Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bergil

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Beregond. Black Kite 22:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bergil

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Character that makes a brief and unimportant appearance in Return of the King. Ridernyc (talk) 21:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Beregond. De728631 (talk) 22:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC) Changed to Keep as I have included Abductive's secondary sources. The character is clearly important for the development of other Tolkien characters in the novel. De728631 (talk) 19:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect to Beregond. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 04:48, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect/merge into his dad Beregond since he's already mentioned there. I don't see why deletion is necessary when a redirect will do as fine and still allows the name to show up in categories (Category:Middle-earth Men). (Beregond himself is a prominent supporting character in ROTK because he's a plot dump and instrumental in saving Faramir from the pyre. Cut from the film, naturally. But if Beregond himself needs to be merged, I'd say go into Gondor.) Uthanc (talk) 06:43, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Before the nominator says it's not notable enough to ever be a search term, consider that it's Tolkien stuff. Some will inevitably treat Wikipedia like a Tolkien encyclopedia site. I'm not saying we should keep every single scrap of info but there's a place for everything no matter how small. Also, for a book teeming with minor characters Bergil gets more than usual space. Uthanc (talk) 12:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A minor character, but significant in one of the chapters. The interaction with him is significant, This is cvery major fiction, and should be covered completely. DGG ( talk ) 14:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Beregond. I agree he's a minor but significant character, but I couldn't find much on him to support notability, and for content organization, it may be better to cover the character in Beregond. Cenarium (talk) 17:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, receives treatment in secondary sources; [1], [2], [3] [4]. Basically this is one of the few children with any character development in Tolkien's work, and he has drawn the notice of scholars. Furthermore, these works do not always mention him in the same breath as his father. Abductive (reasoning) 04:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.