User talk:Vivek1982

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== Social entrepreneurship, George Abraham, and TGF ==

Hi Vivek1982. Thanks for leaving me a note on my talk page. I do have a lot of admiration for Abraham George. I'm not trying to make him look bad or denigrate his work. My intention is to try to keep Wikipedia's articles encyclopedic rather than letting them become puff pieces (which our nonprofit/NGO/charity/third sector articles have a tendency to move towards). There is much more to do in the social entrepreneurship article. The whole section on current practice is basically promotional of individuals rather than being informative about social entrepreneurship in general. It's hard with subjects like these because they do such fantastic work, and are to be admired, but our articles should still take a measured tone and should concentrate on the article subject instead of personalities.

I thought the only thing of yours I had deleted from the Social Entrepreneurship article were the references which I believe are not really sufficient to uphold the assertions. I did delete a sentence from an IP address (which may have been you when you didn't log in) that read The founder of TGF, Dr. Abraham M. George, has been recognized by Thomas Friedman of the NY Times as one of the leading Social Entrepreneurs. I think this is a great thing to put in George's article. But it just seemed tagged on in the social entrepreneurship article and I don't see what it actually tells us about social entrepreneurship. The fact that someone won a social entrepreneurship prize isn't itself particularly informative about the subject. There is mention of Yunnus' nobel prize, which I think is borderline but that at least has the role of letting people know that social entrepreneurship is recognized as a "good thing" in the world outside of social entrepreneurship itself.

I think you make a good point about a lot of social entrepreneurs serving the lower middle classes rather than the truly poor. I've been looking for good citations to write up something similar (along with more on the role of social entrepreneurship in development), but don't have access to a decent library right now and haven't (so far) found a rigorous source online.

This is my reasoning for the actions I took. If you disagree with me about content for the articles we should discuss on the article talk page where other editors can weigh in. Because I'm only an editor, just like you. -- Siobhan Hansa 18:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to say thanks for finding that reference on the social entrepreneurship article! -- Siobhan Hansa 14:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]