Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Meatmaster Sheep

Meatmaster Sheep

The filing party (the editor who opened this request) will add the basic details for this dispute below.

Editors involved in this dispute

1. Justice Malanot (talk · contribs) – filing party
2. Example2 (talk · contribs) Justice Malanot (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
3. Example3 (talk · contribs) User:Justlettersandnumbers and User:HJ Mitchell

Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meatmaster

Kindly see the Talk page at  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Justice_Malanot#August_2014

My Email to HJ Mitchell on the issue was ignored. It was sent via the Wikipedia message system.

Have resend the following Subject: Copy of your message to HJ Mitchell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Meatmaster_Sheep

Greeting HJ

Just a heads up -have been trying to get hold of you without success. I have requested mediation for resolving the Meatmaster page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Meatmaster_Sheep

It boils down to a misunderstanding and poor communication -but there is no bad blood or ill fleeing involved, it is a bona fide sincere attempt to get the matteer resolved. If we can resolve it with proper communication that would be great

Sincerely

Justice Malanot

-- This email was sent by user "Justice Malanot" on the English Wikipedia to user "HJ Mitchell". It has been automatically delivered and the Wikimedia Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents.

Subject: Copy of your message to Justlettersandnumbers: Wikipedia email

Greetings

Just a short heads up about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Meatmaster_Sheep

This is just to confirm that there have been some miscommunication on the issue -no bad blood or ill feeling intended. I didnt get your message and you didnt get mine

Just trying to get the issue resolved to the benefit of everyone using better communication skills.

Sincerely

Justice Malanot

-- This email was sent by user "Justice Malanot" on the English Wikipedia to user "Justlettersandnumbers". It has been automatically delivered and the Wikimedia Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice Malanot (talk • contribs) 11:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

it is now 09/05 and still no communication.Justice Malanot (talk) 08:15, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Issues to be mediated

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Primary issues (added by the filing party)

1. Mr Justice Malanot, the moderator of the Meatmaster Facebook group, is the original source of the edit on the Wikipedia Meatmaster entry
2. A Webmaster from lenasialivestock.co.za copied the Wikipedia entry and put up a Copyright sign. This caused another editor Justlettersandnumbers to allege copyright infringement against Mr Justice Malanot and to delete the original Wikipedia entry. The lenasialivestock.co.za webmaster has now provided clarity in writing and request that the original Meatmaster Sheep entry of Mr Malanot and its information be restored to the Meatmaster wikipedia page as Mr Justice Malanot is the original source of the Wikipedia Meatmaster sheep overview information.

A copy of the webmasters email is posted below From: SNS Designs @ snsdesigns.co. za Sent: 01 September 2014 12:15 PM To: hoofkantoor @ biotechtreelucerne. com Subject: Fwd: Copy Right clear up =Meatmaster Sheep information and Justice Malanot

Good day Mr Malanot

I am the webmaster of www.lenasialivestock.co.za and we have various breed descriptions on the website. I hereby confirm in writing that the information of the Meatmaster sheep comes from the Wikipedia page and that I am not the original source of the information.

I have been contacted by Mr Justice Malanot, the South African moderator of the Meatmaster Sheep page and a Wikipedia Editor. It appears the fact that I put up a copyright sign for the design of the lenasia website has caused a Wikipedia editor called Justlettersandnumbers to lodge a copyright dispute against Mr Justice Malanot and caused the Wikipedia Meatmaster Sheep page to be deleted.

Kindly resolve this dispute correctly by restoring the original Meatmaster sheep entry that MrMalanot and the Meatmaster Sheep group contributed. I am not the original of the work but had simply copied and pasted the very good informative Meatmaster Wikipedia entry and used it on the Lenasia livestock page. Apologies for any inconvenience caused

Sincerely

Ebrahim Khan 082 922 6242 l 071 609 1460 info@snsdesigns.co.za

From: info@snsdesigns.co.za [1] Sent: 01 September 2014 12:20 PM To: Head Office Biotech Tree Lucerne Subject: Re: Copy Right clear up =Meatmaster Sheep information and Justice Malanot

Pleasure

I'm busy rebuilding the website and will include that information was taken from wikipedia to avoid any further implications.

Warm regards Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ________________________________________ From: "Head Office Biotech Tree Lucerne" <hoofkantoor @ biotechtreelucerne. com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:17:33 +0200 To: 'SNS Designs'<info @ snsdesigns. co.za> Subject: RE: Copy Right clear up =Meatmaster Sheep information and Justice Malanot

Tnx

for further background details on the talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Justice_Malanot#August_2014

Parties' agreement to mediation

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1. Agree. Justice Malanot (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

This section should only be edited by a mediator. The Mediation Committee's representative will indicate in due course whether the request is accepted (meaning a mediator will be assigned) or rejected (meaning you will have to try a different type of dispute resolution). If the mediator asks you a question in this section, you may edit here.

• Recommend rejection: No acceptance by opposing parties. Moreover, probably ought to go to lower-level dispute resolution first. — TransporterMan (TALK) 13:22, 26 September 2014 (UTC) (Committee member)
• Reject. After examination, there has been no extensive discussion of this matter at a talk page and, thus, prerequisite to mediation #4 has not been satisfied. Frankly, this appears to be more of a help request than a request for dispute resolution and I would recommend that the filing editor click here for probable guidance on how to proceed. For the Mediation Committee. — TransporterMan (TALK) 16:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)