Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 March 26
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Recently I submitted an article about author and psychologist, Dr. David Gruder. This page was deleted by Adam Bishop who gave no reason and has not returned my inquiry as to why it was deleted. Now, when I search for 'David Gruder' an editor with this same name appears. I truly hope that this was not deleted merely because an editor wanted his information associated with the name. I am willing to change the page to David S. Gruder. I look forward to assistance and clarification. Thank you. Traceylott (talk) 00:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
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This page was originally redirected to the main IRC channels page because people felt it did not merit its own page. There is still the concern that there isn't enough transparency with the admins IRC channel so I have created a new page which documents the new channel guidelines, the people that have access to the channels, a list of operators and a section at the bottom for users who have concerns to post to bring them to the attention of the operators and wider community. My new proposed page can be found at User:Ryan Postlethwaite/IRC. I'm hoping that this page will open up the admins IRC channel to the community and allow everyone to clearly know who has access and what is expected of people that use the channel. The page will also allow non users of the channel see exactly who they should contact should they have any problems. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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I realise a large majority of the editors who took part in the AfD discussion thought the article should be kept however I don’t think that the fundamental issue – that there are currently no reliable sources to verify the information about this living person – was really addressed. The type of sources currently used in the article aren’t generally considered reliable and definitely shouldn’t be used as the sole reference material for an article on a living person. They are comprised of:
All this seems to indicate is that there was one tabloid article that a few blogs picked up on – it does not necessarily follow through that reliable sources will have also reported on the subject and no one who took part in the Afd could provide any additional sources. I realise that different sources are suitable for different subjects but a tabloid wouldn’t be an appropriate source to use for someone like Tony Blair and the absence of a better source shouldn’t change the status of an unsuitable one. In this instance the lack of any alternative coverage probably makes it more likely that “liberties” have been taken – with nothing to compare the work to who’s going to know? The fact that it is claimed she holds a Guinness world record was brought up as an assertion of notability in the AfD discussion, but with no reliable source to verify the information it doesn’t seem relevant. Most record holders are notable because such records receive coverage from reliable sources, as shown above this does not seem to be the case in this instance. Having said that I see the issue of notability as pretty secondary since without any reliable sources it is impossible to verify any of the information in the article - however well the subject might meet the general or specific notability guidelines. Guest9999 (talk) 17:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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This band has four full-length albums, a live DVD, and has toured internationally [10], easily meeting the requirements set forth at WP:BAND. Ultima Thule Records is not "non-notable", as claimed in the AfD, being one of the leading labels in the Vikingarock genre. This band has articles on the Swedish Wikipedia [11], the Dutch Wikipedia [12], the Polish Wikipedia [13], and the German Wikipedia [14], the latter of which has much higher standards for inclusion than the English Wikipedia, being notoriously intolerant of pop culture articles. I'm among the first to !vote to delete non-notable bands and cruft, but I feel that this band easily meets our requirements for inclusion. Heather (talk) 15:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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This page currently redirects to the Daily Mail and General Trust Wikipedia entry. I had written an entry for Primelocation (a property portal in the UK) that was deemed by an admin to read too much like an advertisement, so he redirected to the DMGT page. However, there's actually no reference to Primelocation on the DMGT page, so this is really a poorly explained (or rather, completely unexplained) redirect. Anyone searching for Primelocation who doesn't realise that it's owned by DMGT would be confused as to why they'd been redirected to the DMGT page. At the admin's advice, I've rewritten the entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmtownsend/Primelocation) and would like this redirect to be reviewed. Please let me know if there's anything I can add to (or delete from) the entry that will make it more suitable. There was a lot more content in the original entry, so it can be fleshed out if necessary.Jmtownsend (talk) 14:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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not sure if this is the right place to pursue this, but this Afd was closed by a non-admin, closed before any consensus was reached, and then results were added in the wrong place, could an admin take a look at this? Rtphokie (talk) 13:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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Really not a very encyclopedic article; cruft. Nominated for deletion before and passed, but that probably says something about the people who edit wikipedia more than its merits. 81.149.250.228 (talk) 12:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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The article is about an Indian Entrepreneur, and I would like to add more references to the article to prove its credibility.
http://www.outlookmoney.com/scripts/IIH021C1.asp?sectionid=10&categoryid=48&articleid=902
http://saunderslog.com/2006/01/page/2/
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3634
http://www.foxbusiness.com/article/equals-launches-public-beta-party-line_491768_1.html
http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=24334230464
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=IN%2F%28ajay+and+Madhok%29&d=PG01 PuneetaArora (talk) 06:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Comment Not sure why I've been asked to comment again, but the sandboxed version is still spammy, subjects's name as a heading, talking about his vision and lots of links to the company. It's still basically a vanity page. I note that the refs above are mainly for the company - Is this article about him or his business/ Jimfbleak (talk) 07:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
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The reason I'd like to request undeletion of this page is because the DSL MUD is a very old MUD which is still one of the most popular MUDs on the internet which is both ROM based and Dragonlance based. As MUDs have been shrinking over the years, it would be nice to keep any large, popular MUD around. I think some of the arguments could be countered, for example the Google argument, the string "Dark and Shattered Lands" was used, but "Dark & Shattered Lands" should have also been used. This turns up more Google hits than, for example, "TorilMUD", which also has a Wikipedia entry. DSL also has a larger and more active playerbase than TorilMUD and is also a very old MUD like TorilMUD, but with a different theme and a codebase which has evolved separately to become very different in its own right. I think that MUDs like this should be preserved, since people will want to know what kind of MUDs are out there when they Wikipedia MUDs, ROM, Dragonlance, etc. Not everybody knows about DSL, but not everybody knows about Toril, or it's old sister mud Duris, or many other MUDs or even what a MUD is, but I think they warrant Wikipedia pages and I believe that DSL does too since individually they may all not be very notable save the original Diku, but collectively they do make up a long and interesting history of Internet gaming and have some ties into RPGs, MMORPGs, online interactive games, etc. Also, as an example of an active, live, and larger MUD today, DSL would give a user a good experience, in the sense that it would give somebody an idea of what a MUD is like. In particular DSL is a very well-rounded MUD, so one could either "clan" and PK (Player Kill) or "kingdom" and RP (Roleplay). It has normal hack-and-slash, and a large number of classes, races and skill. Basically, I also think DSL is a good example of a MUD for a curious person to play, whereas other MUDs are rapidly declining today. There are online resources that do refer to DSL: http://www.mudconnect.com http://www.topmudsite.com http://www.mudmagic.com http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/msplist.htm http://www.google.com/Top/Arts/Literature/Genres/Fantasy/Series/Dragonlance/Online_Games/ and zMUD and the new CMUD which are the most popular MUD clients used has DSL as an entry in its list of MUDs, so somebody searching on the internet could possibly actually Wiki this MUD. There are also usenet references to DSL, which can be found via Google Groups. So, in short, I think there is actually some merit in keeping the Dark_and_Shattered_Lands Wikipedia entry around. Rahennig (talk) 02:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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