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Collaboration with the Wine Project on British Columbia wine articles?

Apologizes to the editors on WP:CANADA who will see a similar invite
Hello! For 2011, the Wine Project is doing a new Wine Improvement Drive where each month we focus on an area of articles that relate to a particular theme. In January we are are ringing in the New Year with New World wine, with a focus on the wines of the Northern Hemisphere-Canadian wine, American wine and Mexican wine. I am going by related projects to see if there is any interest in collaboration between this project and the wine project on the subject of British Columbia wine? Some suggestion on potential article creations include History of British Columbia wine, individual appellation articles such as Fraser Valley wine, Vancouver Island wine, etc (similar to the American Viticultural Areas where each wine region gets its own article), creation or expansion of notable wineries such Burrowing Owl Vineyards, Mission Hill Winery, Quails' Gate Estate Winery, Domaine de Chaberton, Venturi-Schulze Vineyards, etc. And, of course, of HUGE help would be the upload of free use photos of British Columbia wineries, wines and wine regions to Commons that could be used to better illustrate BC wine articles (The BC wine article itself could use a bit of work). If you're interested in helping, please drop a note at the Wine Project's talk page with the article you're interested in helping with. Thanks and have a great New Year! Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 22:40, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for including British Columbia wine into this improvement drive. If anybody will improve this article, I can provide them with sources and research. In support of the drive I have removed the unreferenced tag from Jackson-Triggs and the orphan tag Quails' Gate Winery (by creating its redirect 'Quails' Gate Estate Winery' and adding links to 'Ben Stewart' and 'British Columbia wine'). maclean (talk) 02:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

10 year anniversary meetup?

Hello my fellow BC Wikipedians. I think it would be great if we all could get together to celebrate Wikipedia's 10th annivesary on Jan. 15. I am trying to work out a meeting location in Vancouver; for all outside of the lower mainland, maybe we can set up a laptop for Skype drop-ins (or maybe its time for a vacation in balmy Vancouver!). We can discuss the meetup at this page at the official organizing area: Talk:Vancouver, B.C. I am told that swag such as t-shirts and buttons will be involved. Hope to see you there! The Interior (Talk) 02:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Official/legal BC Govt style: hyphens and dashes

This is the reply from the Office of the Legislative Counsel, which I just received (Feb 4/02), in relation to discussions arising from the restore-the-hyphen RM2 at Talk:Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District and also in relation to BC Parks names etc cf the Local Government Act and Protected Areas of British Columbia Act which you can find on BCLaws.ca. I have fixed the bulleting from the mail-text format in the original and bolded/italicized one key line, partly because it was an emphatic point made during the phone call; NB the use of forward slashes in some names is not mentioend here, I'll consult further on that point, and will also post this to WPBC:

Style comments from the Office of the Legislative Counsel of British Columbia, February 4/02

In British Columbia’s legislation – both Statutes and Regulations – what is on the web is considered “unofficial” and the text may be formatted differently due to limitations of XML or HTML, and in some cases, based on other guidelines. As an example of the latter, Hansard may choose to use an en-dash over a hyphen in transcriptions. This does not mean that this is the “official” form. The official consolidation of our legislation is in loose-leaf format (paper).

We are very structured in our styles and have a Style Committee to set standards for spelling, grammar and format when and if ambiguity arises or if something occurs that has not ever been addressed before. The office has adopted the Canadian Oxford Dictionary as its dictionary for spelling.

In terms of use of hyphens and en-dashes, the following guideline applies—

En-dashes are used in headings, for example:
- Part 4 – Evaluations
- Division 2 – Joint Committee
En-dashes are also used to indicate ranges of time, money or other amounts

Hyphens are used to link two words, for example:
- tax-exempt
- information-sharing agreements

Hyphens are also used in regional districts, for example;
- Skeena-Queen Charlotte
- Fraser-Fort George

(you will find the above examples as part of Regional Districts established under the Local Government Act)

There is mixed use in the B.C. statute Protected Areas of British Columbia Act—

En-dashes do appear in park names, but in what one might consider a standard use (spacing before and after the en-dash), for example:
- SMITH RIVER FALLS – FORT HALKETT PARK
- BISHOP BAY – MONKEY BEACH CONSERVANCY

There are hyphenated names in the Protected Areas of British Columbia Act as well:
- HARBOUR-DUDGEON LAKES PARK
- CASCADE-SUTSLEM CONSERVANCY

What distinguishes where one is used over the other is based somewhat on historical/regional use and possible political reasons (e.g. retaining the naming used by First Nations, etc.).

Our office would never use an en-dash in place of a hyphen.

Other facts that you may find interesting and useful are—

B.C. is considered one of the leaders in the Commonwealth for use of plain language

Our office has both a ‘company’ membership and many individual memberships to Clarity International – a group of lawyers and others who advocate using plain language in legalese

Our office’s Chief Legislative Counsel is the Vice-President of the Commonwealth Association of Legislative Counsel

Our office provides seminars to visiting delegations (e.g. our most recent presentations were to China and Russia) on our drafting approach (including style, language, grammar)

I have attached a PDF of a page that would appear in our consolidated loose-leaf regulations ( ‘official’ version of B.C.’s subordinate legislation). As Queen’s Printer holds copyright and Crown Publications the sales/distribution, I have added an ‘unofficial’ watermark.

If anyone would like a copy of the PDF mentioned in the last bit, email me and I will forward it to you; obviously can't post it here. I also have a copy of the provincial gazette, though that is downloadable also from the page with BCGNIS and BC Names (or rather, you email them and they send you a copy).Skookum1 (talk) 18:56, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nyan Wheti

The article Nyan Wheti has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A search for references found only mirrors, fails WP:N and WP:V

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 16:11, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Easily added a reference. I'm not sure why this was so difficult. If anyone has access to BC History (journal) and wants to read the Summer 2010 to expand on this article, that would be great. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 16:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)