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[edit]Source requests
[edit]Is there a central location for me to requests sources that I am having a very hard time finding? A place where I can get in touch with the fastest and most proficient Wikipedia source hunters here? --Alatari (talk) 00:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. --Alatari (talk) 00:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Image thumbnail spacing question
[edit]At List of Category 4 Pacific hurricanes#Category 4 Pacific hurricanes, I want to group the images on the right so there is equal space between them and there isn't excessive whitespace below them. Is there a template that can fix this? Thanks, HurricaneFan25 01:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Template:Multiple image may be what you want. The example given at Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial#Co-aligning uses two images, the maximum is ten. >MinorProphet (talk) 04:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
erasing username
[edit]I have being confused by errors on mobile site while creating username so when realizing what the problem is really - was too late to correct my username of my first choice. I tried to change or erase , but I can't see the option; either can't create "Boleslaw Komar" username as its too close to the one I have bein forsed to choose while geting an error on m.site for my Blackberry
So the question is - can I change user name or erase it so I can create new user name of my choice ? Boleslaw-komar (talk) 01:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You can make a request at Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:02, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Donations
[edit]I read the appeal from Maryana Pinchuk and I entered all of my credit card info to make a donation. When I hit "continue" I got an error message that said "please provide a valid email address" and I could not go further. I double checked and there was no field provided to allow me to imput an email address! Plus, why not take donations without an email address? No one wants more spam. Anyway, with this programming error you won't be getting many donations, which is unfortunate. I love your site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.254.249.250 (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your interest in donating. On the donation form with a Continue button, I have a field saying "Email address" in grey text before I write in the field. The grey text may not always be displayed when the field is empty. The field is right below the country selector. I'm not involved in fundraising and don't know details but you can email problems to donate@wikimedia.org (I see the dilemma in that if you don't want to give an email address). PrimeHunter (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
When I am logged out on google chrome
[edit]Whenever Wikipedia logs me out on google chrome it crashes the browser. Wondering if this can be fixed either by 1) not logging me out 2) fixing whatever it is that is crashing Chrome. Doc James (talk ·contribs · email) 17:01, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see any other users reporting the same problem with Chrome from Google. It may be all on your end. Have you tried clearing out your cookies/cache, restarting the browser, turning off modules, the usual stuff? -- Obsidi♠n Soul 19:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks will give it a try. It has been doing this for a couple of weeks now. Is there a way to just stay logged in all the time?--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I personally don't use Chrome, but try clicking the "Remember Me" (or was it "Keep me logged in"?) tickbox when logging in, and make sure Chrome retains cookies even after you close it (in Firefox, this option is under the Privacy settings). Note however that it's not recommended for public or shared computers.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 13:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks will give it a try. It has been doing this for a couple of weeks now. Is there a way to just stay logged in all the time?--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Content duplicated between pages
[edit]I noticed that the text in Amazonas in the Colonial Epoch is identical to the section Amazonas Region#The Colony. What's the policy here? Is it OK to have duplicated text or should it be removed from one or other place? Neither has any references, if that matters. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have redirected the former to the latter. – ukexpat (talk) 14:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Use of BCE and CE by Wikipedia rather that the proper use of the historically correct BC and AD
[edit]Can you please tell me why Wikipedia uses BCE and CE rather that the proper use of the historically correct BC and AD for dates. Use of BCE and CE is just a recent pc/secular trend which attempts to deny the historical traditional use of BC and AD. BCE and CE still use the date of birth of Jesus Christ for determining the date, so why try to deny this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.230.88 (talk) 11:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia doesn't have a set policy on this. Some articles use AD/BC, some use BCE/CE, depending on what the editors of the article in question have decided is best. See WP:ERA. --FormerIP (talk) 11:55, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I have a follow-up question. Can you please tell me why Wikipedia uses BC and AD rather that the proper use of the politically correct BCE and CE for dates. Use of BC and AD is just an obsolete historical/Christian practice which attempts to deny the modern trend towards use of BCE and CE. BC and AD are fully compatible with the earlier style and less offensive to non-Christians, so why try to oppose the trend? Hans Adler 12:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- See WP:ERA. If you have more questions, please discuss on that talk page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
CSD R?
[edit]Is there a speedy deletion criterion for redirects created by moving a page to the wrong title that was then moved to another title to correct that? Would that be a CSD R3? I feel I made a bit of a mess (see my contribution history). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- CSD G6: "This also includes pages unambiguously created in error." If you haven't broken something
as an adminat least once, then you aren't doing anything. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:21, 14 December 2011 (UTC)- Thanks. Whom are you referring to with your last sentence? (Just wondering, since I am not an admin). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Define English Person
[edit]Typing Define English Person into Google returns a link to a rude word. (See you next Tuesday). Can you tell me why this is? The Wikipedia entry in question must have contained "Define English Person" at some point in time when the Google index was created. If you want to know what I mean type "Define English Person" into Google. Can you help by removing this entry altogether? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.210.59 (talk) 12:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Google's search rankings do not depend entirely on the page content, but also on other sites that link to that content. This is sometimes manipulated to produce these strange results, as described in the Wikipedia article "Google bomb". Deleting the article would only harm the encyclopedia. Google may sort itself out eventually, but this is up to the folks at Google. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You only get a Wikipedia article as result if you omit the quotation marks in "Define English Person". I see no sign that the article has contained that phrase. It contains the three words in different places and Wikipedia has a high PageRank so a Wikipedia article is often the first result in Google searches. I don't think a Google bomb would be needed to produce this random looking result. Wikipedia has no control over Google. The only way I can see we could probably prevent this result is to remove all occurrences of one of the three words from the article, but that would be silly when they all have good reasons to be there in their current context. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I reckon they will sort it out fairly quickly. Quite probably, the person responsible has already been sacked and is currently sitting in the Wikimedia Foundation offices waiting to be interviewed for a job. --FormerIP (talk) 13:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Wiki Page Layout
[edit]Not a question as such - but I suggest that you think about changing the page layout so that the main article title does not appear directly beneath the photo in the 'advert' asking for donations. Eg. I am pretty sure that Jimmy Wales 'et al' do not really want their photos directly above large bold titles such as 'Adolf Hitler', 'idiot' etc. Maybe I'm wrong, but just a thought ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.130.227 (talk) 13:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Just see what happens when you ask Google for the definition of an English person! --FormerIP (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Have just realised that this issue may not be visible to Members because they may not get the donation request at the top of their pages. Examples of the issue can be seen here - and yes, these are 'clean' and relatively amusing examples compared to some that arise, including Jimmy Wales et al's pictures directly above the 'answer' to Google's suggested best answer to the question 'define an English person' (which, btw, is racist in the extreme and would likely have been fixed in nano-seconds had it been the answer to the definition of an American person). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.130.227 (talk) 10:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I seem to have asked for help in the wrong part of the Village Pump
[edit]Is requesting new reports a technical issue? I posted at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#New_reports and seem to be getting ignored.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:27, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Editing the Article on "Circumcision"
[edit]I logged in, then tried to edit the Wikepedia article on "Circumcision" -- but the article has no EDIT button at its top. How do I edit portions of the article? Rabbi18 (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That page is semi-protected so your account must be autoconfirmed before you can edit it. You can discuss your intended edits on the talk page until you are autoconfirmed. – ukexpat (talk) 15:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You can also click the "View source" tab for information. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
New Horizons Governor's School
[edit]I and other of my staff have edited the listing at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons_Governor%27s_School_for_Science_and_Technology. I need to prevent changes to this listing or remove it if that can not be done. Information was edited and added that was libel to staff, incorrect, racist and antisemitic. Thank you.
Winston Greenwell Network Administrator New Horizons Regional Education Center Governors School for Science and Technology
520 Butler Farm Road Hampton, Va. 23666 (Redacted) www.nhgs.tec.va.us (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhgs.admin (talk • contribs) 15:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Please see WP:OWN and WP:COI - neither you, nor anyone else, can control the content of an article. Under certain circumstances, articles can be locked to prevent editing, but at the moment that would not apply to this article. I have undone your changes as I do not see anything libellous, "incorrect, racist and antisemitic". Please use the article talk page to discuss any changes that you propose. – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Help as i good like to upload a picture that might help with an a article about Geograpic Toungue.
[edit]Hi i am 15 years old and have a Geograpic Toungue, and i would love to upload a picture to help the article as the article doesnt really say much about my type of Geograpic Toungue. As my Geograpic Toungue has spilts all over it. i tryed to read the page about information we have to email with our picture but couldnt really understand it. Please help as i would really love to send my picture though. (: Kindly Lacie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.226.65.130 (talk) 16:23, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Lacie. We already have pictures of geographic tongue, but you can always upload another one by going to this page. But we can't promise to put it in the article. Try to make your picture as high-quality as you can, then it might stand a chance. Post at Talk:Geographic tongue once your picture is uploaded to let editors know it is available. Cheers.--FormerIP (talk) 16:31, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Systematically search for readlinks
[edit]Is there any tool that can be used to create a list of all redlinks on Wikipedia? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Go to Special:WantedPages and you will see them listed from the pages with the most redlinks to the ones with the least. The list is far too long for anyone to look through every entry. -- kainaw™ 16:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That page is two years out of date. Wikipedia:Most wanted articles is newer, but not exactly what you are asking for. Perhaps ask at Village pump (technical)? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will bring up the question at VPT. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That page is two years out of date. Wikipedia:Most wanted articles is newer, but not exactly what you are asking for. Perhaps ask at Village pump (technical)? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Template problem outside of my expertise
[edit]If you take a look at Special:WantedPages, there's a cluster of names beginning at around #40 with Jim Malley that seem to be there, not because thousands of redlinks in articles link to the names, but (I believe) because those names are embedded in some template or other (in Malley's case, one of two or three Ireland-related templates) and thus generate false reports of redlinks for every talk page which includes the template in question. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:01, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you click the number, then filter on Template space, you will see the templates responsible (for example Template:WikiProject Belfast). — Edokter (talk) — 17:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Food Grade Alcohol - I just want to know the list of names for alcohols that are food grade because I want to avoid petro alcohols in my shampoo, etc.
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There are many different types of alcohol, that have many different names. I just want to buy all my shampoo, conditioner, hair dye, and body lotions with only food grade alcohol. Therefore I need a list of the names. It might also be helpful to give me a list of petroleum based alcohols so I can avoid them, as they are carcinogenic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.191.190.22 (talk) 17:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC) |
- We cannot help with that type of question here, sorry. You could try reference desk, but please bear in mind the medical disclaimer. Best of luck, Chzz ► 17:40, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
why Basil Soufi
[edit]When I looked up Daphne Oz I got a picture of Basil Soufi with Daphne Oz's name under it. Why? Do I have to look him up to see her picture? (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.214.250.16 (talk) 18:21, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think you were seeing the fundraising banner. – ukexpat (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Problem with wikipedia title
[edit]I have just written an article for Wikipedia about the Presbyterian Historical Society. I posted it yesterday. For some reason, the very top heading given by Wikipedia that i can't edit says "Presbyterian historical society". How do I edit so it reads "Presbyterian Historical Society"? Dkoch76 (talk) 18:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think I fixed it by moving it to Presbyterian Historical Society. You can read how to move a page by clicking the blue text that says "moving" before this (right after "fixed it by"). HurricaneFan25 18:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it. It works now. Dkoch76 (talk) 20:03, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
This sucks badass
[edit]Sorry for this thread. I should have posted about this problem with a bit of a 'cooler head' than I did. And I agree that I shouldn't "fight against the way the system works". Lets see whether the VPR discussion leads to something. Thanks for the input to this discussion. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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I try to paste the reference links from Boeing 777 to a page in my userspace. I cannot save the edit however, since one of the links triggers the spam filter. I want to paste the links to a subpage in my userspace to archive them. The edit filter preventing me from saving the edit however is a major annoyance. Is it possible to get a whitelisting from the spam filter for my account or something? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:59, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Do I have a chance to pass RfA when I only want to have the ability to circumvent the spam filter without a real need for the other tools? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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RfC started
[edit]I started an RfC regarding this at WP:VPR#Create a new userright. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
all my posts have been deleted
[edit]All my posts have been deleted. Shouldn't there first be some discussion? All was truthful and had references. I thought Wikipedia generally was more open. If someone has gone in and removed everything, have I been branded and don't even know it?L509alumni (talk) 19:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- All your posts have not been deleted, here is a list of your contributions that haven't been deleted, Special:Contributions/L509alumni. In fact only 5 of your contributions have been deleted, 4 related to Lifebox and 1 related to Ralph waters. If you click on those two redlinks you will see an explanation of why they were deleted. Both were deleted because you did not explain in the article why these two were significant. GB fan 20:08, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)There are quite a number of posts and links on your talk page. Have you read them? Most seem to have to do with WP:SPAM. Have you read that link? You have not been "branded" but some editors may be on the lookout for your edits. Dismas|(talk) 20:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- What he means to say is that most of the content he has added has been removed. This is because there was issues with his references.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
RS?
[edit]Would this be considered a reliable source? I uploaded it to Commons; it originally came from the NOAA, was forwarded to the University of Illinois, and was re-published in Google Books. HurricaneFan25 20:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'd say no; it has no provenance. (And Google Books does not publish anything.) --Orange Mike | Talk 20:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Er, yes they did; I'll add the URL. :/ HurricaneFan25 20:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Meh, there's no permalink. :( HurricaneFan25 20:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- He means that Google Books doesn't publish them in the sense that they are not a book publisher. They make books published by other sources available (or partially available). It's like being able to read parts of a book on Amazon before you buy it. Amazon didn't publish the book, they only made a previously published book available for you to preview. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, this is it. HurricaneFan25 — 21:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You can cite that book like this: <ref name="Center(U.S.)1958">{{cite book|author1=National Climatic Center|author2=National Climatic Data Center (U.S.)|title=Climatological data: Oklahoma|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=dE6Tptbj7VQC&pg=PA100|accessdate=14 December 2011|year=1958|publisher=National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Environmental Data and Information Service, National Climatic Center|pages=100–}}</ref>, derived using this tool. – ukexpat (talk) 21:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, this is it. HurricaneFan25 — 21:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- He means that Google Books doesn't publish them in the sense that they are not a book publisher. They make books published by other sources available (or partially available). It's like being able to read parts of a book on Amazon before you buy it. Amazon didn't publish the book, they only made a previously published book available for you to preview. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Meh, there's no permalink. :( HurricaneFan25 20:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Er, yes they did; I'll add the URL. :/ HurricaneFan25 20:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Article
[edit]I am writing a page about a former Original Harlem Globetrotter Charles "Choo" Smith and it says I need to edit 10 pages before I can submit it. Is there any way around that. Thank You.
Dwalsh87 (talk) 20:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- That restriction does not apply to creating articles. I suggest that you create a draft in a user sandbox -- User:Dwalsh87/Sandbox -- where you can work on it until it is ready to be moved to mainspace. – ukexpat (talk) 21:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Or use the Wikipedia:Article wizard to help create the structure of a new article. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 21:19, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Your article is at User:Dwalsh87/Charles "Choo" Smith though in its current form is not acceptable as a main space article. There is still much work that needs to be done for it such as adding references, wikilinking, etc. Please read what has been posted to your talk page and view some of the links posted there. Dismas|(talk) 21:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Also the only reference is a self-published page, which is not considered a reliable source. —teb728 t c 22:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Please Remove Article not submitted or signed by me. Thank you.
[edit]Aloha Wikipedia Editors:
Aloha. This morning by coincidence I stumbled upon your article Zhou (Chou) Dynasty (see below) I believe was submitted by my brother Lester DK Chow and not by me. Although he is my brother, my family and I do not accept his views on this matter. He seems to mix historic events with his fantasy. I am the Director of Military Appreciation for AllForceMil.us Military News Magazine www.allforcemil.us Please delete my name from this article as it states that I was the one that submitted it to you (as published in Wikipedia: Keith D.H. Chow, User:KDHChow). I did not. This is totally inaccurate. Thank you and mahalo.
Professionally yours,
Keith D.H. Chow Director of Military Appreciation AllForceMil.us Military News Magazine www.allforcemil.us — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith D.H. Chow (talk • contribs) <stale material redacted>
The material you dumped on this page is old discussions from Talk:Zhou Dynasty, dating back to 2007. None of it is attributed to you in any way.--Orange Mike | Talk 21:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)- Sorry; it appears that you are claiming that User:KDHChow is an impersonation of you? We try to prevent somebody from impersonating you; but in some cases, you will need to prove you are who you say you are. You can do this by sending an e-mail to info-en@wikimedia.org; be aware that the volunteer response team that handles e-mail is indeed operated entirely by volunteers, and an immediate reply may not be possible. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:09, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Where is water measuring puzzle page?
[edit]You know those puzzles where you have two containers of different sizes? And you have to use them to measure out a certain amount of liquid? I know Wikipedia has a page for that. I read it long ago, and I see no reason why it should have been deleted since then. But I can't find the page for it. I've searched with every phrase I can think of, and looked all through the puzzles category pages. I can't find it. What is it called? Could someone link to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.178.89 (talk) 21:58, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I know I've seen it as well but can't find it right now. I thought it would be linked off the page for the film Die Hard with a Vengeance since it was used in that film but the link is gone. Maybe this link will be satisfactory for you. Dismas|(talk) 22:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
How to create a shortcut if using same source?
[edit]On the Doha International Airport page, i am trying to source United Airlines's service using the same source but I keep getting an cite error tag" message. I went ahead and duplicated the source. How do I create a shortcut for the same source without duplicating it? Snoozlepet (talk) 22:02, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You would "name" the reference. In the first ref tag you would put something like "<ref name=foo>{{cite template| blah blah}}</ref>" And then in each subsequent place where you want to use that reference, you would simply put "<ref name=foo />" Dismas|(talk) 22:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- You had missed out a double-quote character. I have added it. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Uhhh, i tried it and it still doesn't work. Snoozlepet (talk) 22:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nevermind, now it works. Snoozlepet (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Unable to log in to my Wikipedia account
[edit]I have forgotten my password to my Wikipedia account. My username is AaronL. I have my password saved in my browser, but it is apparently not the correct password. I also no longer have access to the email address associated with the account, so I cannot receive email instructions for resetting my password. What can I do to recover my password and get access to my account again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.235.92 (talk) 22:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
No responses... is there another forum in which I should ask this question? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.221.221 (talk) 00:34, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you don't know the password and don't have access to the email associated with the account there isn't much you can do about that account. You can create a new account and link the two accounts together. FOr additional info try here, [Help:Logging in]]. GB fan 00:52, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Can you use a YouTube video link as a reference or source for information for an article?
[edit]Can you use a YouTube video link as a reference or source for information for an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rui78901 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Generally, no. What are you trying to document? --Orange Mike | Talk 01:02, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
- It depends. Content on official channels can be used for certain references, as can government videos and others. You can ask about a specific video at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 01:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Help with new article
[edit]I am somewhat new to Wikipedia, though i did author a number of articles. Can someone help me with Franklin C. McLean - particularly with putting it in proper categories. Dr. McLean is a notable physician but also active in de-segregation of minorities. I was actually surprised that no article existed of someone of his statue. Please help - feel free to go and the article yoursef :-) Standard2211 (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I meant he was not that he is since he died in 1968. Apologies. Standard2211 (talk) 23:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)