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Humanist celebrant

I've no objection to changing the article title, or to some of your other changes, but I know from personal experience (which I can back up with sources if you insist) that the word "officiant" is (still) widely used both in the UK and elsewhere - although you are correct that the word "celebrant" is generally preferred in the UK. The BHA is certainly not doctrinaire about use of the term. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:20, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ghmyrtyle - it's not doctrinaire in regards to what celebrants use in personal advertisements and marketing but it's got its own clear guidelines about preferred language and so never uses 'officiant' in any official materials.Zythe (talk) 17:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

I would make the general point that the article should - so far as possible - not be based on what the BHA says about its celebrants, but rather on what independent sources - such as the BBC - say. Obviously that's not completely feasible... but a WP article should not simply set out what the article subjects themselves want to have published. WP:COI applies in this case as much as any other. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ghmyrtle. I'm a longtime editor of over a decade and I know the rules! I would simply say, however, that given the BHA is a reliable source in and of itself and that BBC article (quoting the BHA's old language) is plainly out of date, that there's not a huge issue at stake in terms of which is a higher source of authority. If you look at any of the dozens of articles published about humanist ceremonies since 2012, not to mention Government mentions in Ireland, England, and Scotland, of which there have been many due to the humanist marriage legalisation debate and the first same-sex marriages in Scotland being humanist, 'celebrant' is overwhelmingly preferred and 'officiant' rarely seen, and typically then only by the sketchier sources.Zythe (talk) 09:43, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure. But entirely removing the words "humanist officiant", as you did in this edit, failed to take account of non-BHA usage, for example in other parts of the world, was too UK-centric a perspective, and could have confused our global readership. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:55, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure. I think your subsequent edit was probably right (I've yet to see sources that the term is widely preferred in other countries - though I don't doubt that it might be).Zythe (talk)

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Hi Zythe, I am 206.162.161.156 (I was unregistered until today) and I made a few edits on the Angel page, but you removed them without explanations. May I ask what was wrong with them and do you have any suggestions? Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by LyonRicky (talk • contribs) 15:48, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ricky. I found your edits were not particularly easy to read and that your rewrite discussed the character from a fictional perspective and not a real world one, as Wikipedia articles should aspire to do, so I pressed 'revert'. I thought I'd have a chance to explain this in the edit summary but then it was done.Zythe (talk) 16:15, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Got it! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LyonRicky (talk • contribs) 16:52, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

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Sometimes, I am unable to undo edits like this. 73.168.15.161 (talk) 14:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, this is becoming very strange. The angry homophobic geeks don't even seem to be real geeks anymore!Zythe (talk) 19:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Again, a change I can't undo. :( 73.168.15.161 (talk) 04:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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Secular humanism

What you "know" from unpublished sources is irrelevant here - it can't be used. Both the existing statements are in the article text (the "Modern context" section), are fully sourced, and should remain. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:05, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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I'd appreciate your help on the above.

Can we reverse the merging until we've had a chance to discuss this further? Sentientism isn't a neologism - the term has been used for many years, for example in this "Souls and Sentientism" paper by Richard Ryder (one of the originators) in 1991 https://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1537&context=bts.

The merge has completely lost all of the sentientism article references (there are many more than for the less-used term sentiocentrism) and the external links. Sentiocentrism and Sentientism are distinct, but related, philosophies so I think there's value in them being separate entries. Sentientism can be seen as an an extension of Humanism to cover all sentient beings. In common with Humanism, Sentientism explicitly commits to the use of evidence and reason when determining sentience and making moral decisions - this was the basis of the term when created by Richard Ryder and Peter Singer in the 1970s. Sentiocentrism is silent on that front so remains open to supernatural rationales.

Happy to chat via jamiewoodhouse@hotmail.com if easier than here (I'm still learning).

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