Wikipedia:Picture peer review/Munidopsis polymorpha

Munidopsis polymorpha

These crabs reside underwater in the Jameos Del Agua making it very difficult to get a good shot. It's been cropped to remove the flash reflection as much as I could. Could anything be done to improve it more?

Articles this image appears in: Munidopsis polymorpha

Creator: Martyx

Suggested by: martyx tkctgy 15:18, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I'm sorry, I don't think this picture has FP potential. I fully understand it's a very hard thing to take a photo of, maybe you could consider Valued Images at commons. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your comments. Can I ask specifically why this isn't of FP potential? Is there anything I could have to improve the shot? I guess the article is only a stub which also doesn't help matters. martyx tkctgy 13:28, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Some possible reasons. Resolution is too small - yes it's over the 1000px requirement, but realistically the subject is only a small part in the centre of the image, meaning the subject itself is well below requirements. Focus on the beastie just isn't good enough, meaning it lacks details. For a comparison go to say Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects and open some of those images up fullsize (and I mean not just image page size) - compare the quality, details, and sharpness. Background is pretty messy looking; it would have been better on the centre of the rock, not over the join. The composition issue you could certainly fix by reshooting, but realistically (and I don't mean to sound too negative) you're not going to get a macro FP with that camera. I would say any such FP in probably at least the last five years would have been taken with a DSLR, and mostly with specialised macro lenses and usually off camera flashes. In general people would be shooting with say a minimum of $2000 of equipment; you can't match that with a little compact camera. Granted there would be some considerations given to it being underwater (I think that's what you've suggested), but that wouldn't mitigate enough. Thanks for your contributions though. --jjron (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. If I get a chance to revisit Lanzarote in the near future I will try to take another shot of these crabs. The issues posed are the fact they are underwater, blind, and typically immobile. The other issue being the very limited access to take photos (avoid the other tourists). I think if I were to get any closer my camera would have been under the water! I guess this was more of a lucky shot rather than anything particularly special! And whilst not $2000 the Canon PowerShot SX1 IS is by no means compact! In this shot I did also use a separate flash mounted to the hot shoe. martyx tkctgy 15:10, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I probably should have said above, but voters tend to prefer 'perfect' specimens. This guy's got one claw pointing down, meaning you can't really see it, and his legs are all over the place, rather than being roughly symmetrical (and I'm not sure, but is he missing a leg?). So if you get a chance to reshoot perhaps keep that in mind (given they're pretty immobile, it's not possible to nudge them a bit into position is it?), but yeah, being underwater is going to make it hard. --jjron (talk) 12:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to the position of the claw. Resolution meets minimum requirement. I like the image but it has some problems with what look like shadows or reflections, so it's not quite FP, but you certainly could try for VP on Commons. Pine _{(was GreenPine)} ^talk 21:28, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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