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March 14

How can a semi protect an article?

Good morning,

I just read the protection policies and I still don't understand who decides about protecting an article. Can I as the creator of the article request to put some kind of protection to it? What would be the procedure to get my article protected?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.167.188 (talk) 00:22, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The only people who can protect an article are admins. TO protect an article there needs to be some persistent vandalism on the article. If the article in question has had persistent vandalism then you can request protection on WP:RPP. If you need more help let me know. GB fan (talk) 00:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You should also be aware it is not your article. Once you submit it, anyone is usually free to edit it, see Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. Rehevkor ✉ 00:31, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Why are most images obfuscasted with black when saving or copying?

I am a teacher and like to use some of the images and graphics in Wikipedia for educational presentations. But even if I copy GNU licensed images they mostly turn out black or with black background when selecting "Copy Image" or "Save Image As..." as if a deliberate attempt was made to make it difficult to grab images of Wikipedia that way. I then need to make screen dumps and crop the images from these, a lengthy process. Why is this done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.239.35 (talk) 00:35, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

That is strange, even for copyrighted/fair use images there is no mechanism to stop them from being copied/grabbed as far as I know. The problem could be on your end. Can you give an example of the image you are trying to copy? What browser and OS are you using? Hopefully other contributors familiar with this and similar issue will chime in. Rehevkor ✉ 00:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I haven't heard of this problem before. It's definitely something on your end and not Wikipedia. Perhaps the images you have problems with are in a format that your browser can display but not the software you use to view them after saving. Try right clicking on a saved image and choose to open it with your browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:32, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I get this when I select an image on any web page, right click and copy image, then paste into an editor. The image background comes out black. Saving the image then opening it in the editor always works for me. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:33, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You should be downloading the image from the image information page, not attempting to copy and paste it. When it has downloaded to your PC then you can open it in an image editing application. – ukexpat (talk) 17:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Sacred Geometry

At your article about Sacred Geometry, paragraph about Natural Forms I wish to ad a line : see also Fibonacci Numbers and his ratio of 0.61803398.... I don't have any reference for above completation.Just my knowledge about arithmetic.Thank you. RomulusSI — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomulusSI (talk • contribs) 02:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

It's called the golden ratio. It's already mentioned at Sacred geometry#Art and architecture, in a caption and in the See also section. The article also mentions golden spiral. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:29, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion

How do you delete a profile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeBoneDeGolier (talk • contribs) 02:38, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

It depends what you mean by "a profile". Do you want User:DeBoneDeGolier to be deleted? Only administrators can completely delete a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

If that is what you want, you can put {{db-user}} at the top of the page and an admin will delete the page. Dismas|^(talk) 03:35, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Template Help

Hi, I'm looking for the template for "It has been suggested that this section is to be moved to a new article" or a rather. That would be much appreciated. I can't find it anywhere. G₩PSP090+ 03:39, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

One of the templates on Wikipedia:Splitting may be of use. Nanonic (talk) 04:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Need a disambiguation page for 'CITEC'/'Citec'

Hi.

I have what I hope is a fairly simple question.

I work for a company named CITEC. It's a commercialised business entity that is wholly owned by the State Government of Queensland, Australia, with head offices in Brisbane.

I was looking for a Wikipedia page on our organisation and can't seem to locate one. I would start one myself, however there is already a page up for a *different* company with the same name, "headquartered in Vaasa, Finland, and has offices in Finland, Sweden, the UK, France, Russia and India" (Wikipedia).

I don't know how to create a disambiguation page for the term 'CITEC' so both companies' Wiki pages can co-exist, so I thought I'd ask the Wikipedia help desk to help me get started.

The existing company Wiki page is at:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citec

Their corporate website:

 http://www.citec.com/

The Queensland entity's corporate website is at:

 http://www.publicworks.qld.gov.au/businesslinks/CITEC/Pages/CITEC.aspx

Thanks for any help / referrals you can provide.

Michael Bishop —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.9.185.216 (talk) 03:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You should first read WP:ORG and WP:COI to make sure your employer is notable in the sense of the word we use here, and to understand the potential pitfalls of writing about your employer. Then, you might like to use the article wizard to create a draft in userspace so that it can be readied for release. I suggest, if you get that far, that the article be titled CITEC (Australia) and if it should make it to mainspace (publication) then a hatnote can be added to Citec to make everythng clear.

At any point, please feel free to come back here or to my talk page with questions. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 03:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Why doesn't photo caption show up?

Why doesn't the caption of the photo show up at Fender_Amplifiers#Popular_Fender_amps? Can it be fixed? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 06:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

It does now. - David Biddulph (talk) 06:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought there was no use in using both "thumb" and "150px" (etc). I thought "thumb" set it to your specified thumbnail size whereas the other specifies a certain width. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 16:34, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Resolved

Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

selling van

i habve recentley move and sent reg doc back to dvla the van had mot and failed so i sold it on sunday but i cant fill the doc to send back with byer name and address can u help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.14.64.155 (talk) 09:14, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a question about using Wikipedia? Roger (talk) 09:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

(e/c) I think you should be talking to the DVLA. Their vehicle website is here. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:30, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

XML dump for a single project

I'd like an XML dump of all articles (not talk) in WikiProject Australia (~80k) to do some offline work. How can I do this? Moondyne (talk) 10:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Try this: go to Special:Export, enter "WikiProject Australia articles" in the "Category" box and hit "Add". This gives you a list of talk pages. Copy the list into a text editor, delete the "Talk:" prefix from each line, and copy the amended list back into the Special:Export page. Adjust the final checkboxes as you please, and then hit "Export". This worked for me, though I admit I pasted only the first handful of article names back into the box since I was only experimenting. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:30, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but when I press Add, it only returns the 1st 5000 articles. I need another tool to extract the full 80k+ article names from the category. Moondyne (talk) 00:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Got it. WP:CATSCAN. Moondyne (talk) 02:37, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

to know about a metal

Actually i saw a programm on discovery channel and the programm was all about metal and they uplifted some metal with the help of liquid nitrogen and i forgot the name of the metal and i'm not able to find it on wikipedia or other search engines ...please help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.91.182.250 (talk) 10:07, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "lift"? If you mean levitation, it's possible the programme was describing the Meissner effect. This page is for help using Wikipedia, though; you might get a better answer at the Science reference desk. --Kateshortforbob _talk 11:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps it was the "Os" episode of Fringe? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:31, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Italic title

I am reviewing an article Brentwood Academy v. Tennessee Secondary School Athletic Assn. for GA. I have tried using {{italic title}} and {{italic title|force=true}}, but nothing seems to work. What are we doing wrong? Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 11:55, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I think it was a combination of being managed by {{SCOTUSCase}} AND being >50 characters. I added |italic title=force inside the infobox and it seems to be OK now. Moondyne (talk) 12:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

vinoth

vinoth born in darasuram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinoth789 (talk • contribs) 12:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. Now, can you tell us why you have stated this? If you're advising of an addition or correction to an existing article, you might tell use the name of the article (you can link to it by enclosing the title in double brackets ([[title]]) and explain the reason for your post.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:03, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Books API

Hi,

I would like to write a piece of software that will help users create books from relevant Wikipedia values.

Is there a convenient API to create a book and add titles to it?

Thanks, Benjamin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.68.205.34 (talk) 15:14, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I think you may get a better response to this question at the technical village pump. There's a higher concentration of technically minded people there and they may be able to help you. TNXMan 15:59, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, this software arguably already exists, see Wikipedia:Books. -- Rick Block (talk) 19:04, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Deliver, a WPP Company

This entry was deleted almost a second after I posted it. The content was written and was not pulled directly from any website. can you please let me know why this was deleted? I am new to Wikipedia, but I can't seem to find anything wrong or self-promoting about the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deliver285 (talk • contribs) 15:55, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I can't see the deleted article, but the messages on your talk page explain what has happened and why. You may find the page WP:FAQ/Organizations helpful. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it was promotional. Additionally, I see no reason why it couldn't have been covered under the main WPP article. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:12, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Can you change a page name???

The page i need to rename says "Bert oliva" -his last name isnt capitalized... I wanted to change it but not sure how — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ltothej (talk • contribs) 17:07, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Moved. As noted at the top of the page, there are still issues with the page.Naraht (talk) 17:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Can I create a page for new term that I have personally coined?

As a writer and an advocate, I have begun to use a new term that I have never seen used by others. Can I create a Wikipedia page for that term so that any articles or press exposure it receives will allow them to consult Wikipedia for more information. There are actually several such terms, and they describe, in one case, a historically unprecedented demographic event, and in the other, a school of demographic advocacy that is widely discussed without having a popular label?

I would like to know how to proceed as I am scheduled to appear on three talk radio shows in the next month about this topic, and I will use the words in question during those interviews. I know that Wikipedia uses a verification process, part of which attempts to determine a topic's level of significance. I would very much like to at least take credit for coining the words themselves, and this seems an appropriate venue for documenting, if not my invention of the terms, at least their earliest known use in print.

Please advise. Mjpwow (talk) 18:57, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

In a word, no. Please see Wikipedia:No original research. -- Rick Block (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

And WP:Neologism. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:21, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

A complain

Begin in the name of Allah the beneficent the merciful

Does use of Wikipedia for some one with certain level of Wikipedia-authority gives him/her liberty to insult others?

Pls visit Eraserhead1 talk page. The guy uses extremely harsh tone. He is habitual. Writing some thing for general use carries certain level of personal attachment by the author. A user objecting over it is just a clash of POV. But a person abusing and threatening on someones efforts or POV is wrong. Eraserhead1 should at least be warned if not banned, though his ever long habit of rudeness as apparent from his talk page has already crossed the limits. You may also visit my talk page to be see his tone. i might have made a mistake but that does not mean any person who carries some kind of authority on Wikipedia can go on and insult me.

Your action awaited. Tariq hilal (talk) 19:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)Tariq hilal

Would you be kind enough to link directly to specific instances of these.. whatever they are (you've not been very specific). Is it a direct violation of WP:NPA? If you want action taken against him, here is not the place, this page is where you ask for help using Wikipedia. Rehevkor ✉ 19:20, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The first link should have been User talk:Eraserhead1. The message posted by Eraserhead1 at User talk:Tariq hilal is this diff. I see no insult there. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I would imagine the rudeness on my talk page is: User talk:Eraserhead1#Changes_reverted_in_article_on_Narendra_Modi. The reason I gave a more strongly warning in this case was due to the numerous previous warnings on your talk page, however maybe in this case a slightly weaker warning would have been more appropriate.

As I said about the case with Narendra Modi this information was sourced to the Economist, who usually report stories to a very high standard and they aren't always unsubtle about what they say, given you are Pakistani you are likely to be bias towards your country (who isn't? I certainly am to an extent), but you need to realise that that isn't always how the situation really is.

It is probably fair to say that the Economist is being a little over the top about the security situation in Pakistan, but the list of countries that are more dangerous than Pakistan these days is really a rather short one. While there are several countries the British foreign office advise against all travel (and the British foreign office generally has a reputation for sensible and not alarmist travel advice) the advice given for Pakistan is really rather long and looks really quite serious. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Eraserhead1, thank you for the response. Appreciate the polite change. Certainly no complains against you any more and in fact feeling a bit apologetic as well after reading your reply. Wikipedia is a literary place where POVs might clash but a humble respect to each others POV is compulsory. Also thanks for understanding the POV on Economist. Even one person's changed +ve view of my country against the whole, mostly fake, media world is a big achievement for me.

At this point will also request you to kindly remove the "dangerous" and "threat" portions in your above paras over here giving me another chance to say thank you. Will repeat again that 200 million people living in Pakistan and lot many tourists visiting here is it self a fundamental truth against the media propagandas. We have beaches, hill stations, amusement parks, golf clubs, night life, in-numerous restaurants, big business centers, worlds biggest exporters of cotton, mangoes, oranges, rice, sugar, spices, etc, world record & cup holders in A-level education system, Squash, Cricket, Hockey, etc, people working in NASA, top global Unis, top-posts of fortune 500 companies, etc etc just like every other country of the world in-fact we are probably better off from many countries Alhamdulillah. If you ever plan to visit to Pakistan you are most welcome to contact me. Will show you what real Pakistan is and what really Pakistanis are. Further, Wikipedia.org has been listed as 8th most visited website of Pakistan meaning that people here are not terrorists as projected by international-media but highly literate and seekers of knowledge. Besides this forum is not the encyclopedic content, thus deletion will not really matter. Thank you. Tariq hilal (talk) 06:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)Tariq hilal

I'm more than happy to accept that the vast, vast majority of Pakistanis aren't terrorists and leave normal lives. I also don't doubt the friendliness of the Pakistani people, I certainly noted in India that the Indians were extremely friendly, and I highly doubt that is different in Pakistan - as you've shown above.

However even given that there is a substantially higher risk of terrorism there than in almost all other countries in the world. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 09:02, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

where is password recovery? why make ppl lose all their info?

Pretty to the point. I've lost a lot of info and have no way to recover....frustrating as a user...and just like craigslist I will get no more help then a volunteer telling what I can see on the screen. Please please please just provide a way to recover my password or don't reply to this. Thank for an amazing site, but you suck for not including obvious luxuries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.119.205.249 (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

If you included an email address when you registered, you can have a new password emailed to you. Otherwise, there's not much we can do. TNXMan 19:21, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Can you explain just what information you think you have lost ? If you set up a new account, you can still edit any page you created under your old account (as, of course, can any other editor). Gandalf61 (talk) 19:30, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate you are frustrated, but ... you have just said to me, and to thousands of other volunteer editors, most of whom have nothing at all to do with the way the software operates, "you suck". Please don't talk to me like that. --ColinFine (talk) 00:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

We really need your help

Victoria wrote:

Dear Sirs, I have just discovered that the editorial we submitted has been rejected due to advertising or promotion. Can you please advise. The org in question is a non for profit org. Families have no one to talk to and feel isolated and alone. Whilst in no way do we want to compromise Wikepedia how can we leave a link without contravening your policies. I would be grateful for any assistance

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Briefly, you cannot. We do not permit promotional efforts here, regardless of the nobility of your cause; in fact, I will refer you to the article, Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Default sort

Hello. I notice that many Wikipedia articles have the following type of code within their edit boxes: {{DEFAULTSORT:Newman, Paul}}. This specific example is found in the Paul Newman article's edit box. Can someone please enlighten me as to what exactly the purpose and/or function of this code is? What is it supposed to do? What does it do? What is it intended to do? Thank you! (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC))

See [1] ;). In this case its so the page is sorted by last name in the categories the article is in. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I just read the entry for the category page linked above and I think it's written in a very inaccessible way—that someone really unfamiliar might read that and say "what?" In much plainer English (I hope), when you add a category to a page such as Paul Newman, for example [[Category:American Actors]], the category page will now list the article Paul Newman among its entries, alphabetically, starting with "P" for Paul. Since human beings are usually sorted by last name this is not ideal, so you can force the category to list the entry last name first, by piping the way you want it to sort, like this: [[Category:American Actors|Newman, Paul]]. However, it's a bit of a pain to do this for an article which has multiple categories. Accordingly, the {{DEFAULTSORT}} tag is used to supply how you want the page to sort for every category on the page. To wit, by typing {{DEFAULTSORT:Newman, Paul}}, if twenty categories are listed below that, every one will sort in the manner specified in the tag.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks. That all makes sense. So, basically, it allows or "forces" the article to be alphabetically sorted by Paul Newman's last name (under the letter N) instead of his first name (under the letter P). But ... that raises another question for me. See, for example, an article such as this: List of actors who have appeared in multiple Best Picture Academy Award winners. When you sort the column with the actors' names, they are being sorted alphabetically by the first name, not the last name. For example, when you use the sorting arrow on the first column (with the actors' names), the first name that gets sorted is "Abe Vigoda" ... because he is being (erroneously) sorted by "A" instead of (correctly) by "V". Why is that? I am confused. Please don't tell me that the DEFAULTSORT command only works in one case, but not the other. If that's the case, what's the point? And why bother? That is, if it allows the article's name to accurately sort only sometimes, but not at other times. That seems pretty random, arbitrary, and inconsistent. Any insights? Thanks! (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC))

DEFAULTSORT only affects categories - it's a global version of using a piped name in the category link. Sorting in tables uses only the text in the table itself, so it can't look into the articles mentioned to see if they have a DEFAULTSORT assigned them - mainly because there's no guarantee that the text in each cell of the table links to a single extant article. I'm no expert on sortable tables, so I don't know if there's another way to allow a sorting by surname in them. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:01, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

You can for example use {{Sortname}}. See more about sortable tables (not a simple matter) at Help:Sorting. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I took care of the first table at List of actors who have appeared in multiple Best Picture Academy Award winners. I'll try to remember to take care of the other this afternoon. The good news is that I can take the table, move the wiki code over to a UNIX box, and use sed to do the rearrangements. The bad news is that I lose anything that isn't 7-bit ascii in the process of pasting and moving, so Peña got turned into Peqa by my code (thank you 'preview'!). I also have to do those which are linked to something other than just their name like [[James Caan (actor)|James Caan]] by hand.Naraht (talk) 13:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Is there a way to fix or adjust the "sortname" command so that O'Hara, Olivier, and O'Toole alphabetize correctly? With names like that, you are supposed to ignore the apostrophe, as if it does not exist. (See the bottom of this page: Listing Names in Alphabetical Order.) Hence, the proper sorting is O'Hara, followed by Olivier, followed by O'Toole. With the present set-up, it is actually alphabetizing the apostrophe (as if it were a letter of the alphabet) and, thus, giving an erroneous sort of O'Hara, then O'Toole, then Olivier. I tried to fix it, but ended up messing things up and reverting. Any advice? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC))

Almost any sorting algorithm uses what used to be call an ASCII sort and I believe is now called a Unicode-sort. Each letter / character is considered in order including punctuation and spaces. This is why the WP guidelines for say to use "Denovo" for "De Novo", "de Novo" and "Denovo". Probably the only way to get an accurate sort of the items in a list is brute force. It is somewhat easier if one sorts the list as it is built. JimCubb (talk) 18:53, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

JimCubb ... thanks, but I don't understand your reply. I am asking if the name O'Toole can appear in the list as O'Toole ... yet sort as OToole. (And similar for O'Hara, etc.) The idea is not to have the list pre-sorted already ... but that the various columns (not just the name column) get sorted as needed ... and, hopefully, accurately at that. So, I really didn't understand your reply or solution. Please clarify. Also, that WP guideline you quote does not make any sense ... does it? If an actor's name is Danny De Vito ... we can't just change his real name to Devito so that a table will sort it properly. I am asking if the name can appear correctly (say, as De Vito) ... yet sort accurately as if it were Devito. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC))

(outdent) Look at the documentation page for {{Sortname}}. There's an optional parameter to set an explicit sort key. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that. But, I could not make heads or tails out of it. I tried to fix the problem myself, but ended up making it worse. Hence, I came back to this Help Page. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC))

(edit conflict) Yes you can sort the table properly and have it display properly. Use {{sortname|Éamon|de Valera||Devalera, Eamon}} or {{sortname|John|O'Brien|John O'Brien (rower)|Obrien}}. The difference is that in the de Valera string, the intended target is the same as the name to display, hence the "||" in the middle, whereas in the O'Brien example, "John O'Brien" is a dab-page so the third parameter needs to be specified to point to the correct place. So you can get something like this:

Name	Random number
Laurence Olivier	123
Peter O'Toole	119
Glen O'Hara	171
Éamon de Valera	153

Hope this helps. Bencherlite^Talk 21:32, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Original example of Danny Devito changed because the article is at Danny DeVito, not Danny De Vito. Bencherlite^Talk 21:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! That was very helpful ... exactly what I was looking for! As a side question, in your table (above) ... what is the purpose of the command that says: valign="top" ...? What is that supposed to do? Thanks! (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:25, 16 March 2011 (UTC))

By default text in tables is vertically centrally aligned, which results in layouts like this:

Row heading	All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.	short text

See how the text in the second cell is centrally aligned? Here it is with valign="top" applied:

Row heading	All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.	short text

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. That makes sense. Now, in your example table, the second column has two (long) lines of entry ... so it impacts the third column that only has a very short entry. I see the difference when valign="top" is or is not applied. However, look at the example table above from user Bencherlite. In that table, all of the rows are one-line only. Thus, in such a case, the valign="top" command is essentially irrelevant / makes no difference ... is that correct? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:57, 16 March 2011 (UTC))

Yes and no. Most of the time it will have no affect whatever on what people see, but, if for example I contract my screen to a small area then the text in the left hand cells wraps and it turns into this: File:Screen shot 2011-03-16 at 6.02.16 PM.png. I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if mobile users would see this type of screen contraction regularly.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks ... yes, that all makes sense. Thanks for the replies. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:41, 16 March 2011 (UTC))

my wiki page is flagged and will not change!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFactor.com

I have updated and changed the my wiki page (above) with their recommendations and the flag has not been removed. The flag says: This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. The notability of this article's subject is in question. If notability cannot be established, it may be listed for deletion or removed. Tagged since February 2011. Very few or no other articles link to it. Please help introduce links to this page from other articles related to it. Tagged since February 2011.

There is not a person I could talk to about this situation and I do not know what else to do to have the flag taken off. Help!

23:37, 14 March 2011 (UTC)~

You do not have a page; rather, Wikipedia has a page that you created. As far as I can tell, not a single one of the sources listed in the article is a reliable third party source. As such, the notability tag not only still applies, but may be even more relevant now that you apparently attempted to provide sources to meet notability standards and, as an insider who would be expected to have knowledge of what has been published about the company, were unsuccessful. As such, I see no good basis to remove the maintenance tag at this time.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:17, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

plymouth rock studios: The Plymouth rock studios has not and did not purchase Waverly Oaks Golf Club. The Golf Club remains open for business

Mark Ridder, GM Waverly Oaks Golf Club

According to the sources cited in the Plymouth_Rock_Studios article (see source here) it has been purchased. If you have a reliable source providing a better explanation of the situation then please feel free to amend the article. Thanks. CaptRik (talk) 08:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Uploading Picture

I'm afraid I'll mess up if I upload this picture, so can somebody please help me and try? Thanks so much guys! Toontown59153 (talk) 23:37, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

That appears to be a copyrighted image that could only be properly uploaded to Wikipedia if it was to be used under a claim of fair use. In order to make a valid claim for fair use, it probably could only be used in an article on the book Woods Runner, and Wikipedia does not presently have such an article. I don't think it would be a valid fair use claim to display this image in an article on Gary Paulson, for example, because it would not meet WP:NFCC#8.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:04, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

If you want to use it for User:Toontown59153/Woods Runner, wait till you move the draft to article space. (Wikipedia does not host non-free content unless it is used in an article, not including user-space drafts.) When you move the article, you can upload the cover, tagging it {{non-free book cover}}, and providing a {{book cover fur}} with at least article and use parameters. —teb728 t c 01:09, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you. Sorry, it's just that I'm a little confused on this topic. Once I move the draft to article space how will I upload the image? Toontown59153 (talk) 01:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

See Help:Files —teb728 t c 01:24, 15 March 2011 (UTC)