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[edit]Recognize this comic book issue? (Probably Batman)
[edit]A guy who was able to command rats kept several old men as prisoners in the sewers, they looked like homeless people, he fed them rats. Then came the superhero (probably Batman) and after a short battle, which I think consisted of the villain setting the rats on him and running, the men were freed.
193.224.66.230 (talk) 13:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sounds like Ratboy from Batman Beyond/Ratcatcher (comics) or Detective Comics #585 (April 1988)- see List of Batman Beyond characters also. --S.G.(GH) ping! 14:02, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Assassin Lady in Munich
[edit]Is the naked lady who gets shot full of holes in Spielberg's Munich a historical figure? 205.156.136.229 (talk) 16:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- No. See Munich massacre#List of fatalities. Tevildo (talk) 20:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- Her death in the film is not part of the Munich massacre, therefore I don't belive your link is helpful. 205.156.136.229 (talk) 21:52, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- I can confirm that the link is not helpful. The woman that the OP is talking about is hired to track down and kill a member of the Israeli hit squad that the movie follows. She is an assassin who plays the part of a prostitute to get one of the men alone in his room. She kills him there and then is eventually tracked down by the rest of the squad who then kill her. As for the original question, I'm sorry I don't have an answer for you. I like the movie but don't know much about the accuracy of that portion of the story. Dismas|(talk) 04:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- An article in The Irish Times, "Massacre in Munich," 21 Jan. 2006, says "One of the Mossad agents in Spielberg's film is lured to his death by an attractive Dutch prostitute. In real life, an Israeli woman unwittingly assisted in the killing of her colleagues because she fell for Abu Daoud's "Brazilian" charm and good looks." An opinion piece in the same paper, dated 16 Jan. 2006 says "The only true part of the story is the few minutes spent on the actual massacre. The rest is invention, as Spielberg delicately puts it in the opening credits, 'inspired by real events'....By real events? Rubbish. Inspired by Tony Kushner's belief (he co-wrote the screenplay) that the founding of Israel was a "historical, moral, political calamity" for the Jewish people.But the most shocking Israeli brutality involves the Dutch prostitute - apolitical, beautiful, pathetic - shot to death (naked, of course) by the now half-crazed Israelis settling private business. The Israeli way, I suppose." An article in Narrative, "Keeping Company In Hollywood: Ethical Issues In Nonfiction Film," by David Richter, May 2007, says that the film faithfully follows George Jonas' book Vengeange, and that the credibility of the book has been questioned, but says nothing that I can see about the character in question. Hope this gives some more information to work with toward finding an answer --some jerk on the Internet (talk) 14:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- Found a little more: from The Observer, 26 Dec. 2005, "The point is that Ms. Croze’s character seems to have been inserted into the film gratuitously to supply a tiny bit of sensationalism into proceedings that are otherwise monotonously full of gloom and self-doubt." Another article in Slate, 23 Dec. 2005, doesn't address the Jeanette character directly but does question the accuracy of the film generally. --some jerk on the Internet (talk) 17:58, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- An article in The Irish Times, "Massacre in Munich," 21 Jan. 2006, says "One of the Mossad agents in Spielberg's film is lured to his death by an attractive Dutch prostitute. In real life, an Israeli woman unwittingly assisted in the killing of her colleagues because she fell for Abu Daoud's "Brazilian" charm and good looks." An opinion piece in the same paper, dated 16 Jan. 2006 says "The only true part of the story is the few minutes spent on the actual massacre. The rest is invention, as Spielberg delicately puts it in the opening credits, 'inspired by real events'....By real events? Rubbish. Inspired by Tony Kushner's belief (he co-wrote the screenplay) that the founding of Israel was a "historical, moral, political calamity" for the Jewish people.But the most shocking Israeli brutality involves the Dutch prostitute - apolitical, beautiful, pathetic - shot to death (naked, of course) by the now half-crazed Israelis settling private business. The Israeli way, I suppose." An article in Narrative, "Keeping Company In Hollywood: Ethical Issues In Nonfiction Film," by David Richter, May 2007, says that the film faithfully follows George Jonas' book Vengeange, and that the credibility of the book has been questioned, but says nothing that I can see about the character in question. Hope this gives some more information to work with toward finding an answer --some jerk on the Internet (talk) 14:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- I can confirm that the link is not helpful. The woman that the OP is talking about is hired to track down and kill a member of the Israeli hit squad that the movie follows. She is an assassin who plays the part of a prostitute to get one of the men alone in his room. She kills him there and then is eventually tracked down by the rest of the squad who then kill her. As for the original question, I'm sorry I don't have an answer for you. I like the movie but don't know much about the accuracy of that portion of the story. Dismas|(talk) 04:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- Her death in the film is not part of the Munich massacre, therefore I don't belive your link is helpful. 205.156.136.229 (talk) 21:52, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Name of song from Ken Burns' "The War"
[edit]There is a song that plays somewhere in the middle of Ken Burns' documentary "The War" that is not part of the official soundtrack. I would really like to know if it is some kind of traditional melody and if there are any rcordings available, so if anyone knows the name of this song, I would really appreciate your help. It is used for a montage of fighter jets in the sky and followed by the sentence "I wanted to fly fighters" I think. Right before, an African American soldier talks about being stationed in Hawaii (or somewhere in the Pacific?). Thanks! 91.2.107.75 (talk) 18:48, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- It's a huge help if you can name the episode and give the time signature in minutes and seconds at which this occurs. μηδείς (talk) 23:22, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
I watched the German version which is divided differently, but I'm pretty sure it's from part 3 of the original version.80.135.152.182 (talk) 17:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)