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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was delisted by Casliber via FACBot (talk) 13:27, 1 January 2018 (UTC) [1].[reply]
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[edit]I am nominating this featured article for review because it is suffused with unsourced weasel words like "prominent", "prefer", "major", "well-known", "rare", "finest", "dominated", etc. and requires extensive copyediting. On just a quick scan, I can see spaces missing after punctuation, use of ampersands in flowing text, and short stubby paragraphs. DrKay (talk) 16:05, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll try to check/address the issues mentioned here. Regards. --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:37, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Hello! Thanks for bringing this article to FARC. I was the nominator of FAC of this article, and thereafter did try to maintain its quality, of course with the help of other editors. However, the article has been neglected for quite a while now. It will be excellent if this FARC process is continued beyond May 15 (I am hoping for some free time in real life after that date). With the help of other editors, we can surely save this FA! Thanks, --Dwaipayan (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments This page does need some work but here are a few suggestions:
- "91 million inhabitants"... as of when?
- "making it similar in size to Serbia" is this a good comparison? Wouldn't it be better to compare it to other states in India?
- " has borders with five Indian states" should be "borders five Indian states"
- "West Bengal is the sixth-largest contributor" ... largest contributing state?
- "It is noted for its cultural activities and the presence of cultural and educational institutions"... I don't know what this means specifically.
- "stalwarts in literature"... I'm not sure that is the correct use of that word.
- "to scores of musicians, film-makers and artists"... can't this be said for any state? What makes this state unique in this respect?
- "playing association football besides cricket, the national favourite sport." This sentence is needlessly passive and can be rewritten to be more readable.
- That's just my comments on the lead, have not had time to delve into the article itself. Mattximus (talk) 22:07, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dwaipayanc: It's now after May 15 - where are we at with addressing the concerns that have been raised? Nikkimaria (talk) 15:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi! Unfortunately I am very busy in real life and short of time for addressing the concerns. Still I am trying... I have covered only the history part. However I am not up to date with copy edit benchmarks, so there are problems even after I go through sections. Please let us have some more time. I'll try to get more people involved. Thanks a lot. --Dwaipayan (talk) 03:26, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I am interested in trying .Even though I am a relative newbie after all West Bengal is my 'matribhoomi' .I will certainly try my best. Please give at least a month or two to do the work FORCE RADICAL (talk) 11:09, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Update: Copyediting has been started in the article. --Dwaipayan (talk) 17:17, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Update 2 Copyediting is complete. Thanks,--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:08, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- This article still has several 'citation needed' comments and unreferenced sentences. I would support delisting unless these problems are dealt with shortly. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:05, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a pretty good article close to FA, but even a quick glance shows that it needs some fine editing first. For example the historic population table is good, but there is no reference to 2011 census in the box. What does "serial" mean in the districts section, and rank of what? All of India? These little things need to be clarified. Mattximus (talk) 19:44, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- @Titodutta and Dwaipayanc: Are you able to address the issues raised by Dudley and Mattximus? Nikkimaria (talk) 18:59, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I logged in after several weeks. The concerns raised are of course addressable. Copy edit was a difficult problem, and now has been addressed. However, I need some more time. I promise I will try my best to address the issues as soon as possible. Please allow some more time. Thanks.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:50, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Update on progress here? Nikkimaria (talk) 15:56, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
FARC section
[edit]- Sourcing problems. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist. The review has been open for seven months and the article still has many unreferenced statements and a few citation neededs. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist Concur with Dudley Miles.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:49, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist. Tagged for unsourced statements since June 2016. DrKay (talk) 11:18, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist - There are sections in this article that are severely undersourced, such as Medieval and early modern periods (1 source that doesn't cover the whole section) and the majority of the cultural subsections. The Literature section is basically a namecheck of a number of "well known" writers without expanding on their merits or contributions (why mention these writers and not others?), making that entire section a WP:SEAOFBLUE. Still a lot of weird, unreferenced sentences in this article, such as "The variety of fruits and vegetables that Bengal has to offer is incredible", "includes hilsa preparations, a favourite among Bengalis" and " It is the gateway to the revolution of European education". The article has currently 11 citation needed tags; I'd wager it is missing a few more. RetiredDuke (talk) 15:22, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment-Give me until the end of December, I was recently busy with my own work and forgot to follow this page.For now you can add the remaining [citation needed] tags which you all wager are needed — comment added by Force Radical (talk • contribs) 02:05, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Partly Done-Existing citation needs were filled up, awaiting more from the reveiwers. Pinging Dudley Miles Sturmvogel 66 DrKay RetiredDuke Nikkimaria-{Please add [citation needed] tags wherever applicable in the article and I will try and fill them up}. Also noting that this being an indian topic finding sources for some statements may be more difficult than for other similar articles — comment added by Force Radical (talk • contribs) 02:51, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This removal candidate has been delisted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the {{featured article review}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:27, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.