Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mount Edziza/archive1

Mount Edziza

Featured article candidates/Mount Edziza/archive1

Nominator(s): Volcanoguy 17:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about one of the highest and most prominent volcanic peaks in Canada, as well as one of Canada's highest threat volcanoes. Like my previous FAC, Volcanism of the Mount Edziza volcanic complex, it cites Jack Souther a lot because he was the only geologist to have studied the mountain in detail. The mountain has received some studies by other scientists since 1992, but they are small in comparison. With that being said, there doesn't seem to be much data regarding the retreat of Mount Edziza's glaciers. Volcanoguy 17:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JJE

"was likely destroyed by a violent, climactic eruption in the geologic past" climatic may need some explanation. And "likely" should be somewhere else - was it destroyed, or not?
I don't see a problem where "likely" is; the source claims it was "probably destroyed" during a violent eruption. Volcanoguy 20:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"that is characterized by" I dunno, are ice caps characterized by their outlet glaciers, or do they simply have them?
Revised. Volcanoguy 19:38, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two "cover" in the first sentence of the glaciation subsection.
I don't see a problem here; "covered" and "covers" are not the same words. Volcanoguy 19:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The present trend towards a more moderate climate put an end to the neoglacial period in the 19th century which has resulted in rapid glacial recession throughout the Mount Edziza volcanic complex" might warrant some subdivision.
Subdivision? Volcanoguy 21:31, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting the sentence, it's quite long. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:55, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not much longer than previous sentences. Volcanoguy 20:56, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A bit over the line to "too long", in my opinion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:55, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added a semicolon. Volcanoguy 23:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"in diameter " -> "wide"?
Source uses in diameter. Volcanoguy 18:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is this a high-quality reliable source?
You tell me since you've used it in the Socompa article (i.e. Argentina and Chile North Ultra-Prominences"). Volcanoguy 20:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I have been looking for reasons to ditch it from there too b/c it doesn't seem to be that high-quality, but I am not the only editor there. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the peaklist source from the article. Volcanoguy 20:58, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"its symmetry having been broken" can this be shortened.
Current wording is to prevent close paraphrasing. Volcanoguy 18:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Inside the summit crater of the stratovolcano is a succession of at least four lava lakes that are exposed in the breached eastern crater rim" I figure this can be shortened somehow.
Current wording is to prevent close paraphrasing. Volcanoguy 18:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I kinda wonder if Mount Churchill should be mentioned in the Hazards section - while it isn't actually in Canada, it is probably the most significant volcano in/around the country.
Source doesn't mention Churchill. Volcanoguy 20:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"In or before 1974, two Tahltan men named Johnny Edzerza and Hank " etc seems like it fits the etymology section better than here? Avalanches and natural disasters occur everywhere. Ditto the names section.
I don't think so since the etymology section focuses on the origin of the name Edziza, not the history of the mountain. Volcanoguy 18:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After thinking about it some more I agree the names section should be merged with the etymology section so that has been done. Volcanoguy 16:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did these mineral explorations get to any point?
Not that I know of. Volcanoguy 18:29, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The caption of File:Tahltan dancers.jpg is kind of WP:SYNTH - there is a difference between the volcano providing resources for millennia to people who view it as sacred, and the volcano itself being sacred for millennia.
WP:SYNTH doesn't mention captions but I've revised the caption of this image. Volcanoguy 19:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are "The New B.C. Roadside Naturalist: A Guide to Nature along B.C. Highways" and "mam, Naiyar (2003). Dictionary of Geology and Mineralogy. McGraw–Hill Companies. ISBN 0-07-141044-9." high-quality reliable sources?
Yes. Volcanoguy 20:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did some plagiarism spotchecking, didn't notice anything.

Spot-checked a bit too. Going to qualify that prose is often not my strong suit in FAC work and some overcomplicated sentences need to be spotted and cleaned. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generalissima

I admire your dedication to this volcanic complex. I'm gonna do a prose readthrough.

Lede is good. Only note is that you don't really give a description for what Ice Peak is, so it reads as an unrelated mountain rather than the southern peak of the mountain.
Clarified. Volcanoguy 18:05, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Under etymology: I wouldn't call those "misspellings", since they seem to predate a standardized spelling. I'd say "obsolete spellings" or something of that ilk.
Done. Volcanoguy 17:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Additionally, maybe we could move the native name of Ice Mountain/Tenh Dẕetle to this section, so all name-related stuff is right at front? I would rephrase this to something like "its Tahltan name Tenh Dẕetle, translating to "Ice Mountain" in English" rather than the reverse.
  Reworded. Volcanoguy 17:57, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Geography and geomorphology is solid. As a rock, you could say.
- "only one worthy of note" I realize the source might not say, but I wouldn't know if there were actually other ice caps or not on the plateau.
  Actually, the source directly states "Although nearly the entire area was ice-covered during the Pleistocene, only the glacier complex on Edziza Peak is presently worthy of note." Volcanoguy 17:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think we need the "respectively" after listing the names of two ridges and two identically named creeks.
  Removed. Volcanoguy 16:53, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Bit of sea of blue on "Drainage", where [Stikine River] [watershed] appears to be a single link [Stikine River watershed]. You could link watershed somewhere else, or create a Redirect with possibilities from "Stikine River watershed" -> "Stikine River".
  Created redirect. Volcanoguy 18:33, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll admit my geology knowledge is limited, but this seems pretty intelligible to me; you do a good job explaining it.
- Underlying -> Basement (geology) was a bit confusing at first to find out what I needed to click to get to the Basement (geology) page. Maybe rephrase so the first sentence contains the word "basement"?
  Maybe it doesn't need to be linked at all? Volcanoguy 18:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The last paragraph of Hazards and monitoring seems to not match with the citations that well. For instance, the Canadian National Seismograph Network and its location is not mentioned at all, nor is the mountain itself! Is there any other sourcing we could use here?
The source doesn't mention the name Canadian National Seismograph Network but it does mention the seismograph network in general. Also, the source claims no Canadian volcanoes are monitored sufficiently which means Edziza isn't monitored sufficiently either. I'm using common sense here. Volcanoguy 17:41, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Optionally, I'd advise linking Tahltan at the beginning of the human history section since its quite a ways from its first mention.
Image captions which scan as full sentences should end in periods.
I think I got them. Volcanoguy 18:14, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Accessibility is a bit hard to read due to an excessive amount of road and trail names (many of which are quite similar). Do we need to list all of the lakes and creeks these trails pass by?
Without the names it would be unclear which is what. Volcanoguy 16:38, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Volcanoguy: That's my piece. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:12, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalissima: I've responded to all of your points. Volcanoguy 18:36, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me IMO, Support. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:06, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eewilson

My review will be here, mostly source review. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 19:27, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It turns out I'm doing a prose reading and review as well. I have my notes in progress offline. I won't be able to do anything on this Tuesday because I will be out of town. After the prose review, I will do a source review. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 05:15, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]