User talk:T.thomas47

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Hello, T.thomas47, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Response

Hi! When looking through the article for ASU Beebe, something you should look for would be as follows:

• Is there any incorrect information?
• Anything out of date?
• Is there anything major that is missing?

I would also look at articles for other universities such as Appalachian School of Law to see what they have. For example, they have a section on employment that the ASU Beebe article lacks. The article on Harvard University, which is a multi-campus university like ASU Beebe, has a section on the campuses that gives more information on each specific university.

With sourcing, you can use primary sources, however it would be good to try to find secondary sources - these can be anything from newspaper coverage to academic and scholarly sources that cover the university. Sourcing like this is also usable when it comes to adding information about the university's national ranking. I hope this all helps! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:09, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Notes

Hi, here are my notes:

• This needs to have in-line citations. Right now all of the material is unsourced, which poses an issue with verification - the reader needs to be able to tell where the material came from.

• I saw the note about the names of the college - this content is something that would be considered encyclopedic to Wikipedia since the different campuses are a major part of the university and this is content that's typically included in university articles.

• This is written in a casual, promotional tone. When writing, avoid using things like "we", "you", and "our" - per guidelines on these words you should use the third person in writing. The use of this word poses issues with promotion (since it looks like we're appealing to the reader) and also can come across as presuming something about the reader- namely that they're reading about the university in order to make a decision about attending, among other things. Someone could just be clicking on it for general information about the university.

• When writing, avoid trying to sell the topic to the reader. You want to avoid any subjective statements, whether they are promotional or are otherwise dependent on the reader having a specific situation or viewpoint. For example, the statement "The college is close to home to get basic general education requirements and affordable." poses several issues:

This presumes that the reader is someone who lives close to the university, that they are looking to receive basic general education requirements, and that they would see the college's tuition as affordable. It's entirely possible that someone could be the complete opposite of all of those things. For example, what if someone was just curious about the university or were looking for a proficiency certificate? Those are fairly specific, so they wouldn't really fall into the realm of general education. There's no real way to rephrase that sentence to make it fit Wikipedia's tone and style, so that sentence needs to be removed.

• The sentence "It is located in a town with total enrollment of 3.739." is a little confusing. Is this the average for how many locals attend? If so, where did this come from? It needs to be made a little more clear and easy to understand since this isn't a whole number and there's no information about what this number is in comparison to.

I'm going to include some sample re-writes of the sections and give notes in the draft. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:29, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

• OK, I saw where the 3.739 came from - you used a decimal instead of the comma typically used in the US. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
• I've done a couple of sample re-writes - you can style the other sections around that - I would also look at the articles I listed above in the other section, as those can give you an idea of how the article should be written as well. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:00, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Response

Hi! Can you give me the link to the source you need added and post it to my talk page? Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:06, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Citation

Hi! To cite the website you'd use the following content:

It should look like this: <ref>{{cite web |title=Main page |url=https://portal.arkansas.gov/ |publisher=Arkansas.gov |accessdate=10 November 2019}}</ref>

Now I will say that it's important to link to the specific page on the site that you want to use - linking to the main page won't really be super helpful. I did add a source that linked to the page for the main ASU @ Beebe page, but I wasn't sure if there was a more specific link you wanted to use. Also, be careful of writing in a casual tone - there's still some concerning points. I can help you with this if you like.

Also, sorry for the late reply! This week has been a little hectic! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:45, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Response 11/14

Hi! I did some work on your draft. I moved your notes to the sandbox talk page and also moved some content over from the live article, so it would be easier to see what the article would look like once moved live. I also rephrased some of the content. What I need you to do right now is find sourcing for the content that is unsourced. I've tagged those passages lacking sourcing. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:01, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Response 11/20

Hi! On my talk page you wrote this:

Hey, thanks for helping me, here in order the citations you said are unsourced and need citations: 1st-source 2,2nd-source 2, 3rd-source 2, 4th- source 2, 5th- source 2, 6th- source 1 and 7th-source 1. Also, the paragraph before my actual adding content to the article about why I chose that article, I can't find because my teacher needs to be able to see that in my sandbox for a grade, thanks.

I'm not entirely sure what you meant by the sources - are there sources that weren't linked?

For the one about why you chose the article, you can find it here: Talk:T.thomas47/sandbox. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 10:24, 20 November 2019 (UTC)