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[edit]03:43, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Killianordono
[edit]i had to submit multiples times because of people making changes but it is the right requirement for a page. Killianordono (talk) 03:43, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Killianordono: None of your sources are usable (the only one that isn't an online storefront or social media is Genius), and even if they were they aren't properly cited. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 03:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- properly cited? as in what how do you do that and i didnt know any sources because i myself is making it about me so there really isnt any sources its the actual person who knows themselves the most writing the article. Killianordono (talk) 03:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Killianordono: I linked Help:Referencing for beginners above. As to
the actual person who knows themselves the most
we absolutely cannot rely on "just trust me bro", especially if the person asserting that is the subject themselves. We are looking for in-depth, non-routine, independent-of-the-subject news/scholarly sources that discuss the subject at length, are written by identifiable authors, and are subject to fact-checking and other editorial processes. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 04:00, 29 November 2024 (UTC)- ive fixed the article can it be submitted now? Killianordono (talk) 04:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, because all of your sources are still unusable (as they're the same ones dismissed before) and you still haven't actually properly cited them. (Those angry red notes are malformed cites.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 08:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- ive fixed the article can it be submitted now? Killianordono (talk) 04:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Killianordono: I linked Help:Referencing for beginners above. As to
- properly cited? as in what how do you do that and i didnt know any sources because i myself is making it about me so there really isnt any sources its the actual person who knows themselves the most writing the article. Killianordono (talk) 03:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
04:12, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Thehistorianisaac
[edit]How long does a draft need to be for the submission to be accepted? I translated an article from chinese wikipedia but the draft is pretty short compared to some other AfC submissions because tonnes of info related to it are classified Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:12, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Thehistorianisaac: Length isn't relevant, compliance with English Wikipedia's sourcing/notability requirements is. Straight translations generally don't work for this reason. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 04:15, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
04:32, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Divya Ramadoss
[edit]I dont understand why my article is getting rejected. it is not promotion angle, i strongly feel the article is not an advertisement of the person.kindly help. Divya Ramadoss (talk) 04:32, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Divya Ramadoss: The article does a lot of editorialising, and is filled with as much buzzwords as your average badly-written article on a company. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 04:37, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback. I will revise the article to remove any promotional language and ensure it is neutral and fact-based, supported by reliable, third-party sources. The subject is notable for its contributions to the society, with coverage in reputable publications like economic times. Please let me know if there are additional specific changes needed to meet Wikipedia's standards. I appreciate your guidance. Divya Ramadoss (talk) 10:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Divya Ramadoss You took a picture of Mrs. Britto and she posed for you. You also were apparently at a wedding that she attended. Please describe your connection to her. 331dot (talk) 10:19, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message. I have no personal or professional connection to Mrs. Britto. The photo was taken with her consent during a photoshoot for an interview for Galatta Media. My intention is solely to contribute verifiable and neutral content about her based on publicly available, reliable sources. Please let me know if further clarification is needed. Divya Ramadoss (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Divya Ramadoss: that doesn't really answer the question that was posed. From the photos alone, it would seem that you keep bumping into the subject, and taking photos of her, which would suggest some sort relationship. Or else you didn't take these photos, and cannot therefore claim them as your own work. Could you please clarify? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your follow-up. To clarify, I am a freelance social media marketing professional and was commissioned by Galatta Media to assist with content creation for an interview featuring Mrs. Britto. The photos were taken as part of this project with her consent. However, if the photo is a concern, I am happy to remove it to ensure compliance with Wikipedia’s policies. Please let me know how best to proceed. Divya Ramadoss (talk) 04:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Divya Ramadoss: that doesn't really answer the question that was posed. From the photos alone, it would seem that you keep bumping into the subject, and taking photos of her, which would suggest some sort relationship. Or else you didn't take these photos, and cannot therefore claim them as your own work. Could you please clarify? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message. I have no personal or professional connection to Mrs. Britto. The photo was taken with her consent during a photoshoot for an interview for Galatta Media. My intention is solely to contribute verifiable and neutral content about her based on publicly available, reliable sources. Please let me know if further clarification is needed. Divya Ramadoss (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Divya Ramadoss You took a picture of Mrs. Britto and she posed for you. You also were apparently at a wedding that she attended. Please describe your connection to her. 331dot (talk) 10:19, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback. I will revise the article to remove any promotional language and ensure it is neutral and fact-based, supported by reliable, third-party sources. The subject is notable for its contributions to the society, with coverage in reputable publications like economic times. Please let me know if there are additional specific changes needed to meet Wikipedia's standards. I appreciate your guidance. Divya Ramadoss (talk) 10:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
04:36, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Aesthemii
[edit]how do i fix my draft article to it could pass the review? what more reference do i need ? what more do i include? Aesthemii (talk) 04:36, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Aesthemii first of all, you need to properly format the references using inline citations, instead of dumping them at the bottom of the draft. You also need more reliable sources. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:30, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
09:17, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Intenselatte
[edit]- Intenselatte (talk · contribs)
not sure what i need to add to make it sufficient Intenselatte (talk) 09:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately nothing, @Intenselatte, as I see nothing that makes this person meet our Wikipedia:Notability criteria. qcne (talk) 09:32, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Intenselatte What is your connection with this person, as you took a picture of them? 331dot (talk) 09:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
10:01, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Aaron Bradley10
[edit]Approval For Aaron Bradley Page. Aaron Bradley10 (talk) 10:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Aaron Bradley10 You will need to resubmit the draft for review for it to be considered, which you should only do if you have addressed the concerns of the last reviewer. Note that writing about yourself, while not absolutely forbidden, is highly discouraged, please see the autobiography policy. We don't want to know what you say about yourself, only what independent reliable sources choose to say about you. 331dot (talk) 10:09, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- On your user page, you say you have been paid by Aaron Bradley- if you are not him, you must change your username immediately, please do so via Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 10:10, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
11:55, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Veer27Gupta
[edit]- Veer27Gupta (talk · contribs)
I was creating a new page about ISKCON UJJAIN but something is missing there which makes it declining again and again I'm unable to understand what changes should be done to make it accepted Veer27Gupta (talk) 11:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Veer27Gupta: the draft is unreferenced, and only lists the subject's own website as sources. No subject can establish its own notability; we need to see significant coverage in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and entirely independent of the subject. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- can I provide reference of wikipedia and resources other than only using their website will make the article publishable, or I have to do some more changes Veer27Gupta (talk) 12:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Veer27Gupta: since you ask, yes, you will probably need to rewrite much of this. Wikipedia articles mostly summarise what independent and reliable sources have previously published about a subject. So you need to start by finding such sources, summarising them (in your own words – no copypasting!), and citing each source against the information it has provided. That will give you the appropriate content, required referencing, and the necessary evidence of notability. You may then supplement this with small amount of factual and non-contentious information from primary sources such as the subject's website, but the draft should be predominantly based on third party sources, not on what you know about this subject or what the subject wants to tell the world about itself. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:05, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- can I provide reference of wikipedia and resources other than only using their website will make the article publishable, or I have to do some more changes Veer27Gupta (talk) 12:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
14:07, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Thehistorianisaac
[edit]I received a comment in my talk page which claimed that my draft had been "created" but when i tried to search it turns out it was not an article yet. May i ask what is going on? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 14:07, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Thehistorianisaac: I think it's someone playing games. I'll go have a word with them... -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:12, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
18:30, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Zoe Sharma
[edit]- Zoe Sharma (talk · contribs)
Because even after providing for reliable references my article is rejected and now I can't resubmit it since the option has been disabled. Zoe Sharma (talk) 18:30, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Zoe Sharma: that is correct, this draft has been rejected, because after multiple reviews there is no meaningful referencing, and even less any evidence of notability. That's is the end of the road for this draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please go through the references that I have provided, they are meaningful as well as reliable. Zoe Sharma (talk) 18:51, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Zoe Sharma: they are not meanintful, they are completely meaningless; they aren't even proper references, just websites. References are meant to support information in the draft. These just point to the home pages of random websites. And they are not cited anywhere in the text, merely piled on at the bottom. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:56, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I mentioned 2 such references which are mentioned in the text. However they were also rejected. Zoe Sharma (talk) 19:03, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Zoe Sharma: there are no references "mentioned in the text". -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:09, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Zoe Sharma: You have a one-sentence "draft" which makes no mention of any outlets, and your sources are all website homepages, rather than articles on those domains as we require. We're not going to spend hours hunting down the articles you're trying to cite because you're not inclined to do the work. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 19:37, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since I was the one rejecting the draft, I should perhaps be clear about this: I searched both Hindustan Times and Washington Post for mentions of Era Joshi, but there was nothing. Also, the draft text is copied straight from Joshi's own website (which has no other info). It's rather obvious that Era Joshi is simply not notable. Maybe she will become notable in the future, but not yet. --bonadea contributions talk 21:06, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I mentioned 2 such references which are mentioned in the text. However they were also rejected. Zoe Sharma (talk) 19:03, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Zoe Sharma: they are not meanintful, they are completely meaningless; they aren't even proper references, just websites. References are meant to support information in the draft. These just point to the home pages of random websites. And they are not cited anywhere in the text, merely piled on at the bottom. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:56, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please go through the references that I have provided, they are meaningful as well as reliable. Zoe Sharma (talk) 18:51, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
21:53, 29 November 2024 review of submission by Bibi Raheela
[edit]- Bibi Raheela (talk · contribs)
Dear I hope this message finds you well. I recently submitted an article about my company, Digitonz, but it was unfortunately rejected. I understand there may be areas for improvement, and I would appreciate your guidance on how I can enhance the article to meet Wikipedia's standards.
I have been working in this field since 2014 and registered my company in 2024. I want to ensure the content adheres to Wikipedia's guidelines, and I am open to any suggestions or support you can provide in making the necessary improvements.
Could you please advise on what changes I need to make to improve the article? Any help in pointing out specific areas for revision would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
Best regards, Bibi Roheel Sarhandi Founder, Digitonz Bibi Raheela (talk) 21:53, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is nothing you can do, Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell about themselves. See WP:COI as well. 331dot (talk) 21:56, 29 November 2024 (UTC)