Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2011 Alaska Cessna 180 crash

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The result was delete. joe decker ^{talk to me} 20:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Alaska Cessna 180 crash

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Contested PROD. The reason given in the original PROD nomination was: "Crashes among general aviation aircraft are far more common than incidents involving airliners, and are therefore not considered encyclopedically notable unless they involve famous people, or lead to industry-wind changes in safety procedures, see common standards for inclusion at WP:AIRCRASH. Otherwise, the event is more of a news story (WP:NOTNEWS)." I continue to stand by that. While the accident was fatal, there is no evidence that it has led to any "changes to procedures, regulations or issuance of an Airworthiness Directives". Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There appears to be nothing that indicates lasting notability here, with all the references relatively short news items. As the nominator says General Aviation accidents are relativly frequent.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing I can really add to Sjakkale's and Nigel's arguments, between them they cover all the pertinent points IMO. YSSYguy (talk) 13:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:AIRCRASH criteria for GA aircraft as no Wikinotable people appear to have been involved. Mjroots (talk) 13:43, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I agree with all above. 213.246.82.177 (talk) 05:51, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The sad fact is that this sort of thing happens fairly regularly as soon as the summer season starts up here. I believe there have already been three fatal plane crashes, seven climbers dead at Denali[1], and last week five fisheries workers drowned in Cook Inlet when their overloaded skiff got swamped[2]. Alaska is dangerous, it takes people out all the time. Three people that I know personally have died or been injured in small plane crashes in the last 10 years. The individual crashes are of course tragic, but we can't document each and every one here. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:50, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for reasons given above. A news story, not a notable event. Choess (talk) 03:18, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This claimed the lives of a whole family, a rarity in airplane disasters. Also rare for a plane to crash into train tracks. This article was a major event in Alaska's Aviation history. This should always stay.Springyboy (talk) 09:31, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, aircraft accidents (it's not a disaster, it's just an accident) that kill an entire family are not rare at all; it happens almost every time - if not every single time - a large airliner crash occurs that kills all on board, and it happens quite a bit with light aircraft accidents as well. At any rate, that is no criterion at all for keeping a WP article. As Beeblebrox points out, aircraft crashes are also quite common in Alaska and this is therefore not a major event in Alaska's aviation history; and the crash onto train tracks is basically irrelevant. YSSYguy (talk) 21:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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