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October 2018

What do you intend to use the content you have posted to your sandboxes for? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:50, 21 October 2018 (UTC) I'm new to Wikipedia. I thought my Sandbox was a place to just practice. But actually, I'm a bit stuck. I would like to create a table that you see in my sandbox. I would like to reference that table from the Prime Numbers page. I know that Prime Numbers is a protected page. I would want someone to review it anyway. I created one PDF file in Commons which is under review for Deletion. so I've created a TGN file and a SVG file. But I don't know what to do with them and how to reference them from the Prime Numbers page. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.[reply]

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Hello

Hello, Wikijames1, and welcome to Wikipedia.

I'm on staff at the Wikimedia Foundation (the non-profit organization that runs the computers behind Wikipedia – we don't write any articles), and some editors from the Teahouse told me about your desire for a "Save" button. Would you mind telling me about what you expected? Specifically, I'm trying to figure out whether people like you were looking for a "Save" button that would save a private copy that wasn't posted on the internet (like "Save" works in most e-mail systems), or if you couldn't figure out what "Publish page" would do, or if the problem was something else.

You can just reply here: Click the [edit] button, type your reply, and click the blue "Publish changes" button to post it. I'll check back here. Altenatively, you can go to Special:EmailUser/Whatamidoing (WMF) and fill in the form to send me an e-mail message. Either way works for me. I know you're already on your way with editing, but it would actually be really helpful to me to learn more about what you're thinking, and I can take that information back to the Editing software team. Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

  I just wanted to temporarily save my work for further editing at a later time. I did not want to 'PUBLISH' the work yet.
A short note or pop-up by the PUBLISH button would have been helpful.

Thank you.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Table of prime numbers (November 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Robert McClenon were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission seems to be a test edit and not an article worthy of an encyclopedia. Please use the sandbox for any editing tests, but do not submit for review until you have an article that you want reviewed for inclusion in Wikipedia. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This appears to be a test of the ability to create a table of prime numbers. It does not appear to be an article draft.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Table of prime numbers and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 03:14, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Wikijames1! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:14, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you, Rebestalic^{[dubious—discuss]} 20:32, 11 November 2018 (UTC) ok, i will, thank you for the info Wikijames1 (talk) 20:35, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Table of prime numbers

Is the table of prime numbers you have written about your own idea, or has it been published somewhere else?
Having two copies of the same page is not helpful, for various reasons, such as making extra work coordinating updates and corrections, and the likelihood that someone may miss one of them if there are changes that need to be made. I am therefore inclined to delete one of them, but if you know of any good reason for keeping them both then please say what it is. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:20, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is where I answer your question. If you don't get back to me I'll try something else. I do not know the proper procedure to resubmit a draft, especially since 'they' deleted my draft page. Yes, go ahead and delete a copy. But please let me know in detail how to get to the remaining page. Thank you.

I created this table on my own. I thought of it while dealing out a deck of playing cards for Solitaire. I saw it wasn't on Wikipedia or anywhere else. This is where my editing on Wikipedia began. Thankyou. Wikijames1 (talk) 14:13, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering. Yes, this is the best place to answer my question. It is usually best to answer a question on the page where it was asked.

I saw that you had posted to this page, and came back to check, because I have this page on my watchlist, so that any editing of it shows up on that list. However, you can't always assume that another editor has a page you edit on their watchlist, so to make sure they see a message you post for them you can "ping" them. There are several ways of doing that, but as good as any is to post {{Ping|JamesBWatson}} with your message (but of course replacing "JamesBWatson" by the name of the editor you want to notify). That will show up on the page as @JamesBWatson:, and the editor will get a yellow note at the top of the page telling them there's a message for them. However, for that to work you have to sign with ~~~~ in the same post as posting the "ping". It won't work if, for example, you forget to sign your message, and then go back and add a signature in a second post.

Since you agree to having one copy of the page deleted, I shall delete User:Wikijames1/sandbox and leave Draft:Table of prime numbers. You can get back to that page by clicking on the blue link. (The link to the deleted version will turn red after I delete it.) You can always get back to any page you have created, or even just edited, by searching for it in the list of your contributions, which you can see by clicking the "contributions" link at the top of the page.

You have clearly put quite a bit of work into the page you have created, but I'm afraid it is virtually certain that it will not be accepted as an article, because Wikipedia policy is that we accept only content which has had substantial coverage in reliable published sources, and there is a policy that original research is not accepted. When I first started editing Wikipedia I thought that was stupid, as it seemed to me that Wikipedia was an ideal place for people to publish new work. However, after I had a bit of experience of editing I realised that there are very good reasons for that policy, perhaps the most obvious one being that we are not able to have experts on every subject vetting and reviewing every submitted article, so that the only way we can verify information is to require content to have already been published in reliable sources.

You say that 'they' deleted your draft page, but that was done because you asked for it to be deleted, by putting a {{db-self}} tag on the page. If you want me to I can restore the deleted edits to the editing history of the page.

To resubmit the draft you could mark it as a draft article by posting {{subst:AFC draft}} on the page, and then click the "submit" button which appears when you save that edit. However, I ask you not to do that, since, as I have explained, there is pretty well zero chance of its being accepted, and so it would do nothing except take up time of a reviewer who could instead spend the time on reviewing another draft.

I am truly sorry that your start to editing Wikipedia has hit problems. My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. I do hope that you will carry on editing, and not be put off by the difficulties you have had getting started. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:21, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

After posting the message above I decided I might as well go ahead and add the "AFC draft" template to the draft myself. However, I will not click the " Submit your draft for review!" button to submit it for review. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:32, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you for your time and detailed explanations. I will continue editing. I find it very interesting to research and learn about various subjects. As far as Prime numbers, I'll look for a place to get it published. Thanks again.Wikijames1 (talk) 15:44, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why have you re-created the sandbox copy of your table, after you agreed to have it deleted? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:17, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to see if I could make it a ten column table which I can get references for. I need a place to experiment in. I thought the sandbox was the place to do this. I'll keep it deleted if that's what I should do.Wikijames1 (talk) 16:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, you don't have to keep it deleted, and you are quite right, the sandbox is the place to do this. I just asked because I wondered why you did it, that's all. Sorry if I gave the impression that I was objecting to what you did: that wan't what I intended. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:13, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Table of prime numbers concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Table of prime numbers, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 00:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Table of prime numbers

Hello, Wikijames1. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Table of prime numbers".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (📧) 14:42, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]