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Thx!

For keeping that eye open :-) Cheers. - DVdm (talk) 18:52, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

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Webinar / edit-a-thon at the National Library of Medicine (NLM)

Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!

organized by Wiki Project Med

On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Wikipedia meeting at the United States National Library of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland - with a second on Thursday, 30 May for those who can't make it on Tuesday. You can participate either in-person, or via an online webinar. If you attend in person, USB sticks (but not external drives) are ok to use.

Please go to the event page to get more information, including a detailed program schedule.

If you are interested in participating, please register by sending an email to pmhmeet@gmail.com. Please indicate if you are coming in person or if you will be joining us via the webinar. After registering, you will receive additional information about how to get to our campus (if coming in-person) and details about how to join the webinar. Klortho (talk) 06:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Adminship again

Hi Wikipelli! So it's almost two months since I left my last message about adminship - have things calmed down now, and are you willing to consider running? I think I probably said this last time, but you would be a shoe-in. I really can't see you having any problems at an RfA. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:14, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Again, thank you very much for your kind words and support. Things are quieter now, no question, but I'm going to have to defer again for a little while. I'm a public school teacher and in the throes of the last weeks of school for the year. I'll get in touch with you this summer when I'm ready to take the plunge. Thanks again! Wikipelli Talk 16:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Ok, summer it is. :) Thanks for the reply! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 21:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

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Have time on Saturday?

I'm sorry for the last-minute notice, but on Saturday, June 8, from 3 to 6 PM, Wikimedia DC and the Cato Institute are hosting a Legislative Data Meetup. We will discuss the work done so far by WikiProject U.S. Federal Government Legislative Data to put data from Congress onto Wikipedia, as well as what more needs to be done. If you have ideas you'd like to contribute, or if you're just curious and feel like meeting up with other Wikipedians, you are welcome to come! Be sure to RSVP here if you're interested.

I hope to see you there!

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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, June 15!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, June 15 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 20:09, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

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Join us this Sunday for the Great American Wiknic!

Great American Wiknic DC at Meridian Hill Park
You are invited to the Great American Wiknic DC at the James Buchanan Memorial at Meridian Hill Park. We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck! :)

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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, July 13!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, July 13 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 00:42, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

You're Invited: Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the Smithsonian

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Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the
Smithsonian American Art Museum

You're invited to the Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon, part of a series of edit-a-thons organized by the Smithsonian American Art Museum to add and expand articles about American art and artists on Wikipedia.

This event will include a catered lunch and special tours of the Luce Foundation Center for American Art and the Lunder Conservation Center at the Smithsonian American Art Museum.

9:15 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. on Friday, July 19, 2013
Smithsonian American Art Museum
Meet at G Street Lobby (9th St. & G St. NW, Washington, D.C.)

Capacity is limited, so please sign up today!

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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, August 24!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, August 24 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 04:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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Are you free on Wednesday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of Wednesday, August 24 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 11:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Meet up with local Wikipedians on September 14!

Are you free on Saturday, September 14? If so, please join Wikimedia DC and local Wikipedians for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages are welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please visit the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 19:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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Are you free next Thursday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next WikiSalon, which will be held from 7 to 9 PM on Thursday, September 5 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon is an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 15:16, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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Are you free next Thursday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next WikiSalon, which will be held from 7 to 9 PM on Thursday, September 26 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon is an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 06:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Are you free on Sunday? Join us for a special Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for a special WikiSalon at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Library's Digital Commons Center. We will gather at 3 PM on Sunday, October 13, 2013 to discuss an important topic: what can Wikipedia and the DC area do to help each other? We hope to hear your thoughts and suggestions; if you have an idea you would like to pursue, please let us know and we will help!

Following the WikiSalon, we will be having dinner at a nearby restaurant, Ella's Wood Fired Pizza.

If you're interested in attending, please sign up at the event page. We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 02:30, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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Gabucho45

Man, I've never gotten AIV-sniped before! I had a report ready to go on Gabucho45, clicked submit, and found out you'd already handled it, with refs and everything. Good work! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

gotta love Huggle :) Wikipelli Talk 20:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Clemson University Football

Hi,

There is a mistake on the Clemson Football page. They were not named co-champions of the ACC Atlantic Division in 2012. This was a title Clemson University gave to itself, but one that the ACC does not recognize. I would please ask that this be changed as it is an insult to the Florida State University Seminole's program that actually did solely win the ACC Atlantic Division, and then went on to win the conference.

Thank you, Taylor — Preceding unsigned comment added by FSUNoles27TS (talk • contribs) 16:23, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Taylor... I really don't have any knowledge about Clemson or FSU or ACC football, so I'll leave the discussion on the championship to others. When I reverted an edit on the Clemson Tigers football page yesterday, it was more to remove personal and inconsiderate comments ("you nutjob", etc) that were included in the edits. I don't know if that was you that put those in or another user, but they were inappropriate, to say the least.
Disagreements on content happen all the time on Wikipedia and the project won't work unless there is discussion and collaboration on articles. A much more appropriate way to suggest the change would have been on the article's talk page. There, without calling names, etc, various points of view could have been stated and consensus reached. Hopefully, you will be able to discuss the matter with others on the talk page. cheers! Wikipelli Talk 14:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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Disruptive editing

Why don't you answer the question that I posed? Your "knowledgeable" editors claim to want quality content—you even have the nerve to solicit donations—but are evidently unable to distinguish technically correct content from weakly argued quasi-nonsense. Further—as I noted the other day—opinions that differ from those of your deep-pocketed sponsors are speedily deleted. Case in point: the Cloud computing article. My list of disadvantages disappeared lickety-split. Who ever heard of a technology (I should say, a technological approach) that offers advantages only, but zero disadvantages? Any reader who bothers to think about the content will immediately pick up on Wikimedia Foundation's strong bias. 50.128.184.140 (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I think you need to learn more about Wikipedia, how it is written, and the guidelines for contributions. You obviously have an interest and knowledge in certain subjects, and I'm sure you could be a good contributor, but you don't grasp the essence of verifiability, Point of View, etc. You seem more inclined to be upset and rant than to learn. If that changes, this link might be a good place to start: Tutorial (I'd pay particular attention to 'Citing sources'). You might also benefit from this page. If you're interested in help more than arguing, feel free to let me know and I'll provide whatever guidance I can. Wikipelli Talk 20:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...

New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian

Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.

New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis??

New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges

News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions

New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration

Read the full newsletter


Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 22:01, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For reporting an IP vandal to WP:AIV, who I've blocked for 2 weeks. Bearian (talk) 19:50, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks Deutschland12345 (talk) 18:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Deutschland12345

Sorry about that, I was editing a page to see how wikipedia works. Thanks for editing!--Deutschland12345 (talk) 18:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Chrissy Costanze

I think you should make a wiki page about this girl. she is an awesome singer and musician and i think she has enough back story to be put on here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.90.118.102 (talk) 13:39, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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Temporarily Deleting Optelian Wikipedia Page

I have been requested by the President of Optelian, Mike Perry, to temporarily remove the Wikipedia entry for Optelian. While I work for Optelian and have permission to post the material, the president would like to review the material before it is posted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregQuirk (talk • contribs) 21:06, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi... there are a couple of problems with this. One is that, if you work for Optelian, then you potentially have a conflict of interest with the subject that will make it difficult for you to edit the page impartially (without bias). Wikipedia articles must be neutral and a relationship with the subject is discouraged.
Second, removing the content of the article suggests or implies ownership. In the couple of weeks that the article has been on Wikipedia, several other editors have contributed to the article. Though you might have initiated the article, you really don't have ownership and certainly cannot remove it for review by another person associated with the article.
I strongly suggest that you leave the article as it is and edit as you see fit - keeping in mind that your relationship with the subject makes edits suspects. If you or the company president discover factual errors that can be verified through reliable third-party sources that you can cite, you can make the changes at that time and under those stipulations. Wikipelli Talk 21:12, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I also encourage you to use the article's talk page to a) disclose your relationship to the subject of the article, and b) to propose changes for discussion and collaboration with other interested editors. Wikipelli Talk 21:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

things

i was doing a spell check and u undid it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.142.197.111 (talk) 15:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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Blank Pages

What's the point of wikipedia containing blank pages?

I assume you mean the English Tourist Board? If so, that page is not entirely blank. If you notice, it is a 'redirect' page. This means that, rather than have a page for that topic, the same information can be found elsewhere in Wikipedia. Wikipelli Talk 16:42, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


Mensa Jimmy Savile edit

While you may consider the edit of his background to include "paedophile" as "unhelpful," please demonstrate to me that it was either A) unfactual or B) that this is anything more than your opinion. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.124.242 (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

With all due respect, I only consider the inclusion of 'paedophile' inappropriate insofar as it is not cited at all with reliable 3rd-party references. It is not up to me to prove that it is unfactual, it is up to you to prove that it IS factual. Wikipelli Talk 20:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Im Sorry

I feel as if you dont know the real story of the Mafia, and I find the fact that your unwillingness to change your beliefs based on scientific research done in space is ultimately a truly desperate attempt to capture the hopelessness of Reality. John Goti was and always will be a Chitari from a dark world, and you should be glad that there are heroes with magic sticks to save us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.20.139 (talk) 20:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Clearly, I'm young and have much I can learn from you. In the meantime, if you're going to suggest that, "Mafia members have now become Amish and milk cows with there cold New York fingers", you're going to have to cite it with the research from space. Cheers. Wikipelli Talk 20:51, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Government Plates

Information icon Hey, Skyfinity Here. I was trying my best to remove vandalism on the page for Government Plates, the Death Grips album. Unfortunately, the page is being relentlessly vandalized, and misinformation made it's way into my edit because I had carelessly copied content from what I thought was a correct previous edit. Sorry, and thank you for warning me. --Skyfinity (talk) 20:25, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

No sweat.. and thanks for the message! The same thing happened to me. I finally gave up and I see that the page is now protected. Wikipelli Talk 20:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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Ricardo fort

Why did you erase the changes on "Ricardo fort" page?? nobody knows him in the english speakers countries and here in argentina we hated him. let us laugh of him PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.250.246.253 (talk) 13:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

There was a mistake.

I believe that my edit regarding the Time War was very constructive, due to the fact that the final day of the Time War did in fact resemble the state of New Jersey. I would strongly appreciate it if you restore my edit. Thank you very much.--170.24.131.162 (talk) 14:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that the information you added is your personal opinion and so not really appropriate for an encyclopedia. There might be others that don't feel the same way. However, if you find a reliable, 3rd party source that suggests a similarity in appearance to New Jersy, you can add that information. Wikipelli Talk 14:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Wermacht = Armed Forces Heer = Army

So why using the word Wermacht for Army? It is uncorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.149.40.15 (talk) 13:06, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Xite Music

Just now an IP has been editing Xite Music. Can you make sense of the edits? George8211what did I break now? 20:29, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Looks like the IP was a little confused about the subject of the article. It appears to have been taken care of. Cheers! Wikipelli Talk 02:30, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Star Sports

Friend, are you staying in India? If you are not, please do not revert my edits and warn me repeatedly. I am only putting out the truth. Out here in India, all Star Sports does is to show cricket matches, I am just adding it in and you always remove it. Luluvit (talk) 16:17, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you cannot include information that is not verified. If you wish to include that they show something "..a billion times.. ", you must include a reliable source for that information. Wikipelli Talk 16:19, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
"A billion times" is an exaggeration, I agree with you. Then is it fine if I do the same edit, but without the "a billion times" line? Because, the current version after your edit is false. I know that because I watch it frequently, and I just want to help the site by adding true information about Star Sports. Luluvit (talk) 16:26, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Again, personal opinion or even personal observation is not acceptable (generally) in Wikipedia. I would strongly urge you to look for newspaper articles about the channel or the company. See if you can located something that indicates that there is public dissatisfaction reported. That would be perfect to add to the article. Remember, though, that the source must be reliable and independent. I sympathize with your point of view, but try to understand that you are one person and that is not enough to add to the article. If the channel is not doing what the consumer wishes, you should be able to find information to substantiate your claims. Wikipelli Talk 16:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
It will be hard to find sources, but I will look for it. And, yes, I am one person but get back to the page and you will see that many other editors also edited the article in the same fashion. So, a lot of people do agree with my view. Luluvit (talk) 16:39, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Anyway, I will not add anything there till I find a source. But, can you remove the 'last warning or else you will be blocked from editing' from my talk page? I never meant to do anything that will harm the site, so I do not think it should be there. Luluvit (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't dispute that there may be many others that share the view. That is why I am hopeful that you will be able to find citations that you can include to verify the information that you wish to add. It is also very possible (even likely) that others have added unverified information. We do the best we can to monitor but there are simply too many editors and pages to keep up with. I was drawn to your edits today because you are a relatively new editor and I read your edits as you made them. I believe that you are trying to edit in good faith to improve the article. I am going to remove your 'final warning' from your talk page. Good luck! If I can help, please let me know. Wikipelli Talk 16:44, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
I am new and just learning on how to edit this site. Thanks for removing the warning from my talk page, and if I need your help for anything else, I'll inform you. Luluvit (talk) 16:52, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

User: 81.234.88.227

Hi,

I have been removing this person's disruptive edits as well as you. They just edited another page after your final warning, I suggest that their editing privileges are removed.

Thanks

(Anonposeidon (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC))

the user has been blocked. Wikipelli Talk 17:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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The burden felt when ClueBot goes down is quickly relived once I see your monitoring the RCs. Thanks for your diligence in protecting the wiki :) — MusikAnimal talk 17:52, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I appreciate that. I wondered why CB and I weren't fighting with each other today. Wikipelli Talk 17:54, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Black People (shopping)

A tag has been placed on Black People (shopping), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Cleanup after malicious page move

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Wikipelli Talk 18:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

An edit made to Richard Chase

A very small edit I made to the page for Richard Chase was undone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase


The sentence I edited stated, "Two days after killing Wallin, Chase purchased two puppies from a neighbor.".

This sentence seems to have been submit by another user as a joke. It is completely irrelevant to anything else in the article, has no source, and is ENTIRELY "unconstructive" (the excuse used to undo my edit).

I submit another edit, with more "constructive" information. If you still find this unsatisfactory then PLEASE at least remove the line about the puppies.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.14.235.181 (talk) 19:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I had no opinion on the 'puppies' edit. My only goal was to remove the edit that changed the line to: "Chase purchased engaged in necrophilia and cannibalism." This was unsourced. Wikipelli Talk 19:06, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

hello

hello i see that you made no mistakes thank you for notifying me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weege01 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Mistake

The changes made just now are by an employee of the museum. This is the correct information we want displayed, not the slanderous stuff that was put on here by an ex-employee — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.185.187.202 (talk) 20:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

The source of the information is not what is important. You removed information that was cited and, thus, verifiable and you did it without explanation. Wikipelli Talk 20:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

ANSWER THIS IMEDIATLY!

I need to know the name of the head ot the executive branch of NY. if you don't know then it is Mackenna. I feel that if you can prove me wrong well then go ahead and PROVE ME WRONG!!!! thank you for your time....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.241.170.89 (talk) 20:30, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what the name is, and that's not important. The information that you added was formatted very poorly and contained errors in capitalization and punctuation. Additionally, you included your signature which is something not done in Wikipedia (unless on Talk pages). If the head of the executive branch is 'MacKenna', then please take your time and be careful adding this information. Please be sure to include a reliable, 3rd-party source for the information as well. Wikipelli Talk 20:36, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Sarkisian

What do you mean, it's not helpful? It's the first thing anyone who knows Cher's actual name says when they hear Steve mentioned. I'm adding a note to her page, too, because he just got hired at USC, which is crawling with entertainment-industry mavens and students. If someone doesn't put this info here to be found, they'll just assume. 198.207.0.5 (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

It would seem a rather backward task to go to each 'Sarkisian' page and say who they are not related to. If someone is interested, wouldn't they just go to Cher's page? Oh, I'm not related to Cher, either, but I'd prefer you not include that on any pages. Wikipelli Talk 20:38, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

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Great job, on keeping the vandalism at bay with ClueBot being down and all. Keep up the great work. :) Clarkcj12 (talk) 20:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Hollywood Hong Kong Edit

Your accusation that my edit was not "constructive" is both vague and incorrect. You are acting as a tyrant and are guilty of the exact same thing you accused me of. I added information to the page and did nothing to alter the original author(s)' content. I understand anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, but your deletion of my work is destructive, unreasonable, arbitrary, and unjustified. It is an abuse of your privilege. Shame on you. Reading messages other people have left you. It looks like you have abused your privilege repeatedly and deleted other people's content as well. That makes you a serial offender. I wonder why people like you could be given a PhD, as you have the judgement of a 2nd grader at best, if not a kindergartener. Of course there is also the possibility that you may have faked your PhD degree in your resume. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.204.111 (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Good morning. Thank you for your message, though I think before you engage another editor on Wikipedia, you would do well to read this. I believe that the note on your talk page was not accusatory in the least and suggested that if you had a question, I encouraged you to ask. I don't see any questions above, only a rant. Not very productive.
All that aside, I am glad for the opportunity to explain my rationale for reverting your changes. If I erred at all, it was not being more specific about why I did this.
The changes you made were nearly all based upon what I have to assume is your personal opinion about the symbolism in the film. Though you wrote it well, you suggest that "Most movie reviewers and critics appear to miss the symbolisms and thus the true meaning of this film." Inasmuch as this is not cited at all by any reliable source, I have to assume that you alone have made that determination. Accurate or not, it is inappropriate to include your beliefs in an encyclopedia article.
Your additions go on to describe such things as, "Most movie reviewers and critics appear to miss the symbolisms and thus the true meaning of this film.", "the five towers also symbolizes the incredible building boom in Shanghai", and, "The 5 buildings of the Hollywood Plaza looks like 5 fingers, and is symbolic of the 5 fingered mountain in the well known Chinese novel "Journey to the West.". Again, these may or may not have been intended by those involved in the film, but the additions as you've made them represent only your opinion. Others might disagree with your evaluation.
If these points are made in a source that you can cite, they would be acceptable in the article. Something to the effect of a reviewer writing, "Many viewers of the film note the apparent symbolism of... " or "The writer has stated that the purpose of the 5 buildings is to represent... ", etc.
I hope you find this helpful and you understand now why I removed the addition. I do apologize for not being more clear with my explanation. If you have any other questions, I'll be pleased to answer them. Wikipelli Talk 16:04, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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For reverting several vandalizing edits by IP addresses. -Recent Changes Patroller NDKilla 21:07, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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It sure is busy right now. Drmies (talk) 18:46, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

deleting my statement

i put good imformation about somthing in my post and you deleted it, i feel like you should be deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.8.28 (talk) 20:09, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


Naturalization of intentionality

My suggestion ceertainly was constructive. I suggest deleting the whole paragraph from Crane, which has nothing whatever to do with the naturalization of intentionality, but rather denies the necessity or the adviseabllity of such a thing. (Incidentally, I tried to add a sentence doing what the author fails to do, namely, to say what is meant by the naturalization of intentionality. The article does not at present explain that. Those (like myself and Dretske) who have advocated views that would naturalize intentionality seek to analyze representation in terms that belong to natural science) . Cranes suggestion that there is no analysis and that intnetionality is a primitive undefinable concept is in no way a naturalization of the concept. If it were a primitive concept, representation might belong to some supernatural realm of thought, as opposed to the realm of naturalistic or scientific thought. Furthermore, no argument is cited from Crane that representation is not analyzable, He just says 'Why not accept it as primitive' This is not an argument. But the point is that Crane's remarks are irrelevant to the topic of the article.


Dennis Stampe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.61.60.181 (talk) 20:17, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

I think you're right. I apologize for making that revision. Looking back on it, I see that you deleted the paragraph and left a misspelled word at the end of the remaining paragraph. I think I was too hasty in assuming it was vandalism. I'll change it back and also remove the warning from your talk page. :) Wikipelli Talk 10:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry...it was an experiment.

I apologize for adding the juvenile statement to the entry about types of cheese (i.e. "butt cheese"). I was trying to prove to my friend that Wikipedia has more control over the content than he thought (i.e. the trusted editors...at least that's what I think it's called). I wanted to say thanks for proving me right!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahatmah (talk • contribs) 17:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

You hatin

Why you hatin on Wheel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.131.8.60 (talk) 17:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Lee Aaron

Hello - If I write a comment in talk and I want it to be removed I can do so. These are my comments - I can't vandalize my own comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertwilliams232323 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

absolutely correct. My apologies. I think I was thrown by the difference between your name (Bob Connolly) and your Signature (RobertWilliams). I should have looked closer. I'll replace your comments and remove my warning. Wikipelli Talk 18:38, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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