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July 2023

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Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Nabi Tajima. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Sam Sailor 18:36, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your threats mean nothing to me you don't edit anything longevity related so you don't know what's going on before you say I don't either I do I've been to several sites about longevity Wwew345t (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Your recent editing history at Julie Winnefred Bertrand shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Technopat (talk) 20:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

oh yes I'm sure the people who haven't edited on the topic in 5+ years will care enough to agrue Wwew345t (talk) 20:56, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Joan Riudavets. Technopat (talk) 20:55, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

sailor Sam reverted my pages because in his opinion they shouldn't have been restored even tthough they didn't go through a afd very fair for me to get blocked Wwew345t (talk) 21:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Stop icon with clock
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Ponyobons mots 21:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
oh yes very fair I restore pages that weren't deleted probably then Sam salior reverts all of,them for the sole pourpose of i agree with it and I get blocked Wwew345t (talk) 21:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Final, good faith warning...

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Hi Wwew345t! You are currently involved in major edit-warring, for which there is a serious risk of your account being blocked. Whatever the issues at stake, please desist in this behaviour and engage other users in meaningful discussion to reach a case-by-case consensus. Thank you. Technopat (talk) 20:59, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

sam salior edited 0 pages on longeivty until he reverted all my edits half of them weren't even deleted properly (therefore should be restored) Wwew345t (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC) how fun as soon as I restore pages that people don't really edit a bunch of people who probably didn't even know the topic exist dogpile on me[reply]

WOw

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amazing how quickly some person who has no clue about the topic he is editing in reverts all my edits of pages that weren't deleted properly because of his opinion and I get blocked Wwew345t (talk) 21:11, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please desist...

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You are entitled, as per the block template, to appeal said block. However, please be advised that your edits here since then may lead to undesired consequences. Technopat (talk) 21:16, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

its the truth Sam salior had no basis for reverting most of my edits other then his opinion Wwew345t (talk) 21:22, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No further comment.--Technopat (talk) 21:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects

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im not looking to start a edit war some pages were redericted without a afd (and several were deleted that shouldn't have been) and I'm trying to restore them so if it must happen it can be done properly Wwew345t (talk) 22:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Technopat Wwew345t (talk) 23:02, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
...... Wwew345t (talk) 23:05, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Technopat I'm attempting to talk peacefullly with you it doesn't make sense to keep a 5 year old redercit because i need a consensus when there wasn't a discussion about adding said readerect in the article Wwew345t (talk) 23:08, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Technopat ok then so for some reason your gonna support someone's vandalism of my restorations of pages on the grounds of i agree with it because I need a consensus even though there wasn't a consensus on the redirect (therefore said redercit shouldn't be there) and when I ask for a discussion with you instead of doing that you very 'civally' threaten to have me blocked. Wwew345t (talk) 23:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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can someone please block technopat he his undoing all my edits for no reason and is refusing to talk to me @admin Wwew345t (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I did do something agressive to start but I stopped in a attempt to make peace he continued to threaten me and then ignored me refusing to talk to me about the issue (which was me restoring pages that eere redercited without a afd) Wwew345t (talk) 02:32, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
im not trying to do a edit war but I'm so confused because it seems to me like I'm being called out for just trying to restore pages that were deleted/redercited without a afd can a @admin tell me what I'm doing wrong? Wwew345t (talk) 02:40, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I need help

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can someone tell me how to start a discussion to restore a page that got deleted by a afd? 5 years ago some editors dogpiled on longevity pages and I think some of them could be expanded to be more detailed and cited if they are restored Wwew345t (talk) 03:20, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

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Thank you for your messages on my talk page. As for your first comment, regarding "talking", I have already pointed out how and where to talk. Regarding the feeling you have that I'm "messing" with you, I can assure you that nothing is further from my mind. I value my time too much to waste it "messing" with anyone.

As for your second message, I'm not "blaming" you for an edit war. I pointed out the facts that you were engaged in one and it turns out that you are repeating the same behaviour that got you blocked for edit-warring. I have explained to you how to solve the issues involved. Whether or not you choose to do so is entirely up to you. Technopat (talk) 09:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I see now that you have left me several messages on this talk page and elsewhere. Half of them I simply don't understand. However, as some of them are downright rude and you have simply continued with your edit warring, my original thought of asking you to explain what you mean has since given way to not wanting to bother. The bottom line of all of the above: you go your way and please do not bother to contact me again. Thank you. --Technopat (talk) 09:28, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024

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Stop icon with clock
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for edit warring, as you did at Oldest people. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stuff

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@DerbyCountyinNZ I know you dont like me but the first think that the other user in the edit war did was immediately disregard what you said and re insert ille Ciocan Wwew345t (talk) 17:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfDs

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Hi, can we have some diffs here? You can make a null edit and put them in the edit summary. Polygnotus (talk) 00:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Oldest_people. Polygnotus (talk) 00:47, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tekla Juniewicz Inah Canabarro Lucas Edie Ceccarelli Elizabeth Francis and Ethel Caterham have all been created after that was added and none of them have been deleted most of these have survived afd so I simply thought that it doesn't make sense to include that when every instance in the last 2 years has been to sustain the article Wwew345t (talk) 03:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024

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???? What the hell is this Wwew345t (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How am I a sock????? This is so random and unfair Wwew345t (talk) 20:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"obvious behavior match??? How? Because I undleted a single page? Wwew345t (talk) 20:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Wwew345t (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I would like to point out that I looked at the user I'm allegedly a sock of if look at the investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/EpsomGentleman/Archive (which I would like to point out that I was not even mentioned in it nor does there seem to have been any actual investigation into whether or not I'm an alt) His Edit History and my edit history we dont edit the same pages its not even close to the same topics (he mostly edited pages relating to britin I mostly edit pages regarding the oldest people or supercentenarians) which brings up another point If he edits pages mostly relating to britin and his socks accounts all of names relelating to Britian. Then it would follow that he is probably British that's another thing we dont have in common as I am american my username also doesnt match any of his usrname structures as the first 3 letters in my username is a reference to wwe an American company while his socks are usally something british sounding Furthermore he and his socks were banned for adding unsourced content something I have never done (you can check my edit history) so I'm not sure how I'm and "Obvious behavior match" to a guy i have nothing in commen with and who didnt edit in the same topics as me isnt even the same nationality as me and whose edits are completely different Structurally then mine also he has never edited in a afd while I have participated in a couple so in short I couldn't be more unlike then the user I'm supposedly a sock of so this "behavioral match" makes absolutely no sense futhmore I have attempted to contact the blocking admin asking him why he thinks I'm a sock and he has not answered

Accept reason:

This request has been open for nearly two months. The blocked user has made a seemingly reasonable argument that they are not a sock. There is no SPI for this user. CU has found no connection. The logged reason is that there is an "obvious behavioral match" but other admins are having trouble seeing it. The blocking admin provided some sort of private evidence to reviewing admin that they did not find compelling enough to decline the request. It seems the case for socking is weak and I am therefore unblocking. El Beeblerino if you're not into the whole brevity thing 19:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your chance to defend yourself is now. If you have anything else to add to your request, please do. 331dot (talk) 13:16, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I restructured the when tuing so it can be read better I'm just not sure how I'm a sock of someone I have nothing in commen with Wwew345t (talk) 13:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hold this can get resolved because I've never heard of the guy I'm allegedly a alt of Wwew345t (talk) 13:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rosguill: Could you provide any insight into why this user was blocked as a sock of EpsomGentleman? Looking at the Editor Interaction Utility, it appears they have some shared interests with Epsom Gentleman's socks AmbroseGreypaw and London2024, but there's no SP log of this case. Thank you! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:34, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Am I allowed to respond to comments like these? Because I'd like to point out that I've only edited half of the pages listed on the link provided Wwew345t (talk) 03:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Significa liberdade, can you shoot me an email so that I can reply? I’m not seeing the “email this user” on your user page and I would like to provide the relevant evidence confidentially for security through obscurity reasons, as the affected pages have seen a lot of persistent sockpuppetry. signed, Rosguill talk 03:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What evidence... I barely edit on wikipedia in tje first place Wwew345t (talk) 03:55, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cant you just check IPS or something how can I be a sock of a guy who's not even the same nationality as me Wwew345t (talk) 03:56, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rosguill: Email sent. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Significa liberdade, replied last night. signed, Rosguill talk 21:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Rosguill! I've received the email and reviewed the evidence. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What evidence is there that proves I'm an alt? I havent even seen it Wwew345t (talk) 21:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you need more proof that I'm not an alt? I use my email for more then just this site you know I am logged onto other websites with this in where I am an active engager Wwew345t (talk) 21:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Such as my tapatalk account Wwerocks245 Wwew345t (talk) 21:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The ticket is still open... I haven't even seen the evidence that supposedly proves I'm a sock of a complete stranger Wwew345t (talk) 22:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What happens now? Does this just stay open Wwew345t (talk) 16:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again! Sorry you've been waiting. I personally do not feel comfortable either declining or accepting this unblock request based on the evidence provided. If another administrator would like to take a look, feel free. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:44, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait that's it? I was already reprimanded for reversing a deleted article with a afd check my history I stopped doing that at one point and would only underlie articles that didnt have a afd done with that with one exepctiob most of my edits are something completely different anyway I though there was more "evidence" but it seems that itz just one edit that just so happened that the guy also edited Wwew345t (talk) 23:47, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I edited like 2 pages that the other guy too its ridiculous to call me a sock just for that if we had more in commen that would make sense but nothing has been shown otherwise I've edited way more pages then that Wwew345t (talk) 23:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So this is what I'm gathering
The evidence I'm a "sock"
I happened to have edited 2 pages that the guy did
Evidence im not a sock
I've edited way more then those 2pages
My edits on the other pages arent even remotely close to what he did
I'm not even the same nationality as him (all signs point to him being british)
I've participated in afd discussions and debates over pages in which I presented reasonable arguments
Am I missing something cause it seems to me like thus whole thing is just a extremely rushed assumption based on one or 2 edits I've made out of like a hundred Wwew345t (talk) 23:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{checkuser needed}} Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does that mean Wwew345t (talk) 22:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for running that it should help prove that my ip is nowhere close to the guy I'm allegedly a sock of and clead this misunderstanding up Wwew345t (talk) 22:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based on the data I have available (which includes historicals), I would probably say Wwew345t is technically Red X Unrelated to EpsomGentleman if I were asked for a check today. I wouldn't even entertain anything more than possible, and probably not even that. Izno (talk) 00:06, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Wwew345t (talk) 00:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I second Izno's findings - this acccount has no technical connection to EpsomGentleman's known socks. People move house, change internet provides and buy new devices, of course, so a negative CU finding is never definitive - Rosguill, could you forward me a copy of that behavioural evidence for consideration? Girth Summit (blether) 14:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I get the skepticism and it's fair but if you run a ip check I'm confident you'll find that not only do I not live near the guy I'm accused of being a sock of we probably don't even live in the same country Wwew345t (talk) 19:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Crowley, et al

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I've reverted your recreated of Bob Crowley (Survivor contestant), which was reduced to a redirect after being nominated for deletion at WP:Articles for deletion/Bob Crowley (Survivor contestant). The nomination was discussed by the community and closed by an independent administrator. If you have concerns with these closes, you will need to direct them to the administrators involved in the respective closures. Your next recourse is WP:Deletion review if you disagree with the finding of consensus to redirect by the closing admins. —C.Fred (talk) 21:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a clear bias with the nominator and that is the only time one of those afds had more then 3 people in it Wwew345t (talk) 21:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thats not a commubity thats a biased editot trying to force his views even if they violate precedence Wwew345t (talk) 21:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And looking closer, WP:Articles for deletion/Tina Wesson had one keep !vote, and that was from a user now blocked for sockpuppetry. —C.Fred (talk) 21:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Then that's a matter to discuss with the closing administrator and, if that discussion proves fruitless, pursue a deletion review. —C.Fred (talk) 21:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was under the impression you ckuld only do a deletion review shortly after the afd itself Wwew345t (talk) 21:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fortunately, incorrect. You can start a deletion review anytime especially if your alternative approaches fail. FWIW, I don't have bias against Survivor winners but had concerns about their compliance with the project's policies on biographies of living persons , like ones notable for just one event, regardless of amount of appearances. Returnees are no exceptions either, to put this another way. One thing clear: trying to unilaterally challenge the AFD closure made by an admin, especially by undoing the redirection/re-targeting of a page, would backfire and worsen your standing... or reputation. George Ho (talk) 07:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure but helen glover is notable enough for a oage and she didnt win Wwew345t (talk) 13:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"I dont have any bias" your argument was refusted several times in affds were bothered to show up because your argument is subjective they won a season of one of tje most wacyhed shows in america and youd like to pretend they werent based on your opinion i thibk im justifed in challenging afd that was attended by 1-2 people sometimes only you i feel loke if you put them up for afd abd people showed up youd find yourself in rhe miniorty but people didnt show up because no one really thkigut someone would go along and say "i thibk all fhese pages arent notable because i said so ill try to delete them all!" Theres a reason these pages have been pages for years you just cant see it Wwew345t (talk) 13:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Wwew345t. Responding here to keep it central. I believe consensus was clear, but you’re welcome to file a Deletion Review as @C.Fred and @George Ho noted Star Mississippi 15:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are more keep votes? Wwew345t (talk) 16:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And his ratonial for delelting the page is afds that he started that were poorley attended you cant say hes nlt biased when he pit almost every winner up for afd Wwew345t (talk) 16:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i thibk im justifed in challenging afd that was attended by 1-2 people. This kind of approach is something you'd rather not try again without performing a proper process; it would lead you into more troubles, otherwise.
I wonder whether you know how to file a WP:Deletion review. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't, frankly, judging from your writing, editing, and approaches especially toward others and me. George Ho (talk) 17:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't see your admittance that you don't know how to file a WP:Deletion review. —George Ho (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We can come to a reasonable end to this Wwew345t (talk) 17:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like sayinf they fail the critera you listed is a stretch it says they have to be low profile and they certainly arent low profile individuals (most of them anyway) furthermore the policy on pages says tv characters with a major role get oayes yes? I would consider the winner of one of the most watched reality shows in the world which has spawned many spinoffs in other countries something that fits Wwew345t (talk) 17:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Youll note that whenever the argument i just listed was brought up the consus would be to "keep" i gst that you dont think its notable enough but i feel like your downplaying just how big survivor is and how many people watch/read/care about it Wwew345t (talk) 17:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Perhapes i was wrong to call you biased but i do think your reasoning is rather flawed and negates the impact that survivor has Wwew345t (talk) 17:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
“There are more keep votes” does not mean there’s consensus to keep. For tech reasons, I cannot open the DRV I odn’t think but happy for one to be opened Star Mississippi 18:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@(user of this talk page) Please WP:Deletion review#Instructions and learn them properly. If you're still having issues with the instructions, you can ask anybody willing to help you. (If not me, then how about anyone more experienced and willing to help you?) For goodness sake, why not test just one article before any other articles? George Ho (talk) 20:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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