, I would say there is potential to bring out some of these early performers and give them a modern presence in the new article. I will add some myself, but there are a lot of names to research. Welcome to anyone.Jacqke (talk) 14:10, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi

Dear fellow members of WikiProject Classical music, I just want to inform you that i have joined your project. If you ask, i am learning here in Greece in a conservatoire piano, violin and flute (i am in a relatively high class on the 2 first), so i have a good background in classical music. Because i am new in Wikipedia, i will try doing simple and middle-difficulty things in the start. I hope i will prove useful. Best regards, Enivak (talk) 13:41, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear Enivak, welcome to WP:CM! Should any questions arise during your editing experience here, please don't hesitate to leave a message either here or on my talk page Zingarese talk · contribs 13:46, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! i will try my best! Enivak (talk) 13:48, 5 July 2019 (UTC)