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Cousin musicals

Both the 1988 movie Oliver and Company and the stage musical Oliver! are derived from the novel Oliver Twist. Do you know lots of cousin musicals?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean by cousin musical? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I mean different musicals that are based on the same story but that diverged. I gave an example. Georgia guy (talk) 01:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

This is mainly going to be famous works that are in the public domain. The most obvious example is The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, which has had many musical adaptations, including four that were highly successful: The Wizard of Oz (1902 musical), The Wizard of Oz, The Wiz, and Wicked (musical), although the last of these was really an adaptation of a derivative novel. There have also been others, see Adaptations of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. For another example, see Adaptations of The Phantom of the Opera. John M Baker (talk) 03:47, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

List of films based on Romeo and Juliet lists:

• West Side Story (1961); musical set in 1950s New York City, where a member of a local gang falls in love with the sister of the leader of a rival gang; directed by Robert Wise and Jerome Robbins (USA)
• Roméo & Juliette, de la haine à l'amour (2002); TV version of Gérard Presgurvic's 2001 musical adaptation of the play; directed by Redha and Gilles Amado (France)
• Rockin' Romeo & Juliet (2006); musical film in which Romeo is a modern rock star wooing Juliet with his singing ability; directed by David McGaw (USA)

Adaptations of A Christmas Carol lists:

• A Christmas Carol (1981), a musical adaptation with music by Michel Legrand and a book and lyrics by Sheldon Harnick which premiered in 1982 at the Hartman Theatre, Stamford, Connecticut. The show was workshopped as a tour in 1981.
• Scrooge: The Musical (1992), a British stage musical adapted from the 1970 film and starring Anthony Newley.
• A Christmas Carol: The Musical (1994), a Broadway musical adaptation with music by Alan Menken and lyrics by Lynn Ahrens, ran at The Theatre at Madison Square Garden, New York City yearly until 2003. Starring as "Scrooge" were Walter Charles (1994), Terrence Mann (1995), Tony Randall (1996), Hal Linden and Roddy McDowall (alternating) (1997), Roger Daltrey (1998), Tony Roberts (1999), Frank Langella (2000), Tim Curry (2001), F. Murray Abraham (2002) and Jim Dale (2003). The 2004 television version of the musical starred Kelsey Grammer as "Scrooge".
• A Christmas Carol: The Traditional Story with Modern Music (2005), a musical adaptation with music and lyrics by Matt Corriel and book by Erica Lipez, premiered at the Foothills Theatre in Worcester, MA in 2005 and is published by Dramatic Publishing Company.
• A Christmas Carol (2008), a stage adaptation by Bryony Lavery with songs by Jason Carr, was written for the Chichester Youth Theatre and performed at Chichester Festival Theatre for Christmas 2008 and 2015. This adaptation was also performed by Birmingham Repertory Theatre for Christmas 2009 (with Peter Polycarpou as Scrooge, Hadley Fraser as Bob Cratchit and Rosalie Craig as Mrs Cratchit) and 2013 and the West Yorkshire Playhouse for Christmas 2010 (with Phillip Whitchurch as Scrooge).
• A Christmas Carol (2010), a musical stage adaptation by Bruce Greer and Keith Ferguson that premiered in Carrollton, Texas, in December 2010.
• A Christmas Carol (2012), a musical adaptation with book and lyrics by Ben Horslen and John Risebero and music by Christopher Peake and Nick Barstow, first performed by Antic Disposition in Middle Temple Hall, London, in December 2012 and revived in 2014, 2015, 2017 and 2019. A cast recording featuring Brian Blessed as The Ghost of Christmas Present was released in 2019.

and many more...

AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 10:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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References AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 13:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Could you be a little more explicit about what makes your example "cousins" rather than just two derivative works? Other respondents have given other examples of things based on other things and such a list would go on and on as long as people care to respond. Is that what you're looking for? Like, how is "Oliver and Company" and "Oliver!" different than any two adaptations of, say, Alice in Wonderland or Robin Hood? Matt Deres (talk) 20:26, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Also Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

The Sound of Music was based on Maria von Trapp's memoirs. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Well, sort of. It (the 1959 musical, not the derived 1965 movie) was based on a fictionalised German movie of 1956 (and its 1958 sequel), based on von Trapp's 1949 memoirs. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.211.243 (talk) 09:15, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Does Odie still have his own article?

Hi. I was wondering if Odie still has his own article? I remember him having an article back then. Please let me know. Thank You. 2605:B100:14A:9E08:514F:EF1E:75E0:8084 (talk) 21:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

It was merged into List of Garfield characters about a year ago. The deletion discussion is here. The last version of the Odie article before it got merged is here. --Viennese Waltz 21:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Does Dr. Wily still have his own article?

Hi. I was wondering if Dr. Wily still has his own article? I remember him having an article back then. Please let me know. Thank You. 2605:B100:14A:9E08:514F:EF1E:75E0:8084 (talk) 21:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

It was merged into List of Mega Man characters about a year ago. The last version of the article before it got merged is here. --Viennese Waltz 21:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

The Hilda (TV Series) article is too large to be rated Start-class

Hi. I would like to let you know that the Hilda (TV Series) article is too large to be rated Start-class and should be at a higher rating instead. What rating do you think it should be at? Please let me know. Thank You. 2605:B100:14A:9E08:514F:EF1E:75E0:8084 (talk) 21:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Be WP:BOLD. Also, questions about using Wikipedia are better placed at the WP:Help Desk. Matt Deres (talk) 23:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

It sounds weird, but we can apparently rate our own work: Generally speaking, all editors, including editors who have written or improved an article, are encouraged to boldly set any quality rating that they believe is appropriate, except for the GA, FA, and A-class ratings. I'm tempted to create some new classes, eg League 3 footballer-class, Villages in Iran pop. < 125-class, Minute sea snail-class, but hey... MinorProphet (talk) 20:16, 28 November 2024 (UTC)