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Speedy deletion nomination of W. Paul Cook
[edit]A tag has been placed on W. Paul Cook requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Martin's Beach
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Speedy deletion nomination of The Vagrant (magazine)
[edit]A tag has been placed on The Vagrant (magazine) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at User talk:98.114.213.201, you will be blocked from editing. Skier Dude (talk) 00:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Whipple Van Buren Phillips
[edit]A tag has been placed on Whipple Van Buren Phillips requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Alternate History Discussion Board
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Speedy deletion nomination of Ian Montgomerie
[edit]A tag has been placed on Ian Montgomerie requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Decades of Darkness
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Speedy deletion nomination of Whipple Van Buren Phillips
[edit]A tag has been placed on Whipple Van Buren Phillips requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
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August 2009
[edit]Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to the page List of Arthur characters has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Martin451 (talk) 22:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello The Lloigor. Nice to meet you! I'm Airplaneman. I'm here to inform you that I have merged your article, Jacob Katzenallenbogan, into The list of Arthur characters under the "The adults" section. I did so because the article was probably not, in it's own right, notable enough to stand alone, although Jacob Katzenallenbogan is a valid character in the Arthur TV series. It might've been put up for deletion by someone who is less knowledgeable of the Arthur series :-). I hope you don't mind. Please inform me on my talk page if you have any questions or concerns. Happy editing! Regards, Airplaneman talk 20:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you :-) The Lloigor (talk) 20:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Whipple Van Buren Phillips
[edit]I have nominated Whipple Van Buren Phillips, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whipple Van Buren Phillips. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. HarlandQPitt (talk) 03:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Paul Dunbar Lang
[edit]The article Paul Dunbar Lang has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Unreferenced substub about a fictional character. No demonstration of separate notability.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Yukon Confederacy
[edit]A tag has been placed on Yukon Confederacy requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Harold Barr
[edit]A tag has been placed on Harold Barr requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
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Your Fitzpatrick's War articles
[edit]Before you put a lot of effort into creating articles about detailed fictional elements from Fitzpatrick's War, please read the guideline on Notability (fiction). The point is that articles that are no more than plot summary are discouraged; in order for a fictional element to be an acceptable subject, you need to be able to show "non-trivial real-world coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." You could also read WP:FANCRUFT#Articles about fictional works. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Harold Barr
[edit]The article Harold Barr has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Harold Barr is the name of a real person; this context-free stub somehow survived a speedy deletion request
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Proposed deletion of Yukon Confederacy
[edit]The article Yukon Confederacy has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Pure plot retelling about a non-notable aspect of a book
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Speedy deletion nomination of Decades of Darkness
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A tag has been placed on Decades of Darkness requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.
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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Abductive (reasoning) 17:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Grand Harbor
[edit]The article Grand Harbor has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- It is inappropriate to create these sort of stubs. Wikipedia is not a compendium of everything one can glean from reading a work of fiction
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Speedy deletion nomination of Decades of Darkness
[edit]A tag has been placed on Decades of Darkness requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content.
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September 2009
[edit]Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Liancourt Rocks dispute, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 23:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Moiola Elementary School (K-8)
[edit]The article Moiola Elementary School (K-8) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Notability? I don't see any.
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Speedy deletion nomination of White Peril
[edit]A tag has been placed on White Peril requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.
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Please stop recreating this article in its present form. The consensus is that elementary/middle schools are not notable unless there is a clear claim to notability backed up by significant, independent, reliable sources. If you have such sources please add them otherwise a redirect is the best that can be done. TerriersFan (talk) 16:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
CfD nomination of Category:Fitzpatrick's War
[edit]I have nominated Category:Fitzpatrick's War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Bongomatic 17:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Aylesbury, Massachusetts
[edit]The article Aylesbury, Massachusetts has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Non-notable in-world town that appears (according to this article) in only one work.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Alternate History Discussion Board
[edit]A tag has been placed on Alternate History Discussion Board requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.
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- The Lloigor (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Abcdefghijkldejasf;sdf". The reason given for Abcdefghijkldejasf;sdf's block is: "Vandalism-only account".
Decline reason: Per Delanoy's comment, I'm not only declining this request, I'm blocking you directly. — Blueboy96 00:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
- How do I know Abcd... is not you? Because as far as I can tell, he is. J.delanoygabsadds 02:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
All right, I admit I was Abcd.... but I won't vandalize anymore! Also why does my sig turn up as " David Petreaus For President in 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"?User:The Lloigor (talk) 01:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
On My Sockpuppets
[edit]All those who you suspect to be my sockpuppets are my sockpuppets along with User:Haverhill, User:Hendyrk, User:Atkins566, User:HP Lovecraft The Second, User:Abdul Hadi Pasta, and User:Sega Communist. Look at all the accounts who keep vandalizing the article Alejandro Mario Yllanes, they're all my sockpuppets. User:The Lloigor (talk) 15:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
The article Lovecraft: Fear of the Unknown has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
The Dread Central review is the only secondary source that meaningfully discusses this film. I cannot find anything else.
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