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Your submission at Articles for creation: Hard Traveling (July 9)

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🌀Locomotive207-talk🌀 14:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Locomotive207 I suggest you please read WP:NFO #1: “The film is widely distributed and has received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics.” In this case, the reviews are from The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, and both newspapers are considered reliable sources. I suggest you please reconsider accepting the article. The Film Creator (talk) 21:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Locomotive207 I also recommend you see WP:RSPSS because they list both The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times as reliable sources to use in Wikipedia. The Film Creator (talk) 21:20, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hard Traveling (July 23)

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Nomination of Insight (2021 film) for deletion

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Citing sources

When citing sources, NEVER credit someone with the "author" parameter. Please keep in mind that Wikipedia uses the "first" and "last" parameters. Following this format gives off a professional impression and also improves consistency throughout the site. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Some Dude From North Carolina Thanks for the tip. I’ll keep that in mind in the future. The Film Creator (talk) 21:04, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Vendetta (upcoming film) for deletion

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Vendetta (upcoming film) moved to draftspace

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Flux Gourmet moved to draftspace

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Proposed deletion of Chestnut (film)

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Future film, fails WP:NFF as production wasn't notable. Should be drafted or deleted until release.

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@User:Donaldd23 I have moved the article to draft space and requested the redirect for speedy deletion. The Film Creator (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Detained (upcoming film)

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Once again User:Donaldd23, I have moved the article to draftspace and requested the redirect for speedy deletion. The Film Creator (talk) 19:28, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of CURS R

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Donaldd23 Out of curiosity, are you one of those editors who doesn’t know how to move an article to draftspace without leaving a redirect? It's okay if you don't know how because I don't know how either (but it would be a lot easier to do that rather than proposing the article for deletion in my opinion). Anyways, I've moved the article to draftspace and requested the redirect for speedy deletion. The Film Creator (talk) 10:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Tim Hampton

I have reverted your new article at this title. There are incoming redirects to that page that are not intended for the subject of your article. You can recover your work from the edit history and start a new article at Tim Hampton (producer) or another suitable disambiguator. I recommend using the WP:AFC process. MB 02:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

There is a Tim Hampton listed as producer in A Dry White Season and The NeverEnding Story III. If that is not a different producer by the same name, you can link those to your article also. MB 02:40, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of The Holdovers

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Some baklava for you!

Reviewed a few of your articles, continue with the Good work! Megan B.... It’s all coming to me till the end of time 09:22, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for creating Bitch Ass.

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Nomination of I'll Be Watching for deletion

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Thank you for creating My Fake Boyfriend.

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Needs a brief plot summary. I have added more categories - please check.

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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Draft:1242: Gateway to the West

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Night Night (film) moved to draftspace

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Ways to improve An Innocent Kiss

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Thanks for the article! Though, three of the refs are routine announcements that fail WP:GNG or WP:NFILM. The Dove Foundation is likely reliable (see WP:RS) and constitutes significant coverage, my WP:BEFORE search revealed few refs other than this one paragraph review which might be significant but could go either way. Addition info: I've read your previous comments on your user talk page, feel free to draftify this if you can't find many other refs, though if I missed any please add them here, many thanks!

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Ways to improve The Price We Pay (2022 film)

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I've tagged notability. The Starburst article is RS that is probably WP:SIGCOV, while The Hollywood Reporter is WP:RS, this article is a routine announcement IMHO with a plot summary and quotes, there isn't critical commentary that counts as a review to pass WP:NFILM nor as significant coverage (to pass WP:GNG). This states that Source: Hollywood Reporter- an identical routine announcement per WP:GNG it counts IMHO as: It is common for multiple newspapers or journals to publish the same story, sometimes with minor alterations or different headlines, but one story does not constitute multiple works. My WP:BEFORE search found websites that probably fail WP:RS, including 1, 2, which is For Film Fans By Film Fans- this doesn't meet WP:RS sadly. Therefore, currently, I don't believe this passes the notability guidelines; however, it's recently released, and there could potentially be more reviews in the future. If I missed any refs, please reply to my comment or add them to the article talk page. Many thanks!

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@User:Red-tailed hawk Understood. Thanks for moving the article. The Film Creator (talk) 21:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

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More 'Unrealized projects' pages

Hello, I noticed you've recently created an unrealized projects page for director William Friedkin, based on a table that already appeared in the regular article. There are a few more directors that have tables like these and I wanted to request that you create pages for Joe Dante, Mark Romanek, Peter Bogdanovich, Brian De Palma, and Michael Mann, the last three of which the 'Unrealized projects' appear in their 'Filmography' pages. I also noticed that you've missed a couple projects of Friedkin's listed, including The Bunker Hill Boys, Sea Trial, his Howard Hughes biopic, TV shows based on Killer Joe and To Live and Die in L.A., and the description of Blood and Money as being a film project when in fact he developed it for television. All the main refs I initially included for those projects when I added the main table on his regular page, which was prior to when the article by IndieWire was published, which didn't include every project, because not every reference had a link. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 00:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145: I must say I'm truly flattered. This is the first time someone has requested me to create an article on a topic I happen to fascinated with. Unfortunately, I must decline your request and please let me explain why:

You see, I was able to create the "unrealized projects" articles on Friedkin and Martin Scorsese because I was able to find multiple reliable sources that mention their list of unrealized projects as the main topic. Per WP:LISTN: "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list."

For example, in the case of Friedkin, I was able to find three reliable sources from IndieWire, MovieWeb and Collider and all three mention a list of Friedkin's unmade projects as a group or set and as the main topic.

Therefore, I would need multiple reliable sources that cover the list unrealized projects of the filmmakers you mentioned (e.g. Dante, De Palma) in order for the Wikipedia articles to pass WP:LISTN. If an "unrealized projects" article doesn't pass WP:LISTN, it will get redirected to the article of said filmmaker. That's why Michael Cimino's unrealized projects and Christopher Nolan's unrealized projects got redirected to Michael Cimino and Christopher Nolan respectively.

Like I said, I'm very flattered, but sadly I must decline unless you or me could provide those reliable sources. The Film Creator (talk) 10:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Understandable. Either way, thank you for your reply. But it's worth noting that most of the Unrealized projects tables are without a sourced comprehensive reference that covers all of the them. I never thought it had been a necessity since the majority just lists the reliable sources, either by way of book or article; J. J. Abrams, Darren Aronofsky, Michael Bay, Kathryn Bigelow, James Cameron, John Carpenter, Chris Columbus, Spike Lee, Shekhar Kapur, David Lynch, John McTiernan, George Miller, Sam Raimi... the list is endless. So while I understand your concern quite well, I don't see your point, as its been done before, and should not prevent more articles from being made. It's information, I believe, that should be shared with the public in a comprehensive way. I actually comprised the table of Friedkin's projects before the article had been published by IndieWire, MovieWeb and Collider. A comprehensive reference has only been made after the fact. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145: You’re welcome. If it helps, in the case of Michael Mann, I was able to find a reliable source from MovieWeb that covers a list of Mann’s unmade films. If there were more of these from different authors and other reliable sources, I would be more than happy to create the article. The Film Creator (talk) 14:13, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but that's precisely what I'm saying. For example, you created the page for Martin Scorsese, and had initially only included the projects that were compromised in those articles. Now, if you visit the page, dozens more have been added by myself or other editors. Does that mean they would be removed because they haven't been referenced elsewhere? Doesn't make sense to me. If you were to create one for Michael Mann, yes, use that MovieWeb source, but pick from the references that have already been found in the complete table on his Filmography. I also suggest doing some more research for the Orson Welles article you've recently created. He's had around 60 unmade films, no exaggeration. And you can find reliable sources for those, even by listening books as the source. I'd be happy to help you with that. I just don't see the point in creating an article specifically for a director's unmade or abandoned films if one is not going to at least TRY to list all of them. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 14:26, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145: I encourage that you continue adding more information on the Orson Welles article. Wikipedia is about collaboration so you’re more than welcome to add the omissions I failed to mention.

I understand what you mean by “Doesn't make sense to me.” What I’m trying to say is: as long as the article can pass WP:LISTN, it can be eligible for article status. The Film Creator (talk) 14:45, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

In the words of Columbo, "just one more thing"; I've added a list of Welles' projects not listed on the articles' talk page. If there'd be a way to spread the word, or if you could add those yourself, and I'll contribute some as well. Call me lazy, but I don't feel like adding ALL of them. I already compromised them for you. Either way, thanks for your time. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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Harold Ramis' unrealized projects

Interested?

Thought I'd pass along the link...

https://www.vulture.com/2012/01/the-lost-projects-of-harold-ramis.html

link... ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 22:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145: I’m also aware Bradford Evans, who wrote the Ramis article, also wrote similar articles on Judd Apatow, Adam McKay and Jonathan Dayton & Varleris Faris. The Film Creator (talk) 23:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Well then, work your magic on all four! Or do you need to find more sources? ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 23:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

@ZanderAbatraz1145: I could attempt to create those articles along with the Michael Mann article, provided that they would pass WP:LISTN. The Film Creator (talk) 23:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

I'd say pass on the Mann one if you do decide to. Despite the benefits of a singular page on the topic, its better to let people look toward the complete table on his filmography page should they want to know about his unmade films, rather than be misinformed by looking at an incomplete list.

ather than be misinformed by looking at an incomplete list, despite sing . ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 00:11, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

ZanderAlbatraz11 I will reveal this: I plan on creating “unrealized projects” articles on Akira Kurosawa (1, 2, 3 & 4), the Coen brothers (1, 2 & 3) and Neil Blomkamp (1 & 2). I know for sure those future articles will pass LISTN. The Film Creator (talk) 00:32, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm working on one for Tobe Hooper as we speak. The majority of the articles of this subject were created without the inclusion of a comprehensive source, but still passed LISTN anyways. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 00:36, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hello The Film Creator, are you going to edit me and put the link to the movie? Running on Empty (1988 film 190.237.46.243 (talk) 18:01, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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Akira Kurosawa's unrealized projects

How's this page you mentioned to be working on coming along? This is the one I was most excited about, as there are not many of thrm for foreign directors. I also have found a couple of additional sources that mention some of Kurosawa's projects probably not listed in the sources you mentioned. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 04:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145: Sadly, I’ve had to pass on the unrealized projects article on Kurosawa because I couldn’t find a source relating to each of his unmade projects. :( The Film Creator (talk) 10:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, well that's a shame. I had actually started to compile a couple, using the articles you mentioned, plus two others. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 14:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

ZanderAlbatraz1145 I would like to ask you something. Do you know if the-solute.com is a reliable source? I ask because I am contemplating on using that as a source along with a link from Screen Rant in order to create an “unrealized projects” page on Steven Soderbergh. The Film Creator (talk) 22:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@The Film Creator: If you cross-reference all of the titles listed on the-solute.com, and all of it checks out, then it's reliable. Looks like it was compiled by Soderbergh fans. Similarly, the website LynchNet was the primary source used for his Unrealized projects page, and since then there have been several articles written based off information presented on that page, written from sources such as Screen Rant, MovieWeb and IndieWire.

But once again, I don't think that an unmade films article for Soderbergh is really necessary. Articles on filmmakers or artists infamous for unproduced works, or will be someday, is preferable. Soderbergh's on... what... film #30 now?? I don't think he's struggling to get movies made. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

ZanderAlbatraz1145 Ah what the heck, I might as well create “unrealized projects” articles on Mann, Ramis, Apatow, McKay, Dayton & Faris and Soderbergh as well as on Oliver Stone, Antoine Fuqua and Terry Zwigoff The Film Creator (talk) 01:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

@The Film Creator: I got the Stone one covered. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 13:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

I'd prefer it if you didn't do the Mann one though, unless you're willing to use every reference I researched and found, and used in Michael Mann filmography#Unrealized projects ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 13:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Terry Zwigoff's are also already listed on Terry Zwigoff#Unrealized projects here. No need for a double. As long as they're listed somewhere already, it's good. Not every filmmaker should have an Unrealized projects article, otherwise I would have done ones on James Gray, Alexander Payne, Sylvain Chomet, Jack Clayton, and loads of others. For example, I'm compiling a set of references of unmade projects to list on the filmmaker Carl Franklin's page, but will not be making a separate article as I don't think it warrants one. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 22:47, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question about 'Michael Cimino's unrealized projects'

Would the following sources be suitable enough to re-create the 'Michael Cimino's unrealized projects' page? The first article, while written in French, does discuss five projects as a group of films that were not made. Plus, there are sections in these other two articles that break down and discuss some of his unrealized projects as a group. I included quotes in the last two to make it easier:

References

ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 20:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 If I you were you, I would address this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Guidance on unrealized projects. The Film Creator (talk) 20:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 Also, Michael Cimino's unrealized projects is currently a redirect to Michael Cimino. Therefore, if you want to move the page back to mainspace, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Cimino's unrealized projects and Wikipedia:Deletion review. The Film Creator (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Appreciate your comment, but I don't see how those can help me. If I decide to do it, I want to be sure that it won't be deleted and redirected back to the regular article for a SECOND time. Those three sources I mentioned should prevent that, no? ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 22:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 I suggest reading WP:REDIR before you move the redirect to mainspace just to be in the safe side. After all, the page on Cimino's unrealized projects got redirected to the page on Cimino due to this deletion discussion. The Film Creator (talk) 23:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 One other thing, if you decide to move Cimino's projects to mainspace and someone reverts your edit, contact whoever reverted on that person's talk page and discuss it with them in a civil manner. Plus, you can even start a new discussion about it at Talk:Michael Cimino. And finally, if you need help from experienced Wikipedians, contact them at Wikipedia:Help desk.  ;-) The Film Creator (talk) 23:18, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, you're a real pal. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 23:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Unrealized project question

Hey man, I have a question. I was considering adding the project "Untitled The Doors biopic" to the Martin Scorsese's unrealized projects page using the following references;

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However, since there is no specified date on either reference I have listed, what do you recommend I do? Should I make a rough estimation based on the two references—something I've done before, but seems doubly difficult in this case—or do I just not include it at all? ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 19:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 I would make a rough estimation. Based on the sources you gave me, I would say “sometime around the early 1990s,” for example. The Film Creator (talk) 19:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, any estimation would deem inaccurate, but, "the early 1990s" probably isn't either, as Stone's The Doors was first announced in September 1989. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 19:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, The Film Creator, to avoid the same result, I just redirected another article you started. I for one, would have kept it as it was, but as it was tagged for notability, I took it on me to to redirect to the director. Feel free to revert if you think the case is different.. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mushy Yank Thank you for letting me know. I’ve actually fixed the redirect that you created. The Film Creator (talk) 18:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Cannes coverage

Hey there, Film Creator. I came across your work because it was highlighted by Depths of Wikipedia - thanks for all you do in film coverage!

A few other Wikipedians and myself are at the Cannes Film Festival taking photos for Wikimedia as part of the WikiPortraits initiative (we've also covered Sundance and SXSW this year - you can find some of our work here). You may already know this, but there are many in-competition films at Cannes this year that currently lack articles but appear notable (or are soon-to-be notable). I just wanted to highlight these at potential opportunities if you're looking for any film articles to work on (and that we can help illustrate through photos at their premieres, Q&A sessions, etc.). We also have more photos to go with films at SXSW and Sundance. A lot of the Cannes films go on to be nominated for many awards, including the Oscars. Last year, Zone of Interest and Anatomy of a Fall both premiered at Cannes.

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@SuperHamster I must say I’m truly shocked about the X post and I’m humbly flattered. Thank you for sharing that and for informing me about WikiPortraits. I must also admit I am tempted to help you guys out at WikiPortraits. It would be a dream come true for me to attend a film festival, whether it’s Cannes, Sundance, TriBeca, etc.

Much appreciated :-) The Film Creator (talk) 18:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Excellent! If you don't mind, shoot me an email so we can keep in touch re: film festivals. We often have spare beds available when we hit up film festivals, which can go to dedicated Wikipedians as long as they can get themselves to the festival (e.g. we hosted a Wikidata editor at SXSW for all their data work on films). And hey, if you happen to live in easy traveling distance to Cannes, we have some open slots if you're able to make it.

If you do work on any Cannes-related film articles, please let me know so we can try to prioritize covering them! We can also let you know which films at Cannes are buzzy, getting good reception, etc. and are bound to do well beyond their premiere. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:50, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @SuperHamster. Is it too late to attend the Sundance Film Festival in January? The Film Creator (talk) 20:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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@Jon698 Thank you :-) The Film Creator (talk) 13:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

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In case I don't see ya: good afternoon, good evening and good night

Just wanted to let you know that I am departing from Wikipedia soon. Nothing to worry about; just want to focus more time on pursuing my creative endeavors; writing my own screenplays/stage plays, trying to make them not go 'Unrealized', ha ha. It was nice to have a helpful friend and I wish you the best of luck in any future article creations! I am leaving a lot of information in my sandbox so I implore you to please visit it and see if you want to add any of it or make articles out of it in the future, you're certainly welcome to it. In a way, it's MY unrealized projects I'm leaving behind, ha ha. I intend to publish three more as-yet unrevealed articles before I leave, as well as some info on Michelangelo Antonioni. Progress on these last few are moving like snails though, so we'll see when or if... ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 22:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't know if you're aware @ZanderAlbatraz1145 but I actually responded via a post I shared on X. Nevertheless, once I again I wish you well on your writing career. Thank you for being a friend. The Film Creator (talk) 02:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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@ZanderAlbatraz1145 Hello again. Remember when we talked about WP:LISTN? Per LISTN, “ One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources…” Do you have at least two reliable sources that discuss Guadagnino’s unrealized projects as a group or a set? The Film Creator (talk) 18:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

There are many articles in which Guadagnino himself answers to his decapitated projects, as well as a few recent articles discussing all of his 'prospective' projects. I think those alone are worth backing it up. But, most of the projects included for the article are already backed up with individual refs stating how each one was cancelled. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 Well I was able to find two sources from ThePlaylist.net and The Film Experience. Hopefully, they’re enough to pass WP:LISTN per my keep vote. The Film Creator (talk) 18:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I also had found this one and this one in which he discusses a couple of his 'dream projects'/past projects, as well as this one which discusses them as prospective, as in 'recent', unproduced or not. He also discussed some of his past, present and possible future dream projects in this 2018 NY profile. Like I said, plenty. Thanks for the help, sir! ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 18:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

It has also, while not 'official', has been a frequent topic of discussion in other forums such as this Reddit post in which they are broken down. Another reason why it is worthy of it's own page, as it's being discussed amongst other groups separate from Wikipedia. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 18:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

This article also breaks a couple of them down, Separate Rooms and Scarface, and on and on...

In this IndieWire article, he is "especially" mentioned as being a notable director "whole filmographies of projects they started developing before eventually abandoning." ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 18:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 Haha, well don’t tell me that. Explain that in the deletion discussion. Show those links so that way the page is eligible per WP:LISTN. I already posted my keep vote. The Film Creator (talk) 18:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I think you made the point clear enough there. If it's still not understood and people are being idiots, I'll port all of these links over there. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 19:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@ZanderAlbatraz1145 If it helps, I do recommend you please read WP:NOAFTDEL. I know what it’s like to create an article on Wikipedia only to have it deleted. I know it’s unfair but it happens. Hang in there. The Film Creator (talk) 19:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate the encouragement. But this is because of one editor, not because of many. I have had pages deleted before, but did nothing because it was done at the hand of many editors. There is one person at fault here in this instance. If you don't believe me, take a look into the history of it, check his edit history, check mine, and then you'll see what I'm talking about. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 19:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh this is straight up canvassing. Rusted AutoParts 19:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)