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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion if adequate reliable sources exist in the future. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Matas Vaitkus

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Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and doesn't meet WP:NBASKETBALL. Onel5969 TT me 15:01, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:GNG. A Google search, including in Lithuanian sources, did not turn up any articles that go towards GNG. Alvaldi (talk) 16:13, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In my personal opinion this basketball player meets WP:GNG, WP:NBASKETBALL requirements to be included in notable sportsperson.

There is a source in article which has a independent basketball sportsnews article exclusively about this player who plays in 1st Division and 2nd Division simultaneously.[1]

Also player played for Lithuania U19 National Team in FIBA Under-19 Basketball World Cup and competed against USA, France, Australia, Senegal etc. and such players as Tyrese Haliburton, Joel Ayayi etc. source of FIBA Player profile also provided in article. [2] And positioned 4th in the world.

In my opinion thats more than sufficient evidence and source for player to be notable sportsman.

User:Paulmafija (talk) 18:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Paulmafija: Per the general notability guideline, a topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Articles on team or league websites are considered primary sources and as such are not considered independent of the subject. Other than this game review, there are no articles that cover Vaitkus in any detail. Alvaldi (talk) 21:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Alvaldi: on the article I also included another source earlier today [3] which is independent of the subject. I can include many numerous sources, e.g www.proballers.com article which shows all latest achievments and records. I was just unaware that team and leagues wsource counts as primary, so sorry for that. (talk) 21:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]
@Paulmafija: The article you are refering to only briefly mentions him twice and would not be considered a significant coverage. The Proballers source is a player profile/database listing that does not go towards passing GNG per WP:NOTDATABASE. Alvaldi (talk) 22:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Alvaldi: I don't want to insult your judgement, but 800 word article [4] exclusively talks avout this player. While second article [5] even though is brief but talks about his achievment on first game at highest level. I seen articles on sportsplayer with just League's profile. (talk) 23:37, 7 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]
@Paulmafija: No offence taken. The source you mention does indeed talk about Vaitkus a bit and I'm fine with counting it towards GNG. However, for the article to be kept it requires multiple indepth sources from different publications. A good rule of thumb is to have at least three good indepth sources. I've also seen articles where the only source is a league's profile or some database listing and those usually get deleted if taken to AfD, unless they pass one of the sports-specific notability guideline (and even then they ain't 100% guaranteed to be kept). Alvaldi (talk) 08:20, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


References

  1. ^ "Netikėtai į „Neptūną" patekęs gynėjas naudojasi visomis progomis – net į mačą atvykus trečiajame kėlinyje". basketnews.lt (in Lithuanian). 8 November 2021.
  2. ^ "Matas Vaitkus (LTU)'s profile – FIBA U19 World Cup 2019". FIBA. Retrieved 6 January 2022.
  3. ^ "Iššovusiam „Neptūno" jaunuoliui – trenerio pagyros: „Įrodinėja savo vertę"". basketnews.lt (in Lithuanian). 26 September 2021.
  4. ^ "Netikėtai į „Neptūną" patekęs gynėjas naudojasi visomis progomis – net į mačą atvykus trečiajame kėlinyje". basketnews.lt (in Lithuanian). 8 November 2021.
  5. ^ "Iššovusiam „Neptūno" jaunuoliui – trenerio pagyros: „Įrodinėja savo vertę"". basketnews.lt (in Lithuanian). 26 September 2021.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 15:05, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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