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Difference between Heer or Aheer Jats and Ahir Community

Deear User,

You have made some unauthentic statements regarding Heer Clan which shows that you need some more authentic clarification regarding this clan. So here I would like to clear you some of the facts which will make you well aware with the difference between Aheer Jats and Ahir Caste/Community. First of all I would like to let you know that both are different ethnical groups as well as origins however coincidntly their pronunciation almost appears to be the same. Sir Denzil Ibbetson, in his book ‘Punjab Castes’ (published in 1883, on page number 122) has described about Heer or Aheer Jats. He has written them as Her and Aher. He has clearly written that this Aheer word is originated from Heer Jats. Further he has written that these Aheers retained themselves as Aheer Jats as they originate from Heer jats. In the very next line he has clearly mentioned that these Aheer Jats are different from Ahir Caste/Community which has its origin from a Sanskrit word ‘Abhira’. He has mentioned Heers as one of the Purest and oldest Jat clan along with Maan and Bhullars. In this same book (on page 100 & 119) origin of Heers is mentioned fron Jatas (Matted Hairs) of Mahadeo. On the other hand Ahir Community is also mentioned in this book at various pages which clearly indicate that Aheer Jats and Ahir Community both are two different ethnical groups.

Similarly H. A. Rose is his book ‘A glossary of the tribes and castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province’ (on page 331) has mentioned about the Heer/Aheer Jats. He has also spelled them as Her/Aher as he has taken reference from Sir Denzil Ibbestson book ‘Punjab Caste’. But in this book (on page 334) he has clarified that Her and Heer is the same clan. On the other hand in his book (on Page 4) he has also mentioned about Ahir Community and its origin in detail. Further (on page 5) he has also given 55 different Ahir clans from which one could easily come to know that Heer is not one among them. 'Census Of India 1911 Volume Xiv Punjab Part 2' by Pandit Narikishan Kaul has also described about Heer Jats and Ahir community differently. (To know more about the difference between Heer Jats and Ahir Community kindly go through the page 56 & 57 of ‘Ambala District Gazetteer, 1923-24’[1])

By going in detail of these books one could easily conclude that Heer Jats and Ahir Community are two distinct ethnical groups. Aheer Jats belongs to Heer Jats although coincidently they share their name with Ahir community because of almost same pronunciation. Hope it helps you to make more clear about these two distinct ethnical groups. Thanks. Jatt itehas (talk) 02:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have provided this link:

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=QQwJAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA1-PA101&dq=heer+jat+tribes&hl=en&ei=omoDTcPSD8-HrAehhfyQDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=10&ved=0CFgQ6wEwCQ#v=onepage&q=heer&f=false

Thanks for updating the link. First off all, again this is clear from this book that there are several clans named as Aheer/Ahir and each of this has different origins. One relates its origin from Sanskrit word ‘Abhira’ which means fearless. Another relates its origin from the combination of two different Sanskrit words ‘Ahi’ (means Snake) + ‘Heer’ (means Love or signifying affection) and the combination of these used as Aheer/Ahir which means ‘The snake Lover’. Another consider its origin from an unknown person named Heer.

Similarly there is another Aheer clan which originated from Heer Jats. This Heer or Aheer is one of the same clan with the only difference of prefix ‘A’. Another typical example of this kind among Jat clans is Sihag which is also known as ‘Asihag’. About these Aheer Jats, Sir Denzil Ibbetson in his book ‘Punjab Castes’ (published in 1883) has mentioned that “Aheer is merely another way of spelling ‘Heer’”. In this same book the origin of Heer Jats is given under various headings (For more detail please refer page 119 & 122). Please note that on these pages the writer has Specifically mentioned that:

“Heer is one among the three original Jat tribes which are originated from the 'Matted Hair' (Jatas) of Mahadeo (Lord Shiva) and Aheer is merely another way of spelling Heer. of course these Aheer retained themselves as Aheer Jats not as Aheer/Ahir by caste”.

From all these we can easily conclude that there are several clans named as Aheer/Ahir with almost same pronunciation as well as spellings but their origin is different so they form different ethnical groups. Hope this would make you clearer. Thank You. Jatt itehas (talk) 19:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have written "I have been reading books of historians and i found that ahir written as aheer heer or ahir or aheeran are one and same thing. when i read your discussion page i found lot of misleading information :-

aheer or ahir are same thing.This community now uses "Yadav" as their last name.

Below link is from a book written by british historians where they have mention Ahirs of india as AHEERS:-

http://books.google.com/books?id=QQwJAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA1-PA36&dq=census+of+india+aheer&hl=en&ei=jZwhTfHJFoLGlQeYsdiDDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=census%20of%20india%20aheer&f=false

books name:-Various census of India

--page 36

2 Let me also tell you that jatland.com website is not wikipedia it a website were people from "hindu" jat community talk and discuss about their history from which ever source they get it from elder people of villages or from any book in a nutshell info from website jatland.com cant be true for sure.Similary refrences from historians like ,Professor B.S Dhillon and Ram Swarup Joon both are jats, i i even doubt what ever they have written about their community is 100% correct.

3 Aheer’ is a Muslim Rajput tribe of punjab as per discussion page of heer (clans) so the fact is below.

Ahirs are furter divided into 3 groups one is Yaduvanshi Ahirs

Yaduvanshi Ahirs who were converted as Muslims are Known as Rangar or Muslim Rajputs

http://books.google.com/books?id=9DU5AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA181&dq=muslim++rangars&hl=en&ei=P20ITaKjB4P6lwezgvTxAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCoQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=muslim%20%20rangars&f=false, http://books.google.com/books?id=qCAAAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA2-PA61&dq=ahir+rulers&hl=en&ei=XWkITcfKFsK88gahhqB0&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=ahir&f=false, Cyclopædia of India and of eastern and southern Asia, commercial ..., Volume 2 edited by Edward Balfour--page 85.

4 {{{{ There are also Hindu and Sikh clan of Aheers among Gurjar, Chamars and Jats of Punjab, India.

Aheer is a huge community which includes Jats, Rajputs, Gujjar and Chamars }}} as per some one mentioned on discussion page of {{{heer clans}} is incorrect.instead of chamars it's originally ahirs,Just to divert the attention or to mislead others that ahirs and aheers are not same on discussion page some has mentions chamars......

The persion who has written this is "Jatt itehas" and has taken refrences from non- nutral websites like jatland.com {or hatred towrds ahirs } i mean since when wikipedia has started taking refrences from bias websites where one community can write what ever about their caste.

THE WORD "CHAMAR" NEVER USED AHEER AS THEIR LAST NAME"

this shows the mentality of "Jatt itehas" as they have changed " AHIR " TO "CHAMAR", just to mislead and confuse other nutral hostorans of wiki.Because ahirs and jats are not in good terms.So they have not only removed "ahir but changed into "CHAMAR" which are considered a very low caste.

5 According to historian J.N. Singh ,Yadavs "ancient ahirs or aheers of punjab became Jats".

He has categorily mentioned chapter 10 as "Yadav (ahirs} who became Jats" THAT INCLUDES "SIDDHU" AHEER AND HEER CLAN ETC.

http://books.google.com/books?ei=iAETTZucNYO0lQeR7IzaAg&ct=result&id=QJNHAAAAMAAJ&dq=yadavs+who+became+jats&q=became+jats

BOOKS NAME ---Yadavas through the ages, from ancient period to date, Volume 2--page 97

THIS IS THE PROOF THAT HEER IS AHEER AND AHEER IS NONE OTHER THAT AHIR ,,BUT ANOTHER FACT IS THAT AHIR'S OF PUNJAB HAVE CONVERTED THEM SELVES AS JATS.

Difference between Aheer Jats and Ahir Rajputs

Kindly go through the following pages, you will come to know that AHEER Jats are related with HEER jats. Aheer is merely another way of spelling Heer and they retained themselves as Aheer Jats not Aheer/Ahir by cast. This has been clearly clarified by Sir Denzil Ibbetson in his book Punjab Castes (Page 122):

http://www.archive.org/stream/panjabcastes00ibbe#page/122/mode/2up

Another famous book ‘Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province’ by H.A. Rose also talked about Heer/Aheer under the same heading.

http://www.archive.org/stream/glossaryoftribes03rose#page/n689/mode/2up

Further regarding relation as well as difference between Heer Jats and Ahir community, please go through the Ram Swaroop Joon’s book ‘The History of Jats’. This was the first book published on the History of Jats and hence considered as benchmark by all the modern days Jat Historians. In this book the author has talked about the origin of Heer Jats and Ahir community and for this he has taken the reference of ‘Vishnu Puran’ (One of the oldest Vedas of Hindus). According to this both Heer Jats and Ahir community is the descendant of Yadu but from two separate sons (Hai and Ahai). Heer Jats are the descendant of ‘Hai’ whereas ‘Ahai’ founded the Ahir community. Heers are considered as 'Pure Jats' whereas Ahir community is considered as one among the 36 royal Rajput clans (as by James Todd). This is why Aheer Jats and Aheer rajputs are found in the various regions of Punjab. Here it is to be noted that Aheer jats belongs to Heer jats as Aheer is merely another way of spelling Heer (Sir Denzil Ibbetson) and Aheer Rajput belongs to Ahir community.

http://books.google.com/books?ei=5uQhTfj9Ic3rrQeC1fiJDA&ct=result&id=fe88AAAAMAAJ&dq=history+of+jats&q=ahir

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Greetings, you have a bad habit of making massive edits, and providing no justification whatsoever. For example, at Yadav I explicitly provided an explanation every step of the way as I cut out inapplicable material. You come back in and restore it all with zero explanation. Please justify your edits, or there's no way they can remain.

Further, again please remember to use RefTag to format your footnotes; it's a bad sign that I can tell just by looking at an article that you've been editing, since you do this odd thing where you cite a gBooks link, then separately cite a title. That doubles footnotes for no good reason, and it takes less time to just format it perfectly with RefTag.

Your enthusiasm is great, and you have pulled some interesting sources from gBooks, but it makes it very hard to collaborate with you, or even understand what you want, if you don't use Edit Summary, and/or the Talk page. Your comments at Talk:Yaduvanshi Ahirs were most helpful, so communication like that will make this whole process smoother. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again please use RefTag for gBooks links

Sumit, you've added a bunch of footnotes to Yaduvanshi Ahirs, but they're just bare gBooks URLs. Please take just a few seconds each to convert them to full cites using RefTag: http://reftag.appspot.com . If you don't do it, it's forcing other editors to use their time fixing your work. It's really quick and easy, so please just do it as you go along. MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:33, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problems with Ahirwada

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Help with footnoting on Yaduvanshi Ahirs?

Greetings, next time you're working on Yaduvanshi Ahirs can you lend a hand with converting some of the bare URLs into proper citations? Again, the GoogleBooks cites can be instantly converted to full citations using RefTag (http://reftag.appspot.com), so if you can zap those in as you run across them that'd help in the cleanup. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

June 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Yadav. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:08, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yadavs were true kshatriya warriors only a branch of it called Gwalvanshi ahirs who also have started used Yadav from 19 century are shudras so either mention that or defaming a community by labelling it as shudras in the starting of the article will hurt feelings of Yaduvanshi ahirs and other yadavas.Sumitkachroo (talk) 07:02, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion needs to be on the article's Talk page, not here, so that everyone involved can see it and take part - and please provide reliable sources to support your claims, as that is what Wikipedia is built on, not on hurt feelings. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:39, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Yadav, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please discuss it on the article Talk page and get a consensus before you remove sourced content, as you have been asked. Edit-warring without discussion will get you blocked if you continue. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:06, 17 June 2011 (UTC) There is one crusader named matthew vanitas he is hell bent to prove that yadavs are shudras and no body else, even tried talk page he is hell bent on it.[reply]

There is a cited source in the article supporting the Shudra claim, and so if you wish to contest it or to add further claims, you must provide an alternative source on the Talk page to back up your assertions - a number of editors have been asking for reliable sources for contested claims on several related articles for some time, but none has yet been forthcoming. We cannot change an article on just your say-so, and you will not achieve what you want by attacking other editors, so please take this as a further warning that failure to assume good faith can also get you blocked from editing -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:50, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning; the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Yadav, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. - Sitush (talk) 08:12, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 2011

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Proposed deletion of Thakran

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Proposed deletion of Nandvanshi

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This is particularly what we call WP:OR as we don't have sources to either expand it or keep it. Seems to be caste promotion

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"Risal Singh Ahir" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Mitra Sen Ahir" listed at Redirects for discussion

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