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Numbers?

I noticed that the ClueBots leave numbers in their edit summaries, whereas HG's parallel is only a word that may actually define differently when compared to the bots... so, wouldn't it be more useful to use such a numbering system too? --Lofty abyss 14:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I have no idea what do you mean. Can you provide some examples? Petrb (talk) 23:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Automatically thanking people

It was bought to my attention on my talk page today that I've been thanking people when marking an edit as a 'good edit'. I can see where this might cause spam quite by accident. How can I turn it off? --I dream of horses ^{(talk) (contribs)} _{Remember to {{ping}} me after replying off my talk page} 22:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi I dream of horses, the "next edit" shortcut might be more suitable than the "good edit" shortcut if the sole purpose is to view the next edit in the list. This way, you keep the ability to thank users quickly. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:31, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

ToBeFree, I also want to welcome new users as well as remove the edit from the queue, both of which "good edit" does. On the other hand, I appreciate the "thank" feature (some people don't), but I don't want to do so via huggle. So let's keep the conversation on how to turn this feature off entirely. --I dream of horses ^{(talk) (contribs)} _{Remember to {{ping}} me after replying off my talk page} 02:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

To be clear, I want to know how people can do this on a case by case basis. I wouldn't want this turned on or off for everybody. --I dream of horses ^{(talk) (contribs)} _{Remember to {{ping}} me after replying off my talk page} 19:53, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks to help from my fellow IRCers', I found the option to disable automatically thanking people; someone put in a drop-down menu instead of settings, which would be a more logical location. I dream of horses ^{(talk) (contribs)} _{Remember to {{ping}} me after replying off my talk page} 20:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Under the "Page" menu, you can disable it with "Automatically thank users for every good edit". Why that's not in the settings menu, and is turned on by default, makes no sense to me. – Frood (talk) 20:06, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Frood, you were going to do a 'pull request', right? I'm not quite sure what that is, to be honest. I dream of horses ^{(talk) (contribs)} _{Remember to {{ping}} me after replying off my talk page} 20:08, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, to uncover the mystery to you - the reason is very simple, this functionality and this option is implemented via extension, it's not a part of Huggle core. Right now extension subsystem only allows creation of custom menus, but do not allow to alter the settings dialog in any way. That's why it's in menu. Petrb (talk) 23:48, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Huggle edit-warring with itself when reverting edits on user talk pages

See [1]. Dark-World25 was reverting edits made by the IP to their own user talk page, but in the process, Huggle self-reverted itself twice, it appears, and reintroduced the unwanted edits. Looks like Huggle is somehow overlapping its own edits. Home Lander (talk) 22:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248433 Petrb (talk) 08:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Not adding to watchlist when reverting

I've noticed that every time I revert an edit, Huggle has been adding the article to my watchlist, causing the list to be swamped. Is there any way to turn this off? ◢   Ganbaruby!   (remember to ping!) 13:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Preferences -> Warnings -> Preference for watchlist -> Do nothing. Petrb (talk) 21:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Global configuration

I have been getting this error when I have been trying to log into Huggle since 3 years. Login failed: Unable to parse the global configuration. See debug log for more details.: Query result doesn't contain any data. I have restored this application many times on different internet networks, but it didn't work. Can you help me solve this problem? Thanks. Uğurkent (talk) 20:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this error message is a bit cryptic, I admit it should be more easy to understand. It is what it says (huggle can't download the global config), but it doesn't say why - I suspect it's either network issue, or some anti-virus or firewall or sandboxing mechanism of some sort (or maybe invalid proxy settings?) preventing Huggle from downloading the global configuration page. Petrb (talk) 23:51, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

There are some problems especially in the proxy settings of the application. Then I canceled proxy settings. After a bit of effort, it looks normal for now. Thanks. Uğurkent (talk) 22:05, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Diff window colors

Hi! I'm visually impaired, and the bright white background in the central version diff window makes it difficult, sometimes even impossible for me to use Huggle. The rest of Huggle adapts to the OS theme, so that part is grand. Is there any way for me to influence the look of that rendered page? Thanks! ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | ~ 20:15, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@Twsx: Hi. one of the Huggle developers, Petrb, seems to be offline since last 23 days. But he will definitely respond something to the query once he sees it. Till then, two garden variety questions for you: what operating system do you use? And, how have you been? —usernamekiran (talk) 10:40, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

There's no rush, I'll just leave it standing here until that time comes. :) To answer the questions: Win10. And stable, but the problem is still persistent. Thanks for asking! ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | ~ 23:40, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for late response, I am really busy these days, I know this was brought to us at least once in the past, that Huggle doesn't adapt well to OS themes. The fact is, that most of web browsers don't (Huggle is de-facto a special web browser). In Huggle, this could be technically achieved by creating a new option that overrides the default color scheme of CSS style included with every diff page, which is current built into Huggle, here is the code: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/blob/master/src/huggle_core/Resources/html/Header.html as you can see some parts of this HTML page are already overrideable, so we could do the same with color - you can actually see couple of years old comments from me in that very source code, which are related to just this. However - I am not exactly sure which colors you have problems with? Can you provide a screenshot where it's visible which colors you want to change? Default is white background and black text, I don't see how is that hard to read. Petrb (talk) 23:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi! My "problem" is not so much one of contrast, but one of brightness. The impairment has made me extremely sensitive to bright areas on screens. Most of it can be mitigated by dark themes in the OS, as well as many programs also offering dark themes obviously. If my eyes are having a bad day, the diff is just simply too bright and blinding for me. Looking at your link; Doing some basic CSS wouldn't be a problem, but I couldn't find that file in my own installation so I'm assuming I'd have to build Huggle myself? I'd probably have to give that a shot, see if I can manage. Let me know if I'm assuming wrong here. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | ~ 16:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

This file is not directly editable, I was just discussing what could be theoretical fix of this, the change has to be implemented in code and can be shipped with next version of Huggle. Petrb (talk) 10:45, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I released a new version of Huggle that supports Dark Mode, it's in preferences. Petrb (talk) 23:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

That solves it, at least for me, 110%. Thank you so much! ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | ~ 01:18, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Cant log in Huggle

Hi, I recently removed 2factor sign in and changed my user name from all caps to setnence case. I used bot password to login Huggle and I was unable to log in Huggle today. Kindly advice what should I do or any further info needed. Thank you. Cassiopeia^(talk) 01:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@CASSIOPEIA: go to Special:BotPasswords, go to the account, and then reset the botpassword. If that still doesn't work, delete the botpassword and recreate it. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Xaosflux Hi, Thanks for the quick reply. I have reset the bot password but I received this message - "One or more projects (enwiki) do not allow you to login with edit permissions (reason: Login failed on enwiki: You don't have rollback permissions on this project.). Do you want to switch to read-only mode instead?" Which means I could only read but not edit/revert/send warning message. I do have rollback permission and I could not work it out how to let Huggle know. Can you help? Thanks in advance. Cassiopeia^(talk) 02:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@Cassiopeia: in your botpassword configuration, check to ensure you have allowed the botpassword to use your rollback access ("Rollback changes to pages" and the rights about editing a page. — xaosflux ^Talk 04:44, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Xaosflux got it and it works! Thank you for your assistance. Best and stay safe. Cassiopeia^(talk) 05:20, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

How to make Huggle only show very likely bad faith edits

Hi, the majority of difs I get are completely fine and have nothing bad. I only usually have to revert 1 in 15 difs. Is there a way I can make Huggle only show edits with very likely bad faith? — Yours, Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • ^Talk∕_Contribs 12:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, you can - open preferences -> Feed -> Enable global min. score and set it to like 500 or more. The amounts of edits you are going to see is going to be drastically lower though. Petrb (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Petrb, thanks! — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 12:50, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Crashes while in background on macOS

Crashes while in background on macOS, mentioned with error log at T252776. comrade waddie96 (talk) 14:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Questions from a new Huggle user

Hi there, apologies if these are stupid questions, but I've literally just set up Huggle now, and having read the manual there's a few things I'm still unsure about.

When I'm looking through vandalism, I often want to check the talk page of anonymous and new users to see if someone has left a welcome tag on their page. A couple of questions about this:

• The docs say "Huggle will check the user's talk page for existing warnings and issue one with an appropriate level" when doing a revert and warn, but does this perform a welcome-unconstructive if the user is new, or does it still issue a user warning?
• Is there a quick way to either open the user talk page in a new tab, or navigate back from the user talk page to the article page after having gone there using the "Display talk" button on the actions toolbar? So far, when testing this, I've found it difficult to navigate back in this way.

Additionally, with the automatic vandalism report for a user who already has a level 4 warning, is there an option to add detail, or does it go straight to AIV?

This seems like a great tool, and I'm excited to learn how to use it, but it does look complex - I really don't want to get it wrong and end up causing issues worse than the ones I fix! Thanks in advance for your help. | Naypta^✉ opened his mouth at 19:27, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh, one other thing which I've just remembered as well - when something is highlighted in green, amber or red in the queue, what does that mean? I can see there's documentation for all the icon colours, but I've not been able to find any documentation for the different highlights. Apologies if it's out there and I've missed it! | Naypta^✉ opened his mouth at 19:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I wonder it too. --DRIZZLE (talk) 15:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

These colors are for page spaces, they look a bit weird because they are calculated by turning string into hexadecimal number from space name (Talk, Wikipedia etc.) Petrb (talk) 17:51, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@Naypta: regarding your additional question, when I want to avoid the automatic vandalism report (which indeed gives no detail -- on the contrary, so to speak) at level 4, I go to menu item User, Report user, select all or their most recent edits, and explain the reason for reporting in the information input field. The list of relevant edit diffs is automatically appended at the end of the information line in the AIV report. After that, when the user is reported, I revert the edit. - DVdm (talk) 15:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Huggle contains so many fail-safes that it isn't so easy to break stuff using it, so you probably don't need to worry too much. When you open someone's talk page, it indeed isn't obvious how to go back as the regular pages aren't stored in same history as diffs (so [ ] will not do much), easiest way to go back is to click the "reload" button near article name in tool bar. Technically, when you render talk page of user (or any other page - not diff) Huggle will be still considering itself to be viewing diff. So when you click "open talk page" or anything like that, Huggle is still pointed to old diff you moved from - clicking reload button (or f5) will get you back. I am not so sure what you mean in your first question, Huggle is issuing warnings, not welcome templates when you request to warn user. Petrb (talk) 17:49, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Login errors

Hi Team, I haven't used Huggle for a couple of years, so installed the new version to get back into it. However I'm entirely unable to log in; running into either "Login failed on enwiki: Unable to parse the user configuration: document is NULL" or "Login failed (on enwiki): Cannot log in when using MediaWiki\Session\BotPasswordSessionProvider sessions."... I have uninstalled and reinstalled Huggle, logged out of Mediawiki, Tried a Legacy rather than bot login, deleted and re-requested the bot password, and am still running into errors. Windows 10 64-bit. Version 3.4.10. Thanks! --Jack Frost (talk) 03:50, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I fixed https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jack_Frost/huggle.yaml.js&diff=962724370&oldid=852919235 the error in your user config which possible was causing that document is NULL error. Try now please. Petrb (talk) 17:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Support on IRC

Im trying to ask for help, support with Huggle on #huggle, but noone answers, although plenty are logged in. Am I doing something wrong, or just gett unnoticed? If you read this, please check IRC #huggle. Dan Koehl (talk) 07:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, probably not problem on your end, we are all idle there usually busy doing stuff outside of IRC. Most of us use bouncers that keep us online even when we are in fact offline, so that we can catch up with conversations that happened in past. IRC is very different than it was 20 years ago, these days someone being online means nothing. Petrb (talk) 17:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Can't give level 2/3/4/ warnings after pressing Q

Hello,

Normally when I use Huggle, by pressing Q it reverts and warns a user, which is fine if there are no warnings before. However, recently there seems to be a glitch where level 2, 3, and 4 warnings can't be given even when pressing Q. I also don't see an option anymore to report a user that has a final warning. Not sure what the issue is. Thanks, Hummerrocket (talk) 00:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Also, I just want to add, is there any way to give a level 2/3/4 warning to a user through Huggle directly (even if they didn't have the lower levels first)? So for instance, if I want to give a 4im warning or a level 2 warning to a user right off the bat. Hummerrocket (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, check "system log" next time - it might not be glitch but a feature, Huggle doesn't send warnings to people who were warned too recently (so that when you directly press Q on some 5 edits someone made in past, it will send then 1 warning only) - this is so that "vandals" actually have enough time to read the warning, instead of getting 4 warnings templates at once. If you want to send higher warning, there is option for this in user menu, I don't remember what is it called, something with warning level. Petrb (talk) 18:00, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

loosing login status

I noticed today that when I drop out of huggle (e.g., to provide this feedback), when the browser window comes up I am logged out and need to log in. That happens every time I drop out, even if I concurrently have a logged-in session underway using the same browser. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 16:45, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

The above was an unrecognized config problem. For some reason, the Huggle dropout session is using a browser I don't recognize. I'll try to figure out how to remove that browser. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 16:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Warning templates, & diff comparing

Hi folks. Two questions:

1. Is there a way to amend which warning templates are used?

2. Is there a way to compare two non-consecutive diffs, or does this need you to come back on-wiki?

If either of the above aren't possible, please treat as feature requests! :) Thanks, Darren-M talk 12:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Good faith rollbacks

Hi, when pressing Y and specifying the reason for the rollback, in the summary it appears "Reverted edits by reason (talk): reason". I mean, where the user I reverted should appear, the reason appears.--SRuizR 01:50, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's an issue of the eswiki local configuration. I'll ask for it to be fixed.--SRuizR 21:00, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

19 July 2020

Are there problems today with Huggle? four or five times I've logged in during the day and no edits coming up for review. I tried changing feeds to each of the three options, but no change. I'm using Version: 3.4.10 build: 3880 3.4.10 on a fairly new MS Surface Pro and not too technical JW 1961 Talk 20:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Joseywales1961, just checked, I'm not having any issues on the same build. Have you made sure to check your queue preset? Ed6767 talk! 21:00, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Ed6767 it was somehow set to "my edits" and I reset it to default and all ok now (I'm blaming one of my dogs that whacked my keyboard earlier) sorry for troubling you JW 1961 Talk 21:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Joseywales1961, no worries :) Ed6767 talk! 21:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Huggle anti-vandal network and RedWarn

Starting with the next version of RedWarn (RedWarn 15), users of the RedWarn tool will be able to access the same network as Huggle users on the English Wikipedia. As RedWarn is a Javascript tool that can be used by any autoconfirmed user (like Twinkle), rather than an application that on enwiki requires rollback (like Huggle), you may see an influx in activity in the HAN panel as many more users begin to access the HAN. You are very welcome to engage in discussions at any time. The protocol between RedWarn and Huggle is fully compatible. If you have any queries about this change, please ask me on my talk page, or at WT:RedWarn. Many thanks, Ed6767 talk! 02:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ed6767: I'm quite seriously worried about this. Having seen yesterday people are already copying RedWarn and removing its autoconfirmed check, not to mention that autoconfirmed status is a very low bar for anyone having access, this has the potential to completely get rid of the point of the HAN. I wonder what protections you are putting in place to prevent users from having those issues; I also wonder how you intend on making it clear to users that their IP will be exposed to tm-irc. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 09:06, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Naypta, thanks for raising your concerns. RedWarn will connect users via a proxy hosted on Wikimedia toolforge as JS doesn't directly support IRC, along with the risks of exposing user data to an external servers. If it autoconfirmed is too low, I can restrict access to extended confirmed users, and even enforce this on the server side too so that it's much harder to bypass. On another note, can you link me to the modified/bypassed RedWarn edits? Ed6767 talk! 10:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, glad to hear it, I wasn't even aware of RedWarn existence until now, but in the end, I am not that active on Wikipedia as I used to be. I wouldn't be too worried about tm-irc and IP privacy, the network itself is masking IP's (unlike freenode) so nobody except irc operators can see them. And at this moment I am the only irc operator there. The original intent of HAN was to connect people who are doing counter-vandalism, no matter of the tool, so I am completely OK with this. The description is here: WP:Huggle/HAN Petrb (talk) 08:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

About sound notifications

Hi, in options I saw an option that reproduced a sound when an edit in the feed had a score higher than some number. I enabled the option but there is no sound. ¿Is there a problem?--SRuizR 06:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, that sounds like a bug, it should work! I will test it, the sound that is supposed to play is this one https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/blob/master/src/huggle_res/sounds/not1.wav Petrb (talk) 08:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Not show certain namespaces

Hi all, is there a way to configure Huggle to now show certain namespaces in the queue? I'm mostly thinking of Draft: and Wikipedia talk: ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 03:42, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, yes, in preferences, queue filter there is option to create a new queue filter and in that you can define which namespaces will be shown and which not. Petrb (talk) 08:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

UAA documentation

Hello, ¿is there any documentation to correctly implement UAA reports?--SRuizR 00:40, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Web-based version of Huggle

@Petrb: Do you think that a web-based version of Huggle that does not require the installation of separate software is possible? The only real roadblock with this idea that I can see is how to implement IRC with a web-based version. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 00:13, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, it's on the road-map but right now it's blocked by some limitations in the Qt WASM, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200993 Petrb (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Petrb: What if instead of porting Huggle 3 to a website, you were to Huggle a browser extension? SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 22:04, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Installing Huggle

Is it possible to install Huggle on Linux distributions other then Ubuntu and distributions that support Snap? SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 03:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007, yes, on Debian based distros, although it's easy enough to get the deb and convert it to an rpm file: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Huggle/Installation/en#Debian Ed6767 talk! 15:30, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Ed6767 I tried both methods, buy they didn't work. For reference, I am using Chrome OS. Here is the result of the command:

Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.Bi5OkU4fUx/gpg.1.sh --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys F3D77590 gpg: key BA852847F3D77590: public key "Launchpad PPA for huggle-devs" imported gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: imported: 1 /usr/bin/apt-key: 402: /usr/bin/apt-key: cannot create /etc/apt/trusted.gpg: Permission denied cat: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.Bi5OkU4fUx/gpgoutput.log: No such file or directory SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 17:15, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Scratch that. I finally figured out how to get Huggle installed. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 19:05, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007, btw, ChromeOS's Linux support is through Ubuntu, so you could've just used snap after using sudo apt-get install snap, then snap install huggle Ed6767 talk! 19:32, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Ed6767 I keep getting a error when trying to install Huggle through Snap, saying that the operation was not permitted. Also, the version I installed is not the latest version and I have to install it through Snap to get the latest version. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 19:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007, when you get "not permitted" errors on Linux, check the command and make sure it isn't bad (snap here is fine), then add sudo to give it elevated permissions (similar to how you have to click through user account control in windows) - you command should look like sudo snap install huggle Ed6767 talk! 19:42, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

I think it is something to do with the mask, because I am getting a "Operation not permitted" error even with sudo permission. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 19:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007, here's a guide you might want to try: https://blockforums.org/topic/343-how-to-install-snap-and-denarius-on-any-chromebook-chromeos/ Ed6767 talk! 19:54, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Got it. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 20:11, 21 July 2020 (UTC) @Ed6767::Huggle is now refusing to launch because it can not find the plugin "wayland-egl". SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 20:49, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007, you can open a phabricator request at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/huggle/ I think to get in touch with the developers, but they also watch here too. Ed6767 talk! 01:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ed6767: For some reason, the only version of Huggle that my Chromebook will run is the snapless, outdated version. Can you maybe let the developers know to update the version of Huggle that can run without snap? SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 01:12, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Opened task on Phabricator. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 04:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, easiest way to install Huggle on any Linux distro is to compile it. Most of linux distros are unlike Windows and MacOS well equiped with developement tools, there is a guide right here: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/wiki/Building-on-Linux you need gcc, g++, cmake and Qt. Petrb (talk) 08:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Can somebody email me more comprehensive instructions on how to compile Huggle on Linux? SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 15:46, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007, WP:NOTFORUM and all that, but I run GalliumOS on my Chromebook which allows me to access a full load of things - it's a bit technical to set up but they have great docs, and once you're done it's totally worth it (see https://galliumos.org/). Huggle works great for me thanks to it. Ed6767 talk! 01:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ed6767: Unfortunately, my Chromebook is a Samsung Chromebook 3, which the documentation recommends not installing GalliumOS on. This is why I want a web-based version of Huggle. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 22:57, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

I will just wait until I upgrade to a proper computer. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 03:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@SuperGoose007: If you're still interested, Crouton (link) is also an option to get a working Linux environment, although I don't know what the current state of the project is and whether Huggle would compile correctly (haven't used Chrome OS for a while). On Debian(-based) systems, compilation should work by installing the dependencies (git, cmake, gcc, qt5-default, qtmultimedia-dev, qtwebengine5-dev IIRC), opening a terminal and typing

git clone https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx.git && cd huggle3-qt-lx && git submodule init && git submodule update && git checkout tags/3.4.10

and then following the steps outlined in the huggle compilation instructions on github, i.e.:

 ./configure --extension --web-engine
cd release
make
sudo make install
sudo ldconfig

Blablubbs (talk) 20:39, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Blablubbs: I have all the dependcies expect for IIRC. It is not showing up in APT search, so did you mean something else? SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 01:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

If you have all of them, then what's the output of configure run? Petrb (talk) 07:52, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@SuperGoose007: IIRC is an abbreviation for "if I recall correctly" and not another dependency – I'm really sorry if I sent you on a wild-goose chase (no pun intended). Best, Blablubbs (talk) 14:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@Pertb: @Blablubbs: Huggle is refusing to compile because cmake can't find a "CMAKE_CXX_cOMPILER". Any solutions to this? (I am a total noob at Linux.) SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 23:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@SuperGoose007: Maybe some missing build tools? You could try

sudo apt update && sudo apt install build-essentials

and then run the compiler again. — Blablubbs ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:00, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I was able to get Huggle successfully installed! SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 02:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@SuperGoose007 Congrats! @Petrb Should I add the manual compilation instructions to the Huggle docs? Might be useful for someone else in the future (especially because the currently documented non-snap Debian install method is deprecated). — Blablubbs ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:38, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Something's going on with the filters

The queue filters do not seem to work for me. Is this just problem with my installation of Huggle, or is anyone else experiencing difficulties with their queue? SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 01:25, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

I discovered how the filters work, disregard this. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 03:28, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Does Huggle requires rollback permissions?

Do I need to request rollback permissions to use Huggle? but I thin no because even i don't have rollback permissions I can still use twinkle and redwarn, but does this requires permission, as ive never used this before — Preceding unsigned comment added by User3749 (talk • contribs)

User3749, on enwiki, yes, as Huggle is a very powerful tool with quite a complex interface that can be abused easily by inexperienced users. You can request rollback at WP:RFP/R Ed6767 talk! 10:37, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, it's necessary if you want to use it for editing. In read-only mode it can be used even without rollback permissions. Petrb (talk) 08:32, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ed6767 and Petrb: I am worried about if someone is going to decline my rollback permission request, but what would mean if i am ready for a rollback request? User3749 (talk) 15:26, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

User3749, if you already have experience with other rollback-like tools such as Twinkle and RedWarn, you should be okay. If you don't get them, it's not the end of the world - take the feedback they give into account and reapply in a month or so - my first rollback request was denied. Ed6767 talk! 15:29, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ed6767:, i am probably going to start one in this week. User3749 (talk) 15:31, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Aside that, i am probably going to also change the redwarn preferences to make the rollback actual rollback that requires permission

which one is better redwarn or Twikle, im trying to install Twinkle, not yet done. Which is better for a new person. Rahulsoman (talk) 23:20, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Unable to log in in Huggle 2.1.26

Rahulsoman (talk) 22:12, 20 August 2020 (UTC) Hi sir, I am Unable to log in in Huggle 2.1.26. Kindly guide me. I used wiki user name and passoword. Is there any special sign up procedure. I am using 64 bit windows 10.

Hi Rahulsoman, on the English Wikipedia you have to be a rollbacker to use Huggle. You will need to gain some anti-vandalism experience with other tools before it's likely you'll be granted this permission. Ed talk! 22:20, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ed6767 thanks for the reply. Found you are one of the person who got granted the permissions very quickly. Is there any tips to learn. Thanks for reply. Rahulsoman (talk) 22:53, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Rahulsoman, first steps are actually beginning to revert vandalism with a tool like Twinkle or RedWarn (a tool I'm developing). You can use Special:RecentChanges and the filters there to help spot vandalism. Please be careful with these tools, as they are very powerful. Ed talk! 23:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ed6767 I will be trying to start using those tools, if they are supportive within my limited knowledge. HOPE I CAN IT FREE OF COST, Once again thanks for reply Rahulsoman (talk) 23:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Rahulsoman, this is Wikipedia - everything is free here :) Have fun, and feel free to ask if you need any help. Ed talk! 23:13, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ed6767 Thanks now I am able to asses something better. Rahulsoman (talk) 11:32, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Huggle for mobile devices

Hello! Would a version of Huggle for Android be possible? (That way, we can finally port Huggle to Chromebooks!) Goose^(Talk!) 18:56, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007, that'd require a radical redesign of Huggle's entire UI in order to make it work on mobile, along with many other issues that would mean that pretty much an entirely new version would be required to get it working Ed talk! 21:01, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

SuperGoose007 SWViewer is a mobile-friendly and somewhat huggle-like option that might be worth checking out. Best, — Blablubbs ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:31, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, actually, there is a mobile version Huggle project for Android / iOS, but it's under (extremely slow) development. It's actually not very hard to make the UI for it, but I don't think there is a big potential, nor big user base for it. Computer is incomparably more powerful for tools like Huggle (interface wise). Petrb (talk) 20:15, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Whitelist starting at zero at start of every huggle session

Every time I start huggle nowadays, the whitelist starts at zero; thankfully, it increases over time to include experienced editors and bots who are editing at the same time as me. However, this is less than ideal; sometimes, I check the "see mostly good edits option," then I have to keep clearing the list of now-whitelisted people. Is this by design for some reason, is this a newly-discovered bug, or is phabricator already "on it"? --I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me after replying off my talk page. Thank you. 02:57, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this is a bug, I think something has changed on wikimedia labs that cause this, it seems that force HTTPS for everything and that broke it. Petrb (talk) 20:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

This fixes it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Huggle/Config.yaml&diff=20515700&oldid=19206914 indeed wmflabs were just returning HTTP 301 redirect on non-ssl URL, shame on whoever did that without ensuring backwards compatibility! Petrb (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Are reverts made with Huggle automated?

While browsing through dinosaur pages, I noticed that an edit made by an IP, which added an extra entry to the Disambiguation template at the top of the page, was reverted in seconds by @Spudlace: using Huggle. I know the IP did not vandalize the page; the second entry's title is only one letter off from the page's title, and people could genuinely get confused. I had to manually revert it. I also noticed this discussion on the Talk page of another IP who tried to contest a revert made by @Materialscientist: using Huggle, made within a minute of their constructive edit. Seeing as they didn't reply, with another IP instating the change that would've been made, I suspect that the reverts were automated. As someone who doesn't know how Huggle works, I would like to know: were reverts like those automated, done without the intervention of humans that would review such changes before deciding to revert them? 49.144.197.165 (talk) 12:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

They're semi-automated. Huggle shows reviewers edits almost in real-time, and gives them a single-click button to revert them and warn the user. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

I see. But I feel that Huggle users sometimes revert flagged edits blindly (no offense), because sometimes constructive edits get reverted. 49.144.197.165 (talk) 00:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this is a long-term well known "problem" with Huggle, it's not a bug, Huggle is not automatically reverting anything, it's a mistake done by users of it. Given the performance of Huggle, it's possible to review about 100 edits per minute when you use it, many people stop concentrating well enough and sometimes, judging fast, confuse a valid edit with vandalism and revert it. There are many fail-safes that are supposed to prevent this, but not all of them are enabled by default: whitelisted, trusted, edits to talk page, self edits, bot edits, etc. will raise a warning when user attempt to revert them, in addition to that, all edits are scored by Huggle and also ORES, so high quality edits are even filtered out. There are some other optional settings, like time-lock that allows you to only perform certain amount of reverts within minute, but most people don't use these, having enough self-confidence, so yeah... these mistakes do happen. If you have any suggestion how to make Huggle harder to make mistakes with, we are listening, but it's very likely your idea would already by implemented. Petrb (talk) 20:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I guess Huggle should add a mandatory "review changes" window that would appear before an editor could revert a change. Maybe similar to the edit summary window that appears before you publish an edit on mobile Wikipedia. 49.144.197.165 (talk) 02:31, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

The best options for ip editors to help reviewers is to use edit summaries explaining their edits or to register an account so we can get to know you better. It is your choice to edit as an ip, but if you are making changes that could reasonably be mistaken for vandalism, it is common sense to explain your edits using an edit summary. Edit summaries are one factor reviewers will use to judge whether an editor is making changes in good faith. Spudlace (talk) 04:01, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Project not available in Huggle

Hi, i want to work on Santali Wikipedia project(sat.wikipedia.org) with huggle is it possible?? I am not seeing any option for it. Rocky 734 (talk) 18:36, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Rocky 734: yes, it's possible! You just need to create a request on phabricator, or I can do that for you... but first of all, is local community of Santali Wikipedia aware of this? Are they OK with bringing Huggle to that wiki? Petrb (talk) 20:32, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Petrb:, I'm Sorry for very late response. Thank you very much for your support, i just posted above in my own will. I will first ask and tell them about it and after that if they are happy i will contact you. I think more preparation is needed for it to bring it in Santali Wikipedia. Happy Diwali in advance :-)Rocky 734 (talk) 04:20, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

To rollback or not to rollback

I've noticed that for some weird reason Huggle used rollback when the option called use software rollback is not ticked, while just using manual reversion when ticked. This seems like the opposite of how it should work to me. Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 16:23, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello not really, I think this option should be rephrased, in fact this is decision whether Huggle should use Rollback API of MW (in case it's unchecked), or "software emulated rollback" (when checked) which is a regular edit that supplements the API call with multiple other API calls (retrieve the history, find the latest modification by another user, retrieve content of that revision, then replace the current page with that content using same edit summary as with actual rollback). From user perspective the end result looks exactly the same, it's just performing worse. The only gain with software emulated rollback is that it works even when you don't have rollback permissions (not all wikis requires rollback to use Huggle, like enwiki does). Petrb (talk) 12:49, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Huggle keeps freezing

I've already tried firing up HG twice today and it appears to freeze within seconds of logging in. This wasn't a problem yesterday; any ideas why? lavender|^{(formerly HMSSolent)}|lambast 02:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, any more information you can provide? Version of Huggle, your OS, how does it look when it "freezes"? Petrb (talk) 12:50, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

UI problem (maybe MSWin update induced)

I have a laptop with Huggle a second display by HDMI. Lately, perhaps after a MSWin update, pop-up menus for e.g., choices of revert warnings appear on the main laptop display instead of alongside the tab popping them up in the Huggle window on the HDMI display. Running MSWin 10.0.18363. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 14:56, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 7 November 2020

Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback redirects to Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback, preventing placement of an edit request on talk without breaking the redirect (Template talk redirects here too)

{{edit template-protected|Template:Huggle/warn-advert-1|Template:Huggle/warn-1|demo=yes|answered=yes}} Both of these templates have weird punctuation spacing when used with a specific edit. I've confirmed both changes behave as expected.

(Note: this isn't a talk page, please remove the category I manually added in the line below when this is resolved.)

For Template:Huggle/warn-advert-1: change

{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{1|}}}|&nbsp;—specifically <span class="plainlinks">[{{{2}}} this edit]</span> to [[:{{{1}}}]]—}} has been

to

{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{1|}}}|—specifically <span class="plainlinks">[{{{2}}} this edit]</span> to [[:{{{1}}}]]—|&nbsp;}}has been

For Template:Huggle/warn-1: change

{{SAFESUBST:<noinclude />#if:{{{1|}}}|&nbsp;—specifically <span class="plainlinks">[{{{2}}} this edit]</span> to [[:{{{1}}}]]—|&nbsp;}}because

to

{{SAFESUBST:<noinclude />#if:{{{1|}}}|—specifically <span class="plainlinks">[{{{2}}} this edit]</span> to [[:{{{1}}}]]—|&nbsp;}}because

Perryprog (talk) 16:28, 7 November 2020 (UTC) (Edited to add category at 13:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC))

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Uw-block and unregistered users

At User talk:220.253.71.58, the first warning message includes a disclaimer that explains to the user that it may not be directed at them personally because of a dynamic IP address. The {{Uw-block}} template used for the block doesn't make this distinction, though. Should it be reworded to make a similar distinction when used on an IP talk page? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:10, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect password on MacOS

I keep getting the wrong password despite using botpassword. 4thfile4thrank (talk) 17:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@4thfile4thrank: first, make sure you are using the right botpassword username (it is different). If that doesn't work, reset and regenerate the botpassword and try again. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@xaosflux If this the right name? 4thfile4thrank@Huggle

I can't check for you, it is whatever you see at Special:BotPasswords. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:43, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Bug with XmlIRCs

Hello I'm a contributor on fr wp and I use Huggle often. Since this morning, Huggle dosen't work with XmlIRCs. I had to change provider for "wiki" to make it work. 3(MG)² (talk) 18:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Same problem for me on en wiki, cant get a feed at all JW 1961 Talk 19:42, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@Joseywales1961 and 3(MG)²:, the log says the XMLRCS feed is timing out. I brought it up on #huggle ^connect about an hour ago, but no reply yet. As a temporary workaround you can choose IRC as the provider (System > Change Provider > IRC). I recall that being preferring over the Wiki provider, but I could be wrong. Perryprog (talk) 20:02, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I had to uninstall and re-install huggle first seems ok now on IRC or wiki JW 1961 Talk 20:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Huggle doesn't catch as much vandalism as Swviewer

Huggle doesn't catch as much vandalism as Swviewer. Is there a way to set an ORES score filter to catch more vandalism in the queue? Steve M (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Steve M, you can set the threshold by navigating to Options->Feed->Enable Global Min Score and tweaking the number there. Blablubbs|talk 23:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Blablubbs, thanks, it is working very well indeed! Steve M (talk) 04:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

What is the "preferred provider" of recent changes? What are the pros/cons?

What is the "preferred provider" of recent changes? What are the pros/cons? Steve M (talk) 21:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Steve M, this probably isn't a perfect explanation, but the recent change provider is just what Huggle connects to to receive edits (basically the recent changes page with auto-update on). XmlRcs is the default—it's pretty much the most "modern" provider, and uses EventStreams. IRC (I think the server Huggle uses is irc.wikimedia.org) is the next one—I've only used it for when the XmlRcs server occasionally goes down, and it's basically just an IRC channel that would be sending out the recent changes as a message (I don't know much about the technology behind it—there might be some MediaWiki integration as well?). It looks like the wiki provider just manually polls the RecentChanges API, so I imagine that's a last resort for if the IRC and XmlRcs providers are both not working.

That's about the best I know—as far as I'm aware, you should prefer them in the order I just listed. Regarding actual pros and cons I'll leave up to someone more qualified to answer (which I am not—so take this with a grain of salt until someone corrects me).

Perryprog (talk) 22:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes pretty much that - except Huggle doesn't get whole edits from it, it gets only very basic information about edits as they happen in real time, with revision ID, page name, user name etc. from it, rest of the edit data including diff is always downloaded via MW API, so basically "feed provider" is a provider of information about recent changes on wiki. The reason why there are multiple of them is both stability and historical. IRC feed is the original one, XmlRcs is the newer one, but IRC being older and much more stable is still supported as fallback in case XmlRcs breaks. In case both IRC and XmlRcs breaks (or are blocked by firewall, they use custom ports, 6667 for IRC and 8822 for XmlRcs) the last-resort fallback is the MW API (Wiki), which is slowest and least efficient as it repeatedly refresh the recent changes page (API version) and backfill the queue of "incoming" edits from it. So TL;DR:

• XmlRcs - modern, very fast and very efficient (very low bandwidth)
• IRC - much older, still very fast (low bandwidth)
• Wiki - fallback to MW API, slow and beefy (high bandwidth)

Petrb (talk) 10:46, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Question: why does Huggle need permissions?

On a Windows install, I get prompted by UAC to run the Huggle exe. Why does the program require admin permissions? Does it install stuff somewhere? If so, can it be configured to install on a per-user basis so that the need for system permissions is removed? Thanks in advance. (note: I am asking about system permissions, and not mediawiki perms) ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 12:02, 30 November 2020 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

@Sportzpikachu: If you are using the installation exe, it needs the permissions to be able to write in to C:\Program Files\Huggle (add x86 as relevant), if you change that install directory, still doesn't really matter. Running Huggle after installation doesn't prompt for permissions on my machine at least. - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 23:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Rich Smith: Thanks for the reply! Do you know if there is any way to change the default installation directory? I'd like to install Huggle on a per-user basis, but the installer prompts me for permissions the moment I open it. Any ideas? ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 23:53, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Sportzpikachu: Interesting thought... pinging @Petrb:, maybe a Windows package that only prompts for admin rights if it needs the VS redists or is installing to a location that needs them? or even a ZIP file containing the 'installed' files if they are portable enough - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 00:00, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@Rich Smith and Petrb: Any updates on this "portable" version of HG? Thanks! Also, where is the code for the installer? I can't seem to find it on the HG repo... Perhaps I can just recompile the installer with another installation target? ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 23:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh, just logged into IRC and saw the nightly build, thanks! It's here if anyone else wants it. ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 23:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

TL;DR; - Huggle needs admin permissions only when installing, because it needs VC redist package to install for it to work. Huggle doesn't need admin rights to run. Petrb (talk) 10:48, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

ERROR: Scoring failed for edit : Timed out

Any idea way do I keep getting this? A lot of those edits are vandalism but miss the feed. Steve M (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

What does the log say when you click on it? And which provider are you using? --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 02:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, when scoring times out, edit is still processed and gets into the feed, just not scored via ORES Petrb (talk) 22:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Linux Mint 20

• How do I install Huggle on Linux Mint 20? --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 21:20, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, most easily from source code https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/wiki/Building-on-Linux Petrb (talk) 22:47, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

つがる, make sure that you have all the required dependencies installed: IIRC you need git, gcc, cmake, qt5-default, qtmultimedia5-dev and qtwebengine5-dev. Feel free to ping me if you run into issues. Blablubbs|talk 13:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Huh, this sounds real complex, I'm not really that smart with this stuff, and the only way to get Huggle to work is to use it in VirtualBox, but it's tedious to do so, there is no Huggle at Linux Mint's software catalogue. --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 00:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@つがる this has compilation instructions. The instructions for Linux Mint should be identical to Debian. If you decide to try this route, feel free to ping me if you need help. Blablubbs|talk 15:31, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Will it do any bad installing snap? --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 22:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

That should work too, I forgot about that option; looks like the build there is up to date. Blablubbs|talk 19:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Issue: queue not showing after closing

Hi, I have huggle installed but the queue and the HAN is not showing. After I closed the HAN window it cannot be be opened again, and same with the queue. Is this a bug because even after trying to restart Huggle it is still not showing. Do you know how to fix this and what happened? Thanks, User3749 (talk) 10:37, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Mac Shortcut

Hi, anyone knows the standard Keyboard Shortcut(s) on a MAC for reverting the diff via "Removal of content - unexplained deletion" ? Or if there are none how can I add one for this action!? Thanks in advance, CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:09, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, I don't believe there is one by default. I personally bound it to ⇧ Shift+X (uneXplained; using d didn't work for some reason). The one oddity is you have to type in the shortcut into the settings as the actual text Shift+X. See also phab:T166717#6733809 or my other shortcuts. Perryprog (talk) 12:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Perryprog, thanks a lot but in the program I am not able to modify any shortcut within the Preferences, I only have the list of those shortcuts - I tried to insert it into my yaml.js but it says "there is an error in the file" (??? no idea what I am doing wrong...) CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Perryprog, I figured it out - very strange, you insert the shortcuts into the js file, Huggle load, the shortcuts are working but in the preferences they are not listed... anyway, thanks a lot! CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:35, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Word request: Nonce

The word "nonce" is an old British insult that is frequently used in vandalism. I propose it be added to the word list and given a similar score to "stupid". Steve M (talk) 18:56, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I agree that it should be added, but "nonce" means "paedophile", is oversightable and very unlikely to see any legitimate use, so I'd increase the score significantly. Blablubbs|talk 19:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Makes sense. Steve M (talk) 19:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

ToBeFree, is it a good idea to add the word or will a RFC be needed? Steve M (talk) 16:06, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping – adding it to "score-words" at WP:HG/C with a score of 100 is probably uncontroversial. Make sure to restart Huggle after the change and run it for at least an hour of active antivandalism afterwards to see if the change causes unintended side-effects. Ideally, you could sandbox the configuration before deploying it, but that's probably overkill in this case. Just make sure you have time to debug the change immediately after making it. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@ToBeFree (mobile) or @ToBeFree, I can't add it as the page is admin-protected, could you please add it? Steve M (talk) 22:55, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Steve M, oh, sorry. I hadn't noticed the change; it was done after Abelmoschus Esculentus resigned and I became an admin so the main editors weren't affected by the protection anymore. I'll implement this. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Steve M I agree. See the revision history of Thomas Tuchel, there was one recent vandalism using the word "nonce". User3749 (talk) 10:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Link to Huggle Legacy 404s

This message appears when I try to access the Huggle (2.1.26) for Windows link under the Legacy Version section:

EpicPupper 21:44, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Filter by editor

Is it possible to filter edits based on editors? For example, a button where the queue will only show edits by IP users or registered ones. If not, that would be extremely useful. Wretchskull (talk) 09:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you would want to set up a custom queue. Open System>Options, and go to the "Queue filter" tab. Click on one of the queues on the left, and click the "Insert" button. You'll see a new queue, named "User defined queue #5" (or some other number). Select that queue, and set "IP users" to "Require (must be)" if you want IP users, or "Exclude (must not be)" if you want registered users. Phuzion (talk) 00:39, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Not able to add reports to UAA

Is it just for me, or is there a problem with the tool that adds reports to UAA? I can’t get it to work and have to add reports manually via my browser. Pahunkat (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

How to provide revert reason when using Huggle?

I saw options to add shortcuts such as "main-revert-and-warn-2" or "main-revert-0", which might be the way for users to use shortcut to deliver custom warnings. But can someone explain to me how to it works? For example, if I want to revert because of WP:ADVERTISING, is it main-revert-0? or main-revert-1? Thank you! SunDawn (talk) 16:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Found the answer, thank you! SunDawn (talk) 06:21, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Revert issues

Hello, so today I encountered a peculiar situation. I noticed this vandalism and immediately do a instant revert-warn. But instead of reverting it, I am reverting this one resulting in this bad revert.

Usually Huggle will refuse to revert if another user has reverted, and I use a filter to only see bad edits. I use instant revert with no delays so revert will immediately be sent out. Could someone enlighten me on this?SunDawn (talk) 06:27, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

New word

Can the word "pp" be added to the word list? It has almost no good uses and is often used in vandalism. aeschyIus (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Ignore list

Hello. 1) How do I edit the ignore list? I don't really want to patrol drafts, for example. 2) Even though ^.*/sandbox.*$ is on my ignore list, I still had a sandbox pop up. Example. Any idea why? Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Watchlist

Is there a way to keep Huggle out of my watchlist? aeschylus (talk) 02:29, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

How to address Huggle problems

Is there a process for reviewing an editor's use of Huggle? I noticed a series of templates on a new editor's talk page. He added some (unnecessary and anti-MOS, but not vandalistic) character formatting to an article, and got reverted with a warning about "unconstructive" edits. While he's being reverted, he made the same type of formatting change to an article, and got reverted with an sterner warning about unconstructive edit. These warnings appeared about three minutes apart. Three hours later, the newbie added a link to a recipe to the end of an article about that food, and ended up with {{uw-advert3}}, which says he'll be blocked if he continues spamming (except, you know, if wasn't spam and even if you think it was, it certainly wasn't a case of someone continuing to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material, since the previous warnings were merely for unwanted formatting.

This seemed weird. I see two separate problems here:

The first is that Huggle probably shouldn't jump to the next level of warning when the previous ones were an unrelated subject.

The second is, after looking at his contribs and comments, I have started to wonder whether the Huggle user has the skills needed for high-speed patrolling. Is there a process (outside of the Wikipedia:Dramaboard, I mean) for getting an editor's use of Huggle fairly evaluated and, if necessary, access removed?

(Please ping me.)

WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:57, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

@WhatamIdoing, the talk page of aforementioned user is the best option. If they refuse to discuss, then there is no other choice. ANI is the only real idea after discussing it with the user. It will give a fair view with many users/admins. aeschylus (talk) 02:33, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@Aeschylus, thanks for the reply and the ping. Looking at the user's talk page, I don't think that I'd make any headway where others haven't, and ANI doesn't necessarily result in a fair evaluation. It seems better suited to snap judgements. Our old Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct process might have been better. I might need to leave this to others. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to add template Uw-medrs

Hello. I wanted to propose that we add template {{uw-medrs}} to Huggle. This template is a single-level user warning template somewhat analogous to the purpose of {{uw-unreliable}}, except it's targeted to users adding sources to pages on medical-related topics or content, which are measured against the stricter quality standard of WP:MEDRS. I'm not very familiar with Huggle requirements, so if there are any technical issues with the template itself wrt compatibility, please raise a discussion at Template talk:Uw-medrs about that.

This recently became an issue when Huggle user Optakeover added a {{Huggle/warn-1}} in good faith at User talk:MordvinEvgen, but this was not the right template for this case, as the problem was failure to meet WP:MEDRS, not vandalism. Had {{uw-medrs}} been available from Huggle, I think he might have placed that template instead of a warn-1. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:17, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@Mathglot: By the way, the default failure to cite a reliable source warning in Huggle ({{uw-unsourced1}}) is a level warning, which gives a warning level to the warned users. As such although WP:RS is not a policy but a guideline, by your definition of the problem a person warned for a guideline-level rule (no reliable source) could be 1) flagged for vandalism level number and 2) could increase likelihood of escalation to AIV reporting and 3) controversial since the relevant rule is not a policy. Optakeover^(U)(T)(C) 11:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure that increasing the complexity and variety of warnings is a net improvement. People who want to use other templates can edit the old-fashioned manual way, too. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:45, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

agree w/ above editor--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:51, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Ozzie10aaaa, Mathglot, and WhatamIdoing, I agree with all of you. I also believe, however, that if we are able to make custom warnings and custom revert reasons (like RedWarn is doing now) this would be a decent one to make. aeschylus (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Revert edit using custom reason

Hi, can there be a colon at the end of the default template if a custom reason like there is for every reason? aeschylus (talk) 14:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Blocked user icon

A reported user gets an icon with a black circle on a red background in the interface. When the user gets blocked, the icon does not change and remains the same. IIRC in the old Huggle 2, the icon changed to a red circe on a black background for a blocked user. Having this feaure would save some time and trouble keeping an eye on reported users, and more open tabs could be closed. Could this be done? TIA. - DVdm (talk) 23:06, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

T286151 created, thanks for bug report Petrb (talk) 11:53, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb: Thanks. I didn't know it was a bug. Thought it was a feature . - DVdm (talk) 10:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

HG sometimes failing to warn vandals

I've found tonight that, after reverting vandalism, on occasion, Huggle isn't warning the users - I've had to go through my contribs and use TW to warn them, which is a tad cumbersome as I quite like that HG does that for you. Thanks, Patient Zero^talk 22:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Indeed it doesn't, it's to prevent new users being overwhelmed by templates. You can disable this feature in preferences -> warnings -> confirmations, uncheck either all 3 checkboxes for old behaviour where it just always send a warning, or uncheck the last one, you will be prompted if you want to spam-post user or not. Petrb (talk) 13:40, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Petrb - will amend the settings now. Patient Zero^talk 01:49, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Ubuntu problem

When I use huggle in a computer with Ubuntu, letters with a "tilde" are not shown and a "Ã" is shown instead usually with another symbol in front.

Example: Avión / AviÃn or Aviðn

This is really annoying and confusing.--SRuizR 20:40, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Having problems with starting HG on Linux (Crostini)

I've installed Huggle on my computer with no issues (I've also installed snapd, alongside the squashf and FUSE dependencies), however, when I try to start it up I get this error message:

"This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "wayland-egl".

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, xcb.

Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. Aborted (core dumped)"

I've tried reinstalling it to no avail. Where am I going wrong? Patient Zero^talk 15:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Bumping this just in case nobody’s seen it —Patient Zero^talk 21:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Usernames

Hi, can there be a way for Huggle to have a "second queue" that loads new users in real-time? This will help keep track of abusive account names. One such script that already does that is User:Oshwah/NewUserPatrol.js. aeschylus (talk) 02:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Huggle doesn't support multiple parallel queues at this moment, only multiple separate queue filters or queue providers, but only 1 can be active at a time. It's technically possible to create a feed provider that would only provide new user creations - but queue expects edits or wiki pages, so it would need to point to some on-wiki page, perhaps userpage of new users, despite it would be empty in most cases, but it would do the job anyway, as you would see a stream of new usernames. Is this really something that would be beneficial? There would be some coding behind that. Petrb (talk) 10:38, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb, what about Special:Log/newusers? aeschylus (talk) 20:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

A way to increase the effectiveness of Huggle

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Config.yaml § A way to increase the effectiveness of Huggle

 – aeschylus (talk) 21:06, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Having problems with huggle reverting other stuff then I've intended

So, just got onto huggle for the first time in a while, and I'm unsure if it is lag or because of a display error, but a revert that I intended to do reverted another page entirely. Not sure if it's important, but I'm on a windows laptop, additionally my internet is pretty bad right now, but I'm not sure if thats the problem. Thanks! Flalf^Talk 00:42, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

A feature to not welcome/use different welcome template with older, stale accounts

@Gabriel.c.drummond.cole just contacted me saying they had been editing infrequently for 11 years, and that receiving a welcome template from me after I marked their edit as 'good' "felt impersonal and mildly insulting." Is there a way to, for a lack of a better way to put this, make an 'idiot-proof' feature so that I could opt-in to either not leave welcome templates on older accounts with few edits, or at least leave {{welcome-substantial}} when I do so? I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 21:05, 8 August 2021 (UTC) (fixed message at 21:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC))

Template:Huggle/warn-1 wording

I believe that Template:Huggle/warn-1 should include a link to the Teahouse rather than the Help desk. This is consistent with Template:Uw-vandalism1 and tends to be more useful for new editors. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 01:00, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Unable to use UAA reporting functionality on Huggle 3.4.10

The UAA user reporting function on Huggle 3.4.10 seems to be broken. Is it a bug or did I break the program? Optakeover^(U)(T)(C) 17:44, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Huggle just welcomed a bunch of people and I don't think I told it to

Special:Contributions/L3X1 you can see 4 welcomes followed by 7 and I am very certain I didn't click the welcome button, just the space bar to advance the queue. Is this new? ^Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 03:16, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, did you perhaps use G button (flag as good edit) instead of spacebar? I think in default settings Huggle welcomes users with empty talk pages in case that edit is considered good, you can disable it in preferences. Petrb (talk) 09:21, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

yes I did, thanks for explaining. ^Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 13:01, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Help Needed: Can Log In With New Password; Can't Revert an Edit, Logged out of Mediawiki etc.

I tried to log in to Huggle for the first time since early August. I could log in but could not revert an edit. I received the dreaded message: Logged out of Mediawiki. Relogging with password produced Aborted NeedToken expected. I reset my password. Same result, could log in but same error messages when I tried to revert an edit. Huggle would not work for that. This seems to be the same or a very similar problem that other users have had and noted in a thread two above. I don't see another option to try except resetting the password. I had the same problem about two years ago. Resetting the password solved it, but that hasn't worked now. I have rollback changes to pages checked in permissions. Help will be appreciated. CC: @Petrb:, @Oshwah:. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 22:43, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@SunDawn:, @DVdm:, @Patient Zero:, @TheresNoTime: - I thought I should let you know that my problem seems to be a continuation or another example of the problem that you have been having. Your thread does not appear to have resulted yet in an identification of the problem or overall solution as the last post about the problem is only two days ago. So my post amounts to a continuation of your thread by another user with the same problem rather than attaching it to the previous thread which you are probably monitoring. It is troubling to me if this bug is hitting users randomly and is not some overall, identifiable problem. Whatever it is, it appears that at least some users who would be patrolling through Huggle are sidelined for the time being. Donner60 (talk) 01:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Donner60: are you using Special:BotPasswords with Huggle, or your normal username and password? — xaosflux ^Talk 01:46, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: I have been using Special:BotPasswords. Donner60 (talk) 01:53, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Donner60: OK, you said you reset your password, but did you regenerate your Special:BotPassword? Occasionally (and especially if you change your account password) you will need to regenerate that as well. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: I went through the update again at Special:BotPassword and got yet another new password for the bot account. This didn't work to fix the problem on Huggle so I now think regeneration requires some other step and I don't know how to do a regeneration. Donner60 (talk) 02:19, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: I logged into Huggle after checking the box for mediawiki as well as enwiki. Now I can revert edits. I can't say I just remembered to do that; it was just a guess based on the logged out of mediawiki message. So I really don't know why it worked. I hope it stays fixed. Thanks for your help. Donner60 (talk) 03:08, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that is the nature of the bug: Sometimes it happens, sometimes it didn't happen - very hard to replicate. After I changed my Bot Password I also encounter problems, but I would say that the problems is much less frequent than few weeks ago. SunDawntalk 05:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Huggle fails here, miserably, even after multiple "reloads". I can't even exit from the application. - DVdm (talk) 09:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

This morning Huggle worked. This evening it doesn't. WTF is wrong here??? - DVdm (talk) 17:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

I tried Huggle 3.4.11 on Linux. Same misery. It works. And then it fails. Then it works again. And then it fails. There is no way to predict what will happen. Utter misery. - DVdm (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Huggle didn't change for a very long time, last release is like... year old. So if anything changed or broke it has to be something to do with MW installation Wikipedia uses. Anyway, without logs I am blind, I keep trying Huggle whole day, it just works with 0 errors. Didn't get logged out once. Petrb (talk) 20:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Preferences are temporary

Since installing Huggle my preferences never persist after closing the application. To get around this, I've been trying to manually change my config at User:RFZYNSPY/huggle.yaml.js. I'm still having issues, though, changing the "namespaces" variable such that the only edits that appear in my queue are article edits. Not user, user talk, article talk, wikipedia, or anything else. Just article. if anyone could help point me in the right direction I'd very much appreciate it. RFZYNSPY ^talk 23:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, are you using bot passwords? If yes, did you allow Huggle to modify your userspace css/js? If not, it won't be allowed to store your settings. Petrb (talk) 10:16, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Duplicate RFPP reports

Huggle does not appear to prevent the filing of duplicates. See [2] for context; [3] for a diff. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:27, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

T294090 Petrb (talk) 10:17, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Unable to login to wiki:. Result returned Aborted NeedToken expected

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T288104

Whenever I want to revert something, I got this error: Unable to login to wiki: Result returned Aborted NeedToken expected. An infobox appeared saying that I am logged out of MediaWiki for whatever reason, and told to re-input my password. Re-inputting the password result in the same error as above. Changing the bot password didn't work. Thank you. SunDawntalk 11:30, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, did you grant rollback permissions to your bot account? Petrb (talk) 10:16, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Getting this exact same problem tonight. I don't own a bot account, though I do use a bot password for Huggle (as I have 2FA enabled, I can't log into Huggle in the traditional way). Patient Zero^talk 23:34, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Finally managed to get onto HG, but it took me a considerable amount of attempts (closing the application then re-opening it several times until it finally worked). Would quite like it to be repaired nonetheless, as that was rather tedious to say the least --Patient Zero^talk 23:46, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

@SunDawn and Patient Zero: Same issue, I've logged T288104. Any additional info would be appreciated there - TheresNoTime ^😺 13:32, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, TheresNoTime - I'll take a look at that as I had the same issue again this afternoon! Patient Zero^talk 00:21, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

And this afternoon. I can logon, but I can't revert. - DVdm (talk) 15:28, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Given that Huggle is still same and it used to work and now it has problems, I suspect that something had to change on MediaWiki side. Anyway I can't reproduce this bug myself, I can login and rollback just fine. Petrb (talk) 18:49, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

One of the hardest part of this error is that it can't be reproduced reliably. After getting kicked out multiple times it will usually work. But the error will manifest only when I tried to do edits using Huggle, including sending Welcome message to other editors.SunDawntalk 07:44, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Up to now, I still couldn't rollback with Huggle. I reinstalled the latest version and it still failed. Then I tried the Reload button on the logon screen. It works now. I don't know if this is relevant, but I thought it might be. User Patient Zero, perhaps you can give it a try. - DVdm (talk) 13:14, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Forget that. Broken again. Sigh. - DVdm (talk) 14:18, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Today it worked. And then, in the afternoon, it failes again. - DVdm (talk) 13:15, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

It's working. - DVdm (talk) 16:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

It's not working. Good grief. - DVdm (talk) 18:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I’ll have a look at that now for you, DVdm. Patient Zero^talk 20:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks - It's working again, but only after I did another "Reload" :-) - DVdm (talk) 20:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I’m on my third reload and I’m having the exact same problem… Patient Zero^talk 20:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Working now after five reloads —Patient Zero^talk 20:37, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Looks like there's something rotten in the State of Denmark . - DVdm (talk) 20:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

TheresNoTime, DVdm, SunDawn and Petrb - I changed/reset my BotPassword and now it’s working just fine! :-) You might want to check what permissions it has, also? Patient Zero^talk 21:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

I changed my password. After a few fumbles (eg. creating a DVdm@DVdm@Hugglebot), when I just tried to logout, at the end when it says "Updating the user configuration page", I got a System logs message:

ERROR: Unable to edit User:DVdm/huggle.yaml.js because token I had in cache is no longer valid. Please try to edit that page once more.

Having no idea how to do that, I had to Reload a dozen or so times before I could make it work.

And then it failed.

And then it worked.

And then it failed.

And then it worked.

Sigh. - DVdm (talk) 08:54, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Here we go again. Big Fail. - DVdm (talk) 18:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Guys, pease follow mw:Manual:Huggle/Debugging just saying "it's broken" doesn't help ;) it works perfectly to me, I never get this kind of error when I try to reproduce it, and for that reason providing traffic dump and debug logs is essential, otherwise I have no chance to fix this. Petrb (talk) 15:25, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb: ok, I found the way to generate the files. When I have time and manage to create some of these files, where can I send them to? - DVdm (talk) 18:31, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

You can upload them using this link - https://cloud.bena.rocks/s/BgGkWsgHoX3J5PH Petrb (talk) 18:41, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Ok. Problem: I started as "C:\Program Files\Huggle\huggle.exe" -vv --syslog huggle.syslog --qd. It crashed upon exit, so I went looking for files huggle.syslog and querydump.dat. Alas, no such file anywhere to be found on my entire Win10 C-drive... - DVdm (talk) 19:03, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

You can give it full path after the parameter, such as --syslog C:\temp\huggle.log (assuming that folder is writable), also when you start Huggle it gives you some paths such as home path in syslog (there is a widget syslog on bottom of huggle's standard layout), it will be visible there, check these folders. Petrb (talk) 20:32, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb: ok, I have a syslog. Opened Huggle and immediately closed it. Resulted in the standard error and these last two lines:

ma okt 18 10:10:20 2021   DEBUG[1]: Query failed: badtoken details: See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/mediawiki-api-announce.lists.wikimedia.org/> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes.
ma okt 18 10:10:20 2021   ERROR: Unable to edit User:DVdm/huggle.yaml.js because token I had in cache is no longer valid. Please try to edit that page once more

Otoh, there's no querydump.dat under my home folder (or on my entire system). I have sent the huggle.syslog to that upload location. - DVdm (talk) 08:31, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

OK, can you try also supplying a path to --qd ? --qd C:\temp\querydump.log thanks Petrb (talk) 09:51, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

From that log I can also see that I am using much newer version despite I don't think that any logic connected to tokens was changed between .10 and current HEAD. Anyway you can also try that one - nightly builds are stored here: https://petr.insw.cz/huggle/nightly/huggle3.zip just unzip it, there is no installer. Petrb (talk) 09:57, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Tried this version Huggle version 3.4.11 ��b ^{(sic in syslog)}. Exact same behaviour. Restored version 3.4.10. - DVdm (talk) 10:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I hit "Reload" a few handfuls of times. Now I managed to open Huggle and exit without a problem. Twice. And then it failed again. Syslog file uploaded. - DVdm (talk) 10:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

OK, but can you also try to get the query dump? That is actually the essential part. See first of my 2 previous replies. Petrb (talk) 10:54, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb: done. I have sent huggle okt 19.syslog and querydump okt 19.log, both created on crash while trying a vandalism revert. - DVdm (talk) 13:29, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

OK - from query dump I can see detailed error from MW which results in this:

<?xml version="1.0"?><api><login result="Aborted" reason="Cannot log in when using MediaWiki\Session\BotPasswordSessionProvider sessions." /></api>

so it seems that MW doesn't like the "relogin" flow using botpasswords, I will need to investigate why, something had to change recently, because this used to work. Regarding why rollback failed - it seems to be this error: error code="badtoken" info="Invalid CSRF token.", it seems that MW now wants CSRF token instead of rollback token? That's pretty weird because it is also supplying rollback tokens after login - which seems to be useful for nothing right now? Meditate on this, I will... Petrb (talk) 20:25, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb: I just have uploaded a fresh huggle-01.syslog and querydump-01.log of a session where I entered Huggle and immediately closed it—with another crash. This should be independent of rollback tokens I guess... - DVdm (talk) 20:43, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes the crash is a different issue, I am focusing on reasons why rollback is failing and why you get this "aborted" error. BTW are you sure you set rollback permissions to that bot account you use? Because I can't understand why this is failing to you, while other users on enwiki can use same version of Huggle to rollback without any issues. Petrb (talk) 07:34, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb: I assume I have set rollback permissions to my bot account, as sometimes I can make rollback actions, and sometimes I can't. Usually, when I hit-hit-hit-hit-hit the reload button upon logon, I can perfectly work for a few sessions. And then it fails again.

Also, to add to the mystery, I had crashes when using the AIV report function after a number of successful rollback reverts. - DVdm (talk) 11:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

OK, for these crashes - can you provide a bit more information? How does it crash? What is the error you see? What is the action you do before the crash? Just login and out? OS is Windows 10 64bit? Petrb (talk) 10:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

The error I see is an OK-messagebox, titled "Fail" with the text "Unable to login to Wiki: Result returned Aborted NeedToken expected". When I click OK, Windows tries to find out what went wrong. I doesn't find anything. I have just sent Errormessage-03.png, huggle-03.syslog and querydump-03.log after a little session with login and a single revert attempt. - DVdm (talk) 10:45, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

I appear to be experiencing the same issues as DVdm. I'm running "Huggle 3.4.11 build: 3901 3.4.10-21-gbd74c5c" on Linux. I have provided syslogs and querydumps of both 1) a "successful Login > wait a few seconds > System/Exit" without any crashes or errors, 2) a "successful Login > wait a few seconds > System/Exit > Errors > Crash" including two screenshots of error windows with the crash occurring immediately after the second screenshot, and 3) a "successful Login > browse the queue for vandalism > Click "Revert edit and warn a user [Q]" button > Errors > Crash" including two screenshots of error windows with the crash occurring immediately after the second screenshot. In all four screenshots, the mouse cursor is hovering over what I'm about to click. As you can see the errors appear to be identical in both failed attempts. I have been having issues with this for several weeks now. In about 80-90% of session I get these errors and crashes. It appears to always happen, whenever Huggle attempts to make an edit to any wiki page (whether its the config in user space or a revert in main space). In the remaining 10-20%, where the first edit is successful, all edits afterwards appear to work as well. If there is anything else you need in order to fix this error, don't hesitate to ask for it here or on my talk page. AntiCedros (talk) 13:57, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Note

Just a note I am getting ready to download Huggle to my new PC. I just wanted to make the devs aware that Microsoft Edge (Chromium) marks it as a possibly dangerous download that its rarely downloaded incase anyone wants to note that in the article. Bobherry Talk Edits 19:43, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Windows 10 also marks Huggle as potentially dangerous upon installation. Just go advanced, and allow. Nothing to worry about. - DVdm (talk) 20:00, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

@DVdm: Oh I know. I think someone should make note of this in the article however. On another note I am on Windows 11 and it actually didn't. Bobherry Talk Edits 20:11, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Warnings on eswiki

Huggle doesn't appropriately detect warnings and warning levels on the Spanish Wikipedia.

• Existing warnings are not detected, even if they are recent
• Warning level only increases the first times you warn someone in a session, and it then stays at 1 even if you warn again
• Even if you just warned someone and Huggle detects the level as 1, it will keep sending first-time warnings, and won't increase the level Preocupante (talk) 11:24, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Dollar-sign in a username

At Tigray People's Liberation Front, an edit by Danunu$48 was reverted with Huggle. This turned into "Danunu03:31, 1 December 20218" in the edit summary. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 04:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Please help

Hi, I can't find the queue space on huggle. Please help -- Robertjamal12 (talk) 03:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Problems with loading Huggle

Hi there,

Even just a couple nights ago, I was able to use Huggle with no problem. Today, the queue won't load. I have tried logging out and back in several times, but still I am opening the browser to a completely blank queue. I'm not sure what the matter could be, and I would welcome some guidance to resolve this issue. Thank you, Dylan620 (he/him) (talk) 16:55, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Same issue here, and it's still not loading any edits. SWViewer appeared to have the same problem but it appears that it has already been resolved today. lavender|^{(formerly HMSSolent)}|lambast 06:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

edit: empty queues are occurring again there as well. lavender|^{(formerly HMSSolent)}|lambast 06:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I have had a similar problem and have changed the provider from 'XmlRcs' to 'Wiki' and it has burst into life. Never had to touch this area before. Neils51 (talk) 23:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I am also reporting the same issue. Changing the provider to Wiki or IRC populate the queue though. SunDawntalk 02:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Switched the provider to wiki per the suggestions here, and it worked — thank you so much! --Dylan620 (he/him | talk | edits) 18:32, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

It seems to work now, XmlRcs is returning edits. Preocupante (talk) 11:09, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

"Template:Huggle/xfd"

FYI Template:Huggle/xfd has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 19:42, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Temporarily watching pages

Twinkle allows you to watch pages you edit with it temporarily instead of permanently. It'd be nice if Huggle did the same. I like having a self-pruning watchlist. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 05:39, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

FIXEDHelp: login failing

Tried to open Huggle for the first time in a couple weeks, and when I pressed the login button it popped up a box saying "login failed (on enwiki) incorrect username or password entered please try again" I entered the username and password months ago when I first started using it and have never re-entered or changed them since. ^Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 03:07, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

resolved, I believe I accidentally added a character somewhere, manually retyping the password (chore) solved it. ^Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 02:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

@L3X1 Happens to the best of us. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 19:16, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Doubt

When I try to patrol a page using Huggle, the message appears: "The action you requested is not available because the page has not loaded or is in read-only mode. Please load a page that is editable before trying again.", I already clicked load and nothing happens, help me! Bernardo Botto (talk) 00:47, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

You need to have rollback rights before being able to use Huggle. Wgullyn (talk) 00:48, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Can't logon anymore

Can't logon to Huggle anymore. Uploaded files huggle-10.syslog and querydump-10.log to https://cloud.bena.rocks/s/BgGkWsgHoX3J5PH . - DVdm (talk) 15:28, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

@Petrb: by the way, ever since 22 October 2021, I have been able to use Huggle on just one occasion. It failed with the same kind of error on every other occasion - see Archives. - DVdm (talk) 15:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Note: today I managed to logon, revert an edit with user warning, and logout. Miracle? - DVdm (talk) 15:56, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Note: today I managed lo logon, did not try any reverts, then failed to logout. Uploaded files huggle-11.syslog and querydump-11.log to https://cloud.bena.rocks/s/BgGkWsgHoX3J5PH . - DVdm (talk) 15:49, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Can't log in; Aborted NeedToken expected

I can't log in to Huggle. I just reinstalled the program after changing special bot password. This still resulted in the message: "Unable to login to wiki: Result returned Aborted NeedToken expected." I have been mainly offline for a few months. I now recall that inability to log in to Huggle occurred at that earlier time. Help will be appreciated so I can get back to editing regularly. Donner60 (talk) 02:10, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

I have just been able to log in to Huggle. I didn't do anything differently, just tried again. I have made a few edits successfully. I'll be logging out soon and will come back here later if I have further trouble. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 02:31, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Can't edit through Huggle; Aborted NeedToken expected

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T288104

Today I can log in but I can't edit. I get the same "Unable to login to wiki: Result returned Aborted NeedToken expected" when I try to make an edit. I relogged several times. I also logged in directly to Mediawiki as well as en-wiki. Again, help will be appreciated. Donner60 (talk) 23:52, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Alas, there seems to be no cure. I gave up trying. Swapped Huggle for Wikipedia:RedWarn. It always works. - DVdm (talk) 23:57, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@DVdm: Thanks. I will give it a try.

For the time being right now, again totally randomly as yesterday, it's working for me. It is frustrating to try multiple times, wasting considerable time, and then as I have been about to give up, have it work again. I need to step away for possibly a few hours but I won't be closing Huggle and will hope it is still working later tonight. I have used Huggle for years and many thousands of edits. Now, a combination of inability to use Huggle regularly and some real life time issues have been holding me down. I'll be doing something here despite this. Donner60 (talk) 00:29, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Custom additions to templates while warning.

While on huggle, sometimes it's important to give a user extra information about why I reverted. For instance, redwarn has a function where you can add extra details. Something like this would be nice to have on huggle. Cheers! Sea Cow (talk) 21:30, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Software verhält sich merkwürdig

Huggle spült gerade uralte Edits in Warteschlange - teilweise mehr als ein Monat alt. Neustart hatte keinen Erfolg. Version: 3.4.10 build: 3880 3.4.10, kompiliert mithilfe QT 5.10.1 Läuft auf QT 5.10.1, basierend auf Chromium, Ziel-Plattform: windows/msvc/64 SSL: OpenSSL 1.0.2j 26 Sep 2016 --An-d (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

That may happen for a user who you have just reverted. Huggle realizes that this user may have issues, so they bring up the recent-ish edits that haven't had a edit after them, and are still standing. That's the only situation where I have had month old edits pop up. Sea Cow (talk) 14:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

I empty the queue and within a few seconds there are many edits from various users in the queue, some from January. --An-d (talk) 14:51, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

No idea in that case, that's odd. Sea Cow (talk) 14:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I'll wait and see then. --An-d (talk) 14:59, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Very slow performance/High CPU usage

I just got back into using Huggle after a few months not using it, and I'm finding that after a minute or so the interface becomes unresponsive if I'm using the "filtered new edits" queue, with clicks taking 10+ seconds to register, and the processor usage spikes to something like 40%. Sometimes when I click, the title of the window changes to say "(Not responding)" at the end. The longer I keep it open, the worse it gets. I'm using Huggle 3.4.10 on Windows 10. Are there just too many edits for the Huggle software to work in this case, or is there something wrong with my configuration? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:12, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Diff browser

What does "diff" mean in the first sentence in the article? Is it in the same sense as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff ? Uchiha Itachi 25 (talk) 13:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Are you sure you are on the proper place for this? I'm not sure what you are asking, plus, this is for Huggle Feedback. Based on how you don't have access to Huggle, you may not be in the right place. If you have general questions about wikipedia, please go to WP:Help Desk. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to me. Cheers! Sea Cow (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

New feature request

I want to request that huggle should be available in mobile devices (e.g. Android and iOS devices) because most users who visited Wikipedia uses smartphone and Android/iOS tablet computer. Vitaium (talk) 23:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Sound notification

Is the sound notification working, If yes, How can i enable it. _signed, 511KeV ^(talk) 11:21, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Queue popped

uh oh..

The following discussion is marked as answered. If you have a new comment, place it just below the box.

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Hi, I am using Arch Linux with KDE on wayland. I wasn't exactly sure what the diamond icon button meant, so I clicked on it. The queue popped up to its own window, and I can't seem to find any way to restore it back to normal. I tried reinstalling, but it didn't work. Can anyone help me on this? 0xDEADBEEF (T C) 10:37, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Huggle reports a home directory in its system log window when it starts. Copy it, shut it down, then go to that directory, there should be "configuration" go there and delete files mainwindow_geometry and mainwindow_state. Then start Huggle again, it will look as new. Petrb (talk) 13:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I'd thought that Qt should store this kind of settings somewhere, but I didn't know where it was. 0xDEADBEEF (T C) 13:18, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

I removed the queue...

I removed the queue using the little x button in the top-right corner of the queue box (see the top-right of the image above for details). And now I regret doing that. How do I get it back? interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 01:27, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi InterstateFive - have you tried going to System, then Options, then Interface, then Restore layout? Patient Zero^talk 01:45, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Apologies, Interstatefive - entered your username incorrectly. Hopefully that ping goes through. Patient Zero^talk 01:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Not yet. I'll try tomorrow because I usually get off in 13 minutes. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 01:47, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

That's fair. Do let me know tomorrow if it works! Patient Zero^talk 01:48, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

It worked! Thank you so much. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 17:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

No worries! :-) Patient Zero^talk 03:50, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

SqWiki

I recently downloaded Huggle to give it a try out of curiosity but I saw that my homewiki (SqWiki) was lacking from it. How do such projects get added to it?

PS: I saw that Huggle was snapd. Some time ago I've asked about AWB being snapd as well but no one answered. Just out of curiosity, would that be possible theoretically? Would any of the developers of Huggle be interested in that aspect? - Klein Muçi (talk) 04:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Addshore, @Petrb, sorry for the ping. Maybe you have some time to answer my question above. - Klein Muçi (talk) 01:32, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Huggle is native Linux. It just happens so that it is packaged on snapd. I'd imagine porting AWB to be much harder. 0xDeadbeef (T C) 02:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Font size

Sometime after I upgraded my OS tp Win11, my Huggle usage declined to near zero because the font size in the article diff is stuck at too-big and I've been unable to reduce its size with the font size box in systems>options>interface. It's stuck at 24. If I'm missing something which ought to be obvious, and someone has the time, could you help me out via an exchange on my user talk page? Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:34, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

This led to discussion at user talk:Wtmitchell#Huggle. The result of that, as far as I understand, is that Huggle 3.4.10 is not compatable with Windows11 on my Dell laptop, either with just the laptop display or with an additional HDMI display because the System>Setup>Interface options Font Size option (which can only be readjusted with two displays configured) does not change the size of the font in any of the displayed text and the default too-big font is just way too big to be worked with. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:42, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 6 June 2022

For {{Huggle/warn-1}}, I propose that the link to the help desk be changed to a link to the teahouse, to be in line with {{uw-vandalism1}} and because most people who get warned with this template are newcomers and may desire a more welcoming environment. interstatefive  15:10, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done, sort of. Since the link has been to the Help desk for more than four years, now, and it was then changed through discussion and consensus, I've included the Teahouse link along with it to offer editors two choices instead of just one. Thank you and hope this helps! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 10:43, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, please do keep in mind that this template, {{Huggle/warn-1}}, is substituted, so new changes will only be seen in future usages. Past usages, if correctly substituted, will remain the same as when they were applied. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 20:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Template:Huggle/warn-test-3

Presently this redirects to {{Huggle/warn-3}}. This means that if you warn a user for editing tests and they have a level 2 warning, it warns them as if they were deliberately vandalizing, and they probably weren't. Should the redirect be changed to an adapted version of {{uw-test3}}? I would've done it myself but I don't know much about template syntax. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 15:54, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Interstatefive! Thanks for noticing this. :-) I went ahead and incorporated the uw-test3 template into Huggle/warn-test-3 and added the necessary parameters for its proper operation and use. If you could test this for me and make sure that it works, it would be very helpful. My Huggle isn't cooperating right now, and I need to figure out why. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

How to reduce the chance of accidentally hitting keys

I learned that the Q key reverts the edit and warns the user. Problem is, I sometimes hit that key by accident. Is there some way to change the keyboard shortcuts? weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 16:42, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Weeklyd3 If that happens press the escape key as fast as you can. If you are too late, manually undo it via the edit history in the bottom-left corner (right-click the accidental revert and click "undo", same for the warning). interstatefive  21:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Comment from the sidelines -- Until I had to stop using Huggle because of the problem of un-adjustable font-size, I often had this problem because q means quit in many, many other online situations. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:39, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Yea. Somehow I can't find the settings 'Save' button because my font size was too large. If I could, I would have changed the shortcut to something implausible like Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Q because I normally open it in the browser to revert it. Decreasing it made my text unreadable. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 05:15, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh. I finally found the save button. I had to reduce the font size in my ~/.bashrc if anyone runs into this problem. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 05:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Issue fixed.

Resolved

weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 05:19, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Regular user edits detected by Huggle

I'm starting to notice some regular user and administrator good faith edits detected by Huggle software. Is there something wrong with the whitelist? Jalen Folf (talk) 01:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I’ve been noticing that too. When I try and visit the allow list I get a 502 error. Mr.weedle (talk) 15:56, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

diff window

Hi, does anyone know why some of the Hebrew letters are not displayed properly in the diff window, even though it is fine in the rest of the software? Screenshot.
I installed the software on ubuntu using snap. —מקף⁻ණ‎‏ (Hyphen) 07:57, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Make software v real rollback selectable for certain revert types

Hey team,

Was recently brought to my attention that Huggle is rolling back non-vandal type changes and marking them as Minor edits. This goes against WP:MINOR, as only obvious vandalism should be tagged as minor. A good example is rolling back uncited content.

I’d love to be able to control this per reason type in Huggle. That way I can maintain good speed in patrolling changes rather than having to edit by hand or use software rollback for everything.

Thanks Mr.weedle (talk) 14:14, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

For context: User talk:Mr.weedle/Archive 1#Marking edits as minor. Femke (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Hey @Femke, rollbacks themselves are normally marked as minor edits. I would imagine that the intention was for rollbacks to be minor edits based on the fact it's hard coded this way. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:04, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

WP:Rollback only has a set of specific uses, all minor edits. But people using Huggle can revert for different reasons (unsourced edits for instance, or NPOV concerns). Surely it must be possible to do this in a way that complies with WP:MINOR. Femke (talk) 18:28, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately, unlike AWB, I've looked and haven't seen anything in the settings that would allow us to change it from being a minor edit. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Local Time vs UTC in Talk warnings

Hello. When I was reverting vandalism, Huggle warned this talk page. Since there was a Cluebot edit before, it starts with October and then mine is September due to me being UTC-4. This only affects the days in surrounding month changes, yet still is a little confusing to those warned. This only impacts me for around 4-5 hours, but for others it could be up to 12 or so. Maybe Huggle could follow UTC for month warnings? I don't know if this is worth fixing, but wanted to let you know. Thanks, VTVL (talk) 04:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Issue with shortcut key assignment vs 'revert and warn user' drop-down menu on the toolbar

Hi there! I hope everyone here is doing well. :-) So.... I just noticed on Huggle that the order of the 'revert and warn user' drop-down menu on the toolbar has been completely changed. It looks like it's now alphabetized instead of the way that it previously was. What's even more strange is that the shortcut options "trigger Nth item in revert and warn menu" (such as 'main-revert-and-warn-0' and so on) have not changed at all. The shortcut keys that I put on each item in the shortcut settings window still correspond to the drop-down menu's original order, as I found out when making reverts using those shortcut keys. There also isn't a 'main-revert-and-warn-21' option for adding a shortcut to revert and warn the user for vandalism (according to the new menu order), even though the Q shortcut exists by default to do the exact same thing.

I've always found this exact shortcut assignment window and how it works to be ridiculously over-complicated, and the changes made to the order of the drop-down menu now breaks it; how things are currently means that users can't assign keyboard shortcuts to these "Nth item" functions unless they know what the previous order of them used to be. What's even worse is that users might figure out what 'main-revert-and-warn-0' (or another) refers to, and just to discover that they're actually warning users for a different reason that they assigned the shortcut to.

I've verified that I'm on the current release, which I downloaded from WP:HG (3.4.10), so is this drop-down menu order not something compiled into the application itself? ...What happened? (Please ping me in any responses; I don't have this page on my watchlist). Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:00, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for merger of Template:IPvandal

Template:IPvandal has been nominated for merging with Template:Vandal. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 21:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Impending Death of Huggle

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T306076

As I understand it, Huggle relies on the backend at http://xmlrcs.huggle.eqiad1.wikimedia.cloud/ which is powered by a cloud-vps instance, 'xmlrcs.huggle.eqiad1.wikimedia.cloud' That instance is running an OS that is no longer supported, and has been slated for deletion for several months.

This issue is documented and tracked on this phabricator task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T306076

If there is followup on that task that suggests a path forward then it is possible to delay the deletion. So far we have been unable to contact anyone involved with the cloud-vps project (although, to be fair, it never had very many admins.) AndrewBogott (WMF) (talk) 16:59, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

@AndrewBogott (WMF) @Addshore has not edited in one month, and @Petrb has not edited in two months. I am available to help if there's a need. I am an admin on the wm-bot project which also relies on XMLRCS. ~ Matthewrb ^{Talk to me · Changes I've made} 03:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

I reached out to Petrb off-wiki. Legoktm (talk) 16:46, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, it's resolved, no worries, Huggle is not dying any time soon ;) Petrb (talk) 18:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the followup! Andrewbogott (talk) 00:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Just saw this update. Thank you very much Petrb! DB1729^talk 05:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Inappropriate warnings after editor's last edit

Special:Contributions/Happydad69 made a number of edits, two of which I reverted with Huggle.

• Happydad69 edited Bernice Johnson Reagon @ 02:38, 16 November 2022. I reverted and a warning was added to Happydad69's talk page at 02:39, 16 November 2022.

I stepped away for ~30 minutes. I then went through Huggle's list of Happydad69's previous edits. The previous day,

• Happydad69 edited Smith @ 19:33, 15 November 2022 . I reverted and an additional warning was added 03:11, 16 November 2022.

As Happydad69's last edit was 02:39, 16 November 2022, my second warning, I believe, should not have been added. Is there a way to prevent this? I don't believe I was aware that the second warning was added (4 days and 1.5k edits ago) until Aaron Liu politely notified me about it. Thanks Adakiko (talk) 00:53, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

• I don't believe I've adjusted any settings in System->Options->Warnings All are checked except for the 4th & 5th boxes. V. 3.4.10 Adakiko (talk) 02:24, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Huggle not warning users

I am using the revert and warn button, but every time I click it Huggle will only rollback and not warn. I don't know why it's doing this. RPI2026F1 (talk) 22:18, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Nevermind, when I made the bot password I forgot to allow creating pages. RPI2026F1 (talk) 00:50, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Tool - History - Help needed

I used to able to move the order " History Tool user, size, Id, summary, Time" and change the lenght of the display, but somehow the system doesnt allow it anymore. Pls advice how to do it. Cassiopeia talk 23:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Crash after reporting user

Tracked in github.com
Issue #354
Resolved

Every time I conduct either an auto or manual report of a user, huggle crashes. I am on version Version: 3.4.11 on linux. Philipnelson99 (talk) 20:43, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Ditto here on Windows 10, same version of Huggle. It crashes on every AIV report. LizardJr8 (talk) 05:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Same here on macOS, every AIV report. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 22:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Crashes on AIV reports just about every time: With Windows 11 Home Version 22H2 Installed on 1/‎9/‎2023 OS build 22621.1105 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22638.1000.0. Also associated with Firefox hanging for lengthy periods. Adakiko (talk) 22:43, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

From the GitHub thread, it sounds like the January 4th, 2023 release (version 3.4.11) has a bug. The fix is already merged into master. Just need to do a release to get the fix into production. I have no idea how active the devs are on this repo, but hopefully the GitHub thread gets the boss's attention. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

3.4.12 has been released. Install the new version and this bug should be fixed. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:09, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Level 3 warning templates need to be updated

All of the level 3 multi-level warning templates (except for uw-disrupt3) have been updated so they read out "Please stop." instead of "Please stop your disruptive editing." in the first line, but from what I see, the templates used by Huggle haven't been updated yet. AP 499D25 (talk) 10:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Snap version outdated

The snap version of Huggle is still on version 3.4.11, so it's still susceptible to the "crashing on report" bug. Could someone please update it to 3.4.12? MaterialWorks ^{ping me!} 12:25, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Warning levels not rising

Hi, when pressing Q or clicking the button to revert and warn, the warning level is sometimes not rising when warning a user I warned before. Here I gave this IP a level 1 warning by pressing Q, but then I pressed Q with another edit of the same IP and a level 1 warning was given again. Later, I pressed Q with another edit of the same IP and effectively a level 2 warning was given, but after that I pressed Q once again with another edit of the same IP and a level 1 warning was given. What's going on? --SRuizR 04:43, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Typo

Scripting > Show scipting manual. Should be scripting manual. 123Writer ^talk 123Writer ^talk 18:28, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Error: Microsoft app needed?

I've just got a new computer running Windows 11 and when I downloaded the newest Huggle and tried to install it, I got a notice from Windows that I have to install an app for this task. Does anyone know what this might be referring to? Is it .NET maybe? ... discospinster _talk 17:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

I still don't know why it does this but I found the workaround: I had to right-click on the Huggle installer and choose "Troubleshoot compatibility" which then switched compatibility to Windows 8. ... discospinster _talk 19:29, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Changing watchlist time

I've noticed how Huggle will add pages you edit (such as AIV) to your watchlist permanently. Sometimes this is useful, but other times it clutters up my watchlist with random edits to pages I don't need to watch (such as consistently seeing random AIV reports of IPs I have not seen vandalized). Is there a way to make watching temporary? interstatefive  23:35, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't look like you have any custom changes or settings saved from Huggle to your Wikipedia profile - both your huggle.css and huggle3.css pages are empty (though you do have a huggle.yaml.js page). While I don't believe Huggle currently supports a way to temporarily add pages to your watchlist automatically, you can certainly disable that setting altogether. In Huggle, if you go to System --> Options, under the "Warnings" tab, you can untick the "Watch the talkpage of a user who received a warning from you" setting to turn that off. Hope this helps! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

It would be nice to have an option to set a watch time limit as is offered when clicking the star/watch icon. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 19:53, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

"Automatically resolve edit conflicts" behavior

Can someone explain to me how this function works? I get a lot of messages about how there are "newer edits" to an article and I'm wondering if enabling this option will automatically say no to the dialog. Funnyfarmofdoom _{(talk to me)} 22:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Toolforge Grid Engine shutdown

I saw your bot on a list of bots that still use wikitech:Grid. Grid is getting sunset soon, and everyone is supposed to upgrade to wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Jobs framework. Code updates will probably be required to keep your bot working. Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Toolforge Grid Engine shutdown for more details. Hope this helps. Happy editing. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:01, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

XmlRcs feed is down

The XmlRcs feed has been down for a while now due to the redis error that pops up occasionally. Just wondering if someone could restart it. Philipnelson99 (talk) 19:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

It's back up, for now. Will try to make some progress on eliminating the bug that causes this! Philipnelson99 (talk) 02:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Huggle fail

When I try to revert an edit, it says "Unable to login to wiki: Result returned Aborted NeedToken expected" and "It looks like you were logged out of MediaWiki for some reason". Which issue is this? – 64andtim ^(talk) 18:47, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Known issue, T288104. Doesn't seem to be any workarounds yet, frustratingly... WindTempos ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Frantically hitting the logon window reload button a few dozen times seems to help. Sometimes - DVdm (talk) 13:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Vietnamese missing

Already translated into Vietnamese but it's missing in language list. Is there any issues? Hide on Rosé (thảo luận) 09:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

XmlRcs is broken again

~nt~ Q ^{T C} 04:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Stats Page

I have a somewhat frequently updated mainspace statistics page for Huggle at User:Philipnelson99/Huggle Stats if anyone is interested. I try to keep it updated as often as I can. Philipnelson99 (talk) 05:03, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Ooh, interesting. Thank you! Synorem (talk) 18:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Auto-closing on start

My huggle is closing whenever I get past the "Welcome to Huggle!" screen. I press "OK," it opens the login screen, but it's frozen and nothing can be pressed nor typed. After about 3 seconds in this state, it closes automatically. I'm using 64 bit Windows 11, on an AMD Ryzen chip. BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 09:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at wikitech:News/Cloud VPS 2024 Purge

 You are invited to join the discussion at wikitech:News/Cloud VPS 2024 Purge. –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Whitelist link broken

When I click the "whitelist" link at the top of the page, it takes me to this page, giving an error message. GoldRomean (talk) 18:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Huggle not logged in on startup and stealthily logs out

Sometimes when starting Huggle, I find I am not logged in. I get the message:

It looks that you were logged out of MediaWiki for whatever reason. Because huggle doesn't store your password, it is necessary to provide it again so that it can try to relog you. Please enter your password in the box bellow [sic].

Options: Exit huggle without saving your configs, Relog.

Relog has never worked. I have to exit Huggle and restart.
After working nominally for a while, my reverts and warnings are no longer performed. It appears I was stealthily logged out. Edits are undone and no warning was added to the user's talk page. This occurs much less often then the initial login problem.
I do see a lot of warnings and errors on startup, including:

• ERROR: XmlRcs failed: redis is empty for 10 seconds
• WARNING: API query (revisions): Because "rvslots" was not specified, a legacy format has been used for the output. This format is deprecated, and in the future the new format will always be used.

Any idea what is going on here? Is there something I can do to fix it? Would it be possible to add something that would continuously or as least periodically check the login status? Especially on startup? Thank you! Adakiko (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

BTW: The initial login issue seems to occur in clusters; good logins for a period then difficulty in logging in for a period. Adakiko (talk) 22:07, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

This has been happening to me too. I have no idea why Huggle / MediaWiki is doing this. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 16:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Separate block and delete buttons

See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Handwriting and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1234934837#Mistaken_deletion. Is there a chance that the buttons for blocking and page deletion could be separated from each other, so it's harder to click one when you're trying to click the other? I've never used Huggle myself and don't plan to, so I can't offer further feedback. Nyttend (talk) 22:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

The "Whitelist" link is broken.

I can't access the whitelist link on either meta or en wikipedia. On meta, it navigates to a 404 page for Apache, and on the en wikipedia page, it returns "This web service cannot be reached. Please contact a maintainer of this project." Thanks, Lordseriouspig 07:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Notification error

Sometimes, when I tag a page with speedy deletion, Huggle notifies the incorrect user.[4][5]. Ae245 (talk) 09:25, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

• It happened again [6] (this time by restore revision). Ae245 (talk) 19:00, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  • [7]. Frost 18:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Chromebook

How do I install on Chromebook? Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 19:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Some old Huggle templates nominated for deletion

I'm pretty sure that these templates have been unused for a long time. If not, please comment in the TFD and explain how they are used. If they are used, they need to be documented correctly.

Template:Huggle/speedy-club has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Automatically added to list of users – an unapproved automated edit

I'm not a fan of the fact that users are automatically added to Wikipedia:Huggle/Users. Apparently, every time you sign in with the tool it will re-add you to the list, even if you've removed yourself. I don't agree with the premise that logging in should cause the tool to automatically make an edit that I did not intend for it to. Please provide opt out functionality or turn this off. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh: I do not know enough about how this works, but perhaps you could try putting:

userlistsync: false

in to your own Special:MyPage/huggle.yaml.js ? — xaosflux ^Talk 13:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion @Xaosflux. I may have placed it at the wrong spot in the file for all I know, but I gave it a shot and I was still re-added. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, you'll have to wait for one of the developers to comment. You could also try to open a feature request (perhaps allowing override in the user yaml file). — xaosflux ^Talk 14:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I recognize I'm more annoyed than I probably should be, but this has honestly stopped me from using Huggle for AV. I'm just not okay with the program making unapproved edits which I'm not being prompting for in any way. It also serves absolutely no purpose to add people to this list except to possibly promote that a number of people use it?

I'm shocked this has been done automatically for so long. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Someone brought this up on an unrelated Phabicrator ticket, which Petrb replied to here. @Petrb: I'm not sure if you actually looked at the link that Yoshi shared, but this IS the talk page for Huggle. I see no reason why folks would object to stopping Huggle from making unapproved edits that cannot be stopped or opted out of. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Following up on this to see if there's any intention to address this... Otherwise I think an explanation that this edit will happen, and perhaps the purpose for it, should be added to Wikipedia:Huggle. I've wanted to use the tool, but I'm fundamentally opposed to the unapproved edits that cannot be stopped. I'm frustrated by the situation, especially considering @Petrb responded on Phab to someone and said to bring this up at the talk page, which I've obviously done. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:56, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for late answer, I am far less active than I would like to be due to some personal issues. I agree that this feature should probably not be mandatory. The reason why it is, is simply that it always was, even since Huggle 0.x versions from Gurch. There was a mechanism that allowed "banning" selected people from Huggle simply by removing them from that list and preventing them from writing to that page (this feature IMHO no longer works) and this page was also used to simply track a list of active Huggle users (people did wipe it from time to time). But other than that it probably no longer serves any other purpose. My understanding was that there was a consensus that this list should exist and that it should be mandatory for people to put themselves in there in order to use Huggle so that Wikipedia administrators can easily keep a track. But maybe my understanding was wrong. If this feature is not desired, than indeed I think we should either remove it entirely, or at least make it possible to disable it. There are definitely other, more reliable, methods to verify that someone uses Huggle. Petrb (talk) 09:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Anyway, I quickly checked the source code and this feature is already optional, but it's defined per project, not per user. You can modify Project:Huggle/Config.yaml and change userlistsync to false and this feature is going to be disabled. I used to be able to modify that config page, but due to my inactivity my elevated permissions on Wikipedia were revoked. You will probably need to ask some Administrator to do that. Petrb (talk) 10:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into this @Petrb. I am actually an administrator, but I did not want to overstep. If you're fine with it, I'm happy to modify the setting. Hey man im josh (talk) 10:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I don't really care about this setting, but my understanding was that there was some consensus among the Wikipedia community, or perhaps other administrators, that this was necessary, and I was hoping someone who was around back in 2008, when this feature was implemented, might shed some light on this. Given that nobody here has voiced any sort of disagreement with disabling this feature, I think you can go ahead and just do it. In the worst case, we can always bring it back. Petrb (talk) 08:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Done. I'm happy to say that the edit is now not being made to Wikipedia:Huggle/Users. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)