Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Wyclef Jean (song)/archive1

Wyclef Jean (song)

Featured article candidates/Wyclef Jean (song)/archive1

Nominator(s): CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 08:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about "Wyclef Jean", a song by Young Thug. I like this song a lot, and think that the story behind its music video is funny and interesting. I've improved this article a lot over the past few days, and feel it now meets the FA criteria. I look forward to receiving feedback! CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 08:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47

Is this just a song or was it released as a single? This article uses the infobox for a song, but the article for Jeffery lists it as the mixtape's second single. Considering that the mixtape article sources a radio release date for this song, I am leaning more toward this being a single, assuming that the citation from that article is accurate.
Are there any citations that explicitly say that this is a reggae song? I am uncertain that describing a song as having a reggae beat is enough as a song could have a specific type of beat, but still be changed or subverted. It is similar to how saying a song having influences or elements of a certain genre is not enough to classify as that genre for the Wikipedia article.
Do you have any background about the song's creation? If so, I think it would be helpful to add some here rather than going directly into talking about the song's composition. It would also be better to name the song the first time it is mentioned in the article, instead of saying just "the track", and to link Young Thug on the first mention. The jump from the lead to the article is a bit jarring.
Is there any further information on the production process behind the song? The Jeffrey article says that TM88 and Supah Mario programmed the track, but that is not present in this article, and that Joe LaPorta was the mastering engineer and Alexander Tumay was the mixing engineer for all the songs on the mixtape. However, none of that information is present in this article. Also, why does this article not have a "Personnel" section? Not to sound like a broken record, but the Jeffrey article uses liner notes as a citation. Does this mixtape have liner notes that you can use?
I do not think on award is enough to justify having a separate "Awards and nominations" section and table. I would suggest removing that and keeping it just in the prose.
The chart placements and certifications should be present in the prose and not just in tables.

I hope that these comments are helpful. The FAC process can be difficult so I hope that this review does not come as unnecessarily harsh. At this moment, I do not think the article is prepared for a FAC. I believe it would be better to try the peer review process first, but I will leave that up to you. I hope you are having a great day and/or night! Aoba47 (talk) 15:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for the review! I've implemented your suggestions; here's what I changed:

Added a Personnel section, based on the liner notes at Jeffery

Everyone in the "Personnel" section should also be discussed in the prose. An example is that Joe LaPorta is only listed in this section, and he is not discussed in the prose. There are also issues with how the article discusses songwriters, as the infobox includes a whole listing of songwriters that are not discussed in the prose for the article and are not listed in the "Personal" section. Aoba47 (talk) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added that it was released as a single
Included some information about the song's name, as I couldn't find much about its production process

The transition from the lead to the actual article is still quite jarring. I would start by talking about Young Thug rather than burying that in the second sentence. See how articles like "I'm Goin' Down", "Your Girl", and "Fearless" each start the article by talking about the singer. The prose in general could use work. For instance, Jeffery should be clearly identified as a mixtape on its first mention (and it would better to both in the lead and the article to clarify where this falls in his overall release, as in is this his first mixtape, fourth, fifth, etc.?). Aoba47 (talk) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the Awards and nominations section
Added the chart placements and certifications to the prose
Added sources that categorize the song as being pop and reggae

I've also slightly reworded the lead to flow better. Thanks again for the review! CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 07:53, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing everything. Unfortunately, I oppose this FAC for promotion. I do not believe that this is ready for a FAC. I am noticing issues with the prose and with information being inconsistently presented in the article, such as a lot of the songwriters only being in the infobox. I would strongly recommend that this be put up for a peer review instead. Aoba47 (talk) 18:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]