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April 25

SPCFI

i want to post a comprehensive article or info about our school so that it will appear everytime they will search for it..

how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SPCFI (talk • contribs) 02:12, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

First, determine if your school is notable, by reading WP:ORG. If it is, then you can submit a request at WP:RA. You should avoid creating the article yourself, do the the conflict of interest. Also, I left a note on your talk page, since your username appears to not be within Wikipedia rules. RudolfRed (talk) 03:06, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Fernanda Romero - biased article

Dear Wikipedia, its of our interest to remove the IMMIGRATION ISSUES section under the Fernanda Romero article. Because these issues were already resolved and the case was a MISTRAIL http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20015707-504083.html http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/06/fernanda-romero-markus-klinko-michael-ball-rock-and-republic/ we have the evidence to support these facts. We suspect someone is trying to hold on to false accusations and to these scheme. We believe that wikipedia should be objective and neutral and not permit these types of acusations and sensationalism articles other wise it becomes biased and a form of online false public record where everybody is innocent until proven gulty. These claimss are based on bad energy and envy and they should be removed. please dont hesitate to email me if u need further information on the case, and we appreciate you letting us remove this section.

thank you

Abie Toiber (Personal manager Fernanda Romero) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abietoiber (talk • contribs) 02:50, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The place to discuss potential changes is Talk:Fernanda Romero. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Please note that your interests and the interests of Wikipedia are not necessarily compatible, see the Conflict of interest guide. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Masking an entry on my own behalf

I am a past Prof/Dir of Creatve Writing for Ohio University, seven books out another on the way. I have won national awards and think I should have a professional biography on Wikipedia. How do I do that? Aloha, Paul Nelson (there are other Paul Nelsons)72.130.229.142 (talk) 04:30, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Please note that users are discouraged from writing autobiographies as that may lead to a conflict of interest. However, I can help write you an article if you can demonstrate that you meet the notability guidelines for academics. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:45, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Humble Request

I am writing about something really concerning on your Soka Gakkai Page. Link: Soka Gakkai

The issue I want to bring up has nothing to do with the text content, but with the photo content.

Before I jump in, I just want to say I have been an SGI member since I was 16.

Under the "Object of Devotion Section" there is a photo of the Gohonzon. Only thing is, it is not looked well upon to take photos of it.

It might sound cooky, but it is a special meditation tool that is supposed to represent your life. To show it is similar to letting someone see you naked.

I would be happy to write a really detailed explanation of it want it means and draw it out with words. I am a poetry writer so painting pictures with words is not a foreign thing to me.

Thank you.

Shawnee M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.252.137 (talk) 05:04, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in our project here, please see WP:NOTCENSORED for more information. Tiggerjay (talk) 06:55, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Shawnee, I feel you may understand the response above better if you know some of its background. What I am going to say is entirely my own opinion, it is not supported by Wikipedia policy, and is in no way "official".

Your request seems to me entirely reasonable. Indeed, as I cannot read Japanese, I would prefer to read a detailed description of the Gohonzon, rather than see a picture of it. However, in the past Wikipedia has received requests from Muslims, many of them less politely expressed than yours, demanding that depictions of the prophet Muhammad be removed. After much discussion, it was decided to ignore these requests. Wikipedia still has depictions of Muhammad, with the justification that "Wikipedia is not censored". The same logic is likely to be applied to your request. Maproom (talk) 13:21, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Cite Error

I'm having a hard time with my edits for the page about Patricia DeCoursey. It keeps giving me errors, and I've tried to fix the mistakes to no avail. Please help me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachelhoffman815 (talk • contribs) 05:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Seems resolved [1], [2], [3] --CiaPan (talk) 06:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

help

CAN I ABLE TO PRODUCE MY PROJECT ABOUT ONE MOUNTAIN?--Madhanlee play (talk) 05:19, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to Wikipedia!
If you mean writing a new article on Wikipedia then of course you can – anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. However check carefully if it is already described, it's much easier for beginners to can add some contents to existing pages than to write new page from scratch.
Before you decide to make new page I would encourage you to read Wikipedia:Your first article first, to know how to write an article. Also see Wikipedia:Notability to find out if the mountain should be described here. --CiaPan (talk) 06:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

inappropriate language for a non-age restricted website

John Terry

I was quite surprised to see the C word and F word very public and not even censored with an *. I may be more broad minded than most, but still I think it would be appropriate for this to show some degree of censorship — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.123.8 (talk) 06:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:NOTCENSORED -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:29, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Stupendous contradiction - deliberation is highly suspected.

Hello,

I was just going through the WikiPedia page on Indian Mujahideen, an alleged terrorist outfit of which there are lots of contention. The way some series of incents were attributed to them and later found it to be perpetrated by somebody else rendered me to find out information about them as to whether it's a media baby.

Nevertheless, Indian Mujahideen#Suspects and arrests shows that the blasts at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad was plotted by IM which was later proven to be otherwise. The article on WikiPedia Mecca Masjid bombing itself shows that it was perpetrated by some other outfit. Neither would I want to believe that all these came up fortuitously. There are enough reasons to believe that it's part of a larger conspiracy.

I am a Muslim who go by the books. Islam strongly denounce any sort of violence. You may be surprised to know what Qur'an suggested how to deal with blasphemers; just to go away from the discussion and get back in only once it's stopped.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.242.161.160 (talk) 06:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Please discuss article concerns on the talk page for that article. RudolfRed (talk) 06:59, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Mr. Shadow wikipedia page

I distinctly remember there being a page for a rapper known as mr. Shadow and now the search term " mr. Shadow" redirects to a page for the film "the fifth element" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.113.174 (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The history of the Mr. Shadow page shows that it was created as a redirect to The Fifth Element and except for a few instances of vandalism never had any other content. Are you sure of the exact title of the article about the rapper? Even "minor" differences such as capital letters and punctuation would cause it to link to a different page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:07, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

We've got a DJ Shadow, but of course he's not exactly a rapper as such. That's the only artist I can think of that would come close, name-wise. Good luck. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 13:39, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Great Mosque of Aleppo

The minaret of the Umayyad Great Mosque of Aleppo was tragically destroyed yesterday in the Syrian civil war. Both parts are blaming each other (naturally). We have a nice picture of the mosque w/minaret on commons; can we please get this in the "news" section on the front page? I am not familiar with the procedure for this. Several editors are also mixing it up and adding it to Umayyad Mosque, which is in Damascus, and which has not been damaged. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 09:50, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

If it meets WP:ITN#Criteria, then nominate it at WP:ITN/C --Ushau97 (talk) 11:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, will try that. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 15:16, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Updating content on a page

Hi

I am trying to upgrade the content on my bosses page for him with content from our website. It keeps getting taken off. I have reference that it is from our webpage but it still coming up with an error. What am I doing wrong please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.207.234 (talk) 11:18, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I just skimmed the content that you're trying to add to the article for James Fanshawe and see two glaring problems with it and then a concern. For one, it's much too promotional in tone. An encyclopedia entry should be neutral in its wording. We're not here to advertise for someone, nor to deride them, but tell a balanced account of their life and work. Second, if you're getting this directly from your company's web site, then there are copyright concerns to be dealt with. Just copying direct from the site is copyright infringement and is illegal. And lastly, editing of articles on a topic that you have a financial connection to is not advised. You have a conflict of interest. It's best to bring up concerns that you have with the article on the article's talk page. The relevant policies and guidelines are here: WP:TONE, WP:NPOV, WP:COPYVIO, and WP:COI. Dismas|^(talk) 13:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

American Novelists

I am rather confused and offended that Wikipedia has decided that women are no longer going to be included on the "American Novelists" page—that they are being moved to a new category: American Women Novelists. As an American woman and soon-to-be-published novelist, I would consider any American-born woman who writes a novel to be, by its very definition, an American novelist. That the writer happens to be a woman is incidental.

Were there to be two categories—American Women novelists and American Men Novelists—it would be more logistically acceptable. However, this does not seem to be the case, and in this day and age, that is extraordinarily sexist. As a donor to Wikipedia, I expect more from this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbndonahue (talk • contribs) 12:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The relevant discussion is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 April 24#Category:American women novelists. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Mr. Wales if very upset about it on his talk page as well.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Please check Evelyn Mase

The biography of Nelson Mandela's first wife, Evelyn Mase, seems to me to be written in a rather unusual style or tone. I can't quite put my finger on it but the language just seems "a bit off". I'm also not entirely convinced that she is in fact independently Notable, she is known only as Mandela's first wife and they were divorced before even he became notable. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:37, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

It appears that just a few moments after you posted here, Mdann52 (talk · contribs) proposed the article be deleted for notability reasons. Depending on the outcome of that, we can then address the style issues, but you could reach out over at WP:COPYEDITORS for assistance with that page. Tiggerjay (talk) 14:50, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The PROD was removed so now I've sent it to AFD. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:45, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I have left a comment on the talk page of the user who removed the PROD because I believe it was done in bad form. Now that it is in AfD, we can let that process take place. I will go ahead and place my own comments on the AfD regarding this. Tiggerjay (talk) 18:39, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Actually there is nothing wrong with simply removing a PROD, no "form" is required. Removing a PROD is how an editor makes it known that they do not agree with the proposal - any objection cancels a PROD, the next step is a formal AFD discussion. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion - removing delete tag after references have been added to article/biography

An article I created for a friend was flagged for deletion because it was a bio and did not have references. I have now added references, but do not know how to remove DELETION TAGS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.2.132 (talk) 14:18, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

This article: Danny Brown- producer-engineer-musician? It seems the only references you added were Wikipedia articles, which cannot be used as sources on Wikipedia. You'll need to find some reliably published independent sources. Magazine articles, news websites etc. Яehevkor ✉ 14:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You need to read Wikipedia's guidance on reliable sources. Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference, so your edits were reverted. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Uploading images and embedding them in pages

I'm thinking of uploading screen shots of Basic Search, Special Search, and Advanced Search boxes for Help:Search. Where would I find a description of the whole process (preferred image size, file size limits, uploading, and suggested procedure (or templates) for embedding them in the article page? LittleBen (talk) 14:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

There is a Manual of Style regarding images at MOS:IMAGES and for technical how-to of uploading see WP:UPIMAGE and for formatting on page at WP:PICTiggerjay (talk) 14:45, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• Many thanks for your prompt and very helpful answer. LittleBen (talk) 17:32, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

INFO REQUIRED

HI IM SIMMO HOW CAN I FIND THE DIRECTORS OF UNITED ARAB AIRLINES IN DUBIA? I MEET A FRIEND AND LOST HIS DETAILS CAN YOU HELP PLEASE? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.219.213 (talk) 14:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

This page is for help editing Wikipedia. Try the Reference Desk and stop SHOUTING. Good luck ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 15:04, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Technical help?

I am currently experiencing a problem when trying to access other users' talk pages, specifically (I have no problems accessing or editing articles, article talk pages, project talk pages etc). But when I click a link to another user's page, although it appears briefly, it immediately disappears and becomes a blank screen (white) while the cursor becomes a spinning circle. This continues indefinely. However, when I am logged out, there are no such issues which leads me to suspect this is not a problem with my computer (I could be wrong of course, I'm not very knowledgable in that department). Any ideas/suggestions?--Ykraps (talk) 16:16, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Try disabling "WikiLove" in your preferences. There's a bug report about this at the Village Pump. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

That appears to have done the trick! Thank you--Ykraps (talk) 18:39, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

And thanks from me, too. I came here with the same complaint. The fix works. Hordaland (talk) 20:47, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Daniel Silva

I recently purchased my first Daniel Silva book, read the author bio and discovered he is the son of my colleague at Livingston High School in Livingston, California, Richard Silva,now deceased. Daniel is the oldest of three adopted children of Richard "Dick" Silva and his wife.Dick always called him Danny.His brother's name is Jamie and his sister's name is Mary.I reserached Daniel Silva on the internet and found no reference to his parents, his siblings or his over 20 years in the San Joaquin Valley town of Merced. I know Daniel "Danny" was reared in a devoutly Catholic home. Dick knew the Mass in Latin. When you read about Daniel Silva you think he is a New York Jewish boy.His roots in California are deep and he must have converted sometime along the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.62.245.206 (talk) 16:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

You should mention this at Talk:Daniel Silva (novelist), which is where improvements to that article are discussed. You should know, however, that we can't add material based on personal knowledge, as everything has to be supported by reliable independent sources. Rojomoke (talk) 17:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Fuzzy math formulas

I wrote the following request to the email help and received a reply suggesting that I actually ask here. Can anyone tell me why most math formulas are now fuzzy on Wikipedia, and suggest a workaround to fix this? As more examples of the problem, every formula on this page shows as fuzzy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_integrals_of_logarithmic_functions I don't have any more examples of math formulas that display clearly, just the one below.

> Hi,
> 
> On the page 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explicit_formula
> there are mathematical formulas.  Most of them display as fuzzy
> unreadable images in my version 20 firefox on Fedora 17, a linux flavor.
> But there is one that displays perfectly, this one
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/e/9/8e966e384e09d7dcc010ddf7499d0072.png
> and this is the text associated with it
> f(x) =\pi(x)+\frac{1}{2}\pi(x^{1/2})+\frac{1}{3}\pi(x^{1/3})+\cdots
> The one above it is fuzzy,
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/0/8/008bf5b4b94a09aaa95fad7381526b50.png
> and this is the text associated with it.
> \pi_0(x) = \frac{1}{2} \lim_{h\to 0} (\pi(x+h) + \pi(x-h)).
> 
> Almost all of the math formulas on that page and the rest of wikipedia
> display as unreadably fuzzy in firefox.  They never used to.  I'm not
> sure when it started.  Even when I download them and use a picture
> viewing program to view them, they are still fuzzy, and they show with
> a checkerboard background.  When I enlarge them to fit the screen, I
> can then read them even though they are fuzzy, but there doesn't seem to
> be a size that makes them clear, larger or smaller.
> 
> I can see no difference between the information about the images that
> work and don't, but I am not an expert in graphics, so I don't know what
> is causing this poor display.
> 
> Just thought I'd point it out in case it is an inadvertent mistake, and
> easily fixed.
> 
> Thanks.  

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.124.107.182 (talk) 16:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• I have no problem with the latest Firefox (20.x) on Windows 7. Just a few quick ideas off the top of my head: clicking on "edit" for that page shows a mathematical formula description language that may well be W3C MathML. Quite probably the browser uses symbol fonts to display symbols like the integral symbol. The problem could be that (1) you are using an old version of Firefox that does not support MathML so well, (2) the symbol font in your computer is missing or damaged, or (3) you have changed the default font settings in the browser. Does that help? LittleBen (talk) 17:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Another possibility: Windows has (or had) a setting which, if enabled, makes characters in some fonts look blurred or out of focus. Maproom (talk) 19:43, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

What you say would make sense if *all* the formulas were fuzzy. But there is one that isn't fuzzy. The same integral sign that is fuzzy in the formula above is clear and crisp in the one that displays. I would agree that it was a missing font, or some incorrect setting in the browser, if every formula was the same. The windows suggestion probably doesn't apply since I'm using linux, and the Firefox is 20, so also probably not the issue. I'll keep looking. Thanks for trying to help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.124.101.38 (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

(Windows has ClearType, and the Mac has something similar). But maybe the problem is that you don't have the usual scalable symbol fonts that Firefox is looking for, and so Firefox is scaling up a bitmap font. You could do a Google site: search of the Mozilla Help forums, I found very useful information about how to recover a Windows 7 shadow copy backup of the Firefox session file (that stores the database of tabs and tab groups) there. LittleBen (talk) 03:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

This resolved the problem. When I filter firefox in about:config for mathfont, it has a string of fonts that it can use. I have most of those installed, in particular stix and asana math. Just in case, I downloaded the mathML font zip from mozilla, and installed it according to their instructions. Firefox still doesn't display formulas properly. I fired up the midori browser, and it works perfectly. As does the Seamonkey browser. So, this is strictly a configuration issue in Firefox on my system alone, since I seem to be the only one having this problem. Daunting, since firefox is almost as complex as emacs. :-) But it's clear that it isn't a problem of Wikipedia. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.124.101.38 (talk) 08:35, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

There are three options at Preferences → Appearance → Math. --  Gadget850 ^talk 12:02, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion about videos

I have a? Have any of your people ever though of adding videos if some of the songs, not complete song videos, or videos of the actors, politicians, or professional in all aspect of life around the world? I think it would be nice to hear as well as read about the people of the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.68.210 (talk) 17:22, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

In pracically all cases the videos would be copyright violations, a serious offence in the United States where the Wikimedia Foundation is a registered non-profit company. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:44, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

We do, however, very strongly encourage people to create their own videos (for instance, of a notable park or a traditional dance) and upload them to the Wikimedia Commons. Students at Alverno College in Milwaukee, Wisconsin have made something of a specialty of this, and their videos are in use globally throughout Wikimedia projects. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

jewish actors

how did you leave out KIRK & MICHAEL DOUGLAS?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.231.231 (talk) 19:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia has articles on Kirk Douglas and Michael Douglas, both actors. Are these the men you mean? Maproom (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I believe the OP is referring to Category:Jewish actors which does not list either Douglas. OP, in order for someone to be listed in many of the categories related to religion, they must self identify as being part of that religion. In the case of Michael, his article states, "Douglas... has declared no religious affiliation". And Kirk is listed in Category:Jewish American actors which is categorized under the parent category of Jewish actors. We don't list items in the parent category if they are in a sub-category already. Dismas|^(talk) 19:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Jewish can refer either to ethnicity or religion. Since the category is a subcategory of Category:Actors by ethnicity, then the former seems to apply here. On the other hand, it's also part of WP:Judaism, which would suggest the latter. MChesterMC (talk) 15:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Error in "How to live" article

Resolved

I was reading the article about Sarah Bakewell and I found an error when I try to follow the link to her book "How to live". It link on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Live_on_24_Hours_a_Day but it should link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Live_%28novel%29

I don't know how to change this because there is a redirection on the string "How to live". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.243.242.13 (talk) 20:44, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Fixed Tiggerjay (talk) 20:53, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Bleeding Rainbow photo in infobox

Hello,

I'm working on the wikipedia article for Bleeding Rainbow, though I can't seem to figure out how to get the image to display in the infobox. I'm not sure if I have the template right or what, but what is certain is that it's not working. Here's the link, for reference:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Rainbow

Thanks,

-- OMM (Kanine Records) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayqcee (talk • contribs) 20:57, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I think I fixed it.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Looks like it. When you are putting images in to infoboxes, you only need to have the name of the file, not a full link to it. Otherwise, it will just show a link to the picture rather than the picture itself. Uhhlive (talk) 21:05, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

You can't say that about all infoboxes. Let's say that you want "File:Example.jpg" to display in multiple infoboxes. Some will require you to type Example.jpg; some will require File:Example.jpg, and some will require [[File:Example.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Caption]]. As a result, when you're confident that you have the right filename, just play around with the filename; you'll probably get it right before long. Nyttend (talk) 04:25, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Threshold of WP:ORIGINALSYN: Vague dates

Regarding vagueness of dates. Let's say a source says: "In 2013, his creativity blossomed. On January 10, he published his first creation, which was two years in the making, which was only announced three months prior to its publication."

Would this be synthesis? "He began the creation in 2011. Its existence was made public in October 2012. It was published on January 10, 2013." I would not have a source that specifically stated the 2011 or the 2012 dates.

Thanks! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 21:36, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

This is a situation where WP:CALC is applicable. Nobody's going to dispute that 2013 - 2 = 2011 or that October is three months before January. Nyttend (talk) 04:22, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

However, in this case they may dispute that the "2 years" was intended to be that accurate, especially since if it was in fact 2 years and 11 days in the making, then the project was started at the end of 2010, not in 2011. MChesterMC (talk) 15:43, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes I can't say for sure which month something happened in because of this situation. What if the announcement was in late September?— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:17, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Changing a username

How may I change my existing user name to something new? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courthouse2256 (talk • contribs) 21:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes. See WP:UNC. But, since you have made no edits other than this request, just create a new account with your preferred name. RudolfRed (talk) 22:48, 25 April 2013 (UTC)